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MountainView Apr 26, 2021 4:00 PM

99 Bill Leathem Dr | Warehouse + Sortation Facility | Proposed
 
I'm not sure if this has been posted anywhere yet, but there is a proposal to re-zone the sites at 2 Leikin, 20 Leikin, and 99 Bill Leathem to allow a warehouse and truck terminal as uses.

Looks like someone is proposing to construct a warehouse here. The land has been vacant for a long time. The area has good access to Fallowfield which leads to the 416 relatively quickly, and Prince of Wales to go south to Bankfield for potential access to the 416 there.

Ottawa Dev App page

https://i.imgur.com/RTtCvyK.png

daud Apr 27, 2021 5:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MountainView (Post 9261002)
I'm not sure if this has been posted anywhere yet, but there is a proposal to re-zone the sites at 2 Leikin, 20 Leikin, and 99 Bill Leathem to allow a warehouse and truck terminal as uses.

Looks like someone is proposing to construct a warehouse here. The land has been vacant for a long time. The area has good access to Fallowfield which leads to the 416 relatively quickly, and Prince of Wales to go south to Bankfield for potential access to the 416 there.

Ottawa Dev App page

https://i.imgur.com/RTtCvyK.png

I've seen the odd comment that it might be a UPS facility? Have you heard anything?

Marshsparrow Apr 27, 2021 7:37 PM

I have so enjoyed reading the many comments in news articles on this story. The Barrhaven crowd have very short memories considering they paved over everything for their suburban wasteland which laid traffic carnage on every route to get there. Same crowd protests airplane traffic - again, the airport was there first. Karma - love it - build it!

MountainView Apr 28, 2021 1:33 PM

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Originally Posted by daud (Post 9262359)
I've seen the odd comment that it might be a UPS facility? Have you heard anything?

I haven't heard anything regarding this, but I could see that working there. They have a smaller depot in Kanata, so building a similar sized one on this plot of land would work well.

MountainView Apr 28, 2021 1:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daud (Post 9262359)
I've seen the odd comment that it might be a UPS facility? Have you heard anything?

Whatever it may be, it's known that it will take up the entire plot of land, and that the City will not have to construct the proposed roads and servicing that was initially agreed to by the former city of Nepean in 1996.

The lands were sold to Zena-Kinder Holdings for $1 and the City was released from its financial liability of approx. 7-10 million dollars for having to potentially construct the roads and servicing.

FINANCE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE report - South Merivale Business Park

rocketphish May 4, 2021 11:34 AM

Warehouse application for south-end business park drives fears over truck traffic

Jon Willing, Ottawa Citizen
Publishing date: May 04, 2021 • 1 hour ago • 4 minute read


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A Barrhaven-area community is fighting a proposal to allow a warehouse and truck terminal in a business park, with residents fearing negative impacts from trucks rumbling past their riverside homes.

Meanwhile, the property owner’s development team suggests demand for warehouse space will increase thanks to the growth in online retailing.

The planning application illustrates the city’s challenge in pursuing economic development opportunities reflecting the realities of the market while managing the expectations of residents who live near a project site.

The property owned by Zena-Kinder Holdings Ltd. extends west from Leikin Drive and Merivale Road to Longfields Drive, northwest of the RCMP headquarters.

The 30.5-hectare site is zoned for light industry, and while an office is allowed, the owner needs an approved amendment to add a warehouse and truck transport terminal as acceptable land uses. A planning rationale filed with the application says the added uses would not cause environmental, public health and safety concerns.

Residents of nearby Rideau Glen don’t buy it.

“People are concerned about the overall impact of the quality of life in this community,” Barbara Motzney said, explaining that residents are worried about noise, pollution, safety and security with more trucks travelling on local roads near the development property in the South Merivale Business Park.

“It not only doesn’t fulfill the vision for the business park, it’s a long way away from that vision,” Motzney said.

Barry King said he has lived in the Rideau Glen community since the early 1970s. Residents have expected light industrial uses in the business park, not developments that would generate transport truck traffic, King said.

“The general feel is it’s not an appropriate location for a transport truck depot,” King said.

According to the planning rationale produced by Zena-Kinder’s consultant Novatech, the property is “well situated in a location for goods movement, including warehouse and truck transport terminal uses, given their proximity to major roadways including Merivale Road, Woodroffe Avenue, Fallowfield Road, Strandherd Drive, Prince of Wales, and the Vimy Memorial Bridge connection to Earl Armstrong and the Riverside South Community.”

The application only offers a rough description of what could be built on the site and the impacts to the surrounding road network. A preliminary concept plan shows two industrial buildings and one office building.

A transportation study filed with the application forecasts 210 industrial-related vehicle trips in the morning peak hour and 310 trips in the afternoon peak hour. Of those 520 trips, 55 are attributed to “heavy vehicles” and the rest are attributed to “light vehicles.”

On top of the industrial traffic, the office portion of the development would generate 518 morning peak-hour trips and 544 afternoon peak-hour trips, according to the transportation study.

Full build-out is expected to happen over five years to 2026.

The application notes that Ottawa’s official plan allows warehousing and distribution activities in an urban employment area like the business park.

“The proposed warehouse and truck transport terminal uses will fulfill a vital and growing need in the urban economy,” the planning rationale says.

“They will enhance the underlying value of the parcels in the business park. Recent experience and trends clearly demonstrate that warehouse, truck transportation and distribution of goods in general is going to continue to grow with online shopping while the demand for ‘bricks and mortar’ stores is likely to decline somewhat. Warehouse and truck transport terminals are not noxious or heavy industrial uses that will impact on other potential uses that may be developed on the few remaining parcels.”

Vague information about the project is annoying residents in Rideau Glen. They haven’t been told what kind of company would be using the warehouse.

The project manager listed as the applicant for the zoning amendment couldn’t be reached for comment on Monday.

“We shouldn’t have to glue together facts made by assumptions made in an annex of an application,” Motzney said.

“We need to have some confidence in this and not get the impression that it will get railroaded through,” King said.

Gloucester-South Nepean Coun. Carol Anne Meehan is aiming to hold an information session about the planning application on May 13. The application is projected to be in front of council’s planning committee by the end of the month.

“I am quite concerned about it,” Meehan said.

Meehan said she’s worried the roads can’t handle an increase in traffic volumes. “Our infrastructure is woefully lacking,” she said.

While there are few details about the the developer’s plans, Meehan said she’s been told the property is an attractive location for a warehouse because of its proximity to the Ottawa International Airport and an Amazon distribution centre on the other side of Barrhaven.

Meehan said she appreciates the city wants to create more jobs in an underdeveloped business park, “but we have to weigh it.”

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Marshsparrow May 4, 2021 12:25 PM

"...residents fearing negative impacts from trucks rumbling past their riverside homes..." :titanic:

Wasn't this once the main route into Ottawa? These folks need a reality check... stop buying stuff online - no more warehouses!

TransitZilla May 4, 2021 12:58 PM

https://smartcdn.prod.postmedia.digi...trip=all&w=750

I see a couple of sites in this picture that would be more appropriate for the south-end police campus:
  1. The lot just north of Leikin/Bill Leathem
  2. The block surrounded by Merivale, Leikin and Beckstead.

Williamoforange May 4, 2021 1:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bradnixon (Post 9269042)
https://smartcdn.prod.postmedia.digi...trip=all&w=750

I see a couple of sites in this picture that would be more appropriate for the south-end police campus:
  1. The lot just north of Leikin/Bill Leathem
  2. The block surrounded by Merivale, Leikin and Beckstead.

Maybe if there was a bridge at the end of Merivale but other then that no it's not really better for the intended purpose of the campus and while you may disagree with that purpose you can't just continue to ignore it.

ars May 4, 2021 1:33 PM

The real question is if this increase in truck traffic would finally compel the city to expand Prince of Wales to multiple lanes in each direction. That road has been a traffic bottleneck, especially during peak traffic hours, for far too long.

rocketphish May 27, 2021 9:19 PM

Planning committee supports Barrhaven-area warehouse proposal without knowing what will be built
Zena-Kinder Holdings Ltd. has a 30.5-hectare site zoned for light industry at Leikin Drive and Bill Leathem Drive

Jon Willing, Ottawa Citizen
Publishing date: May 27, 2021 • 3 minutes ago • 3 minute read


They didn’t know what products would be transported or the number of buildings eyed for the site, but all members of the city’s planning committee on Thursday endorsed a proposal calling for a warehouse and truck depot in a Barrhaven-area business park despite hearing concerns from multiple neighbourhoods.

Zena-Kinder Holdings Ltd. has a 30.5-hectare site zoned for light industry at Leikin Drive and Bill Leathem Drive, which is in the South Nepean Business Park near the RCMP headquarters.

The company wants to amend the zoning to add a warehouse and truck depot as permitted uses, but no one outside the company knows what will be built at the site. Only when a site plan application is filed at city hall will the community understand what exactly the operations will look like.

The development application has drawn attacks from neighbourhoods near the business park, with concerned residents in the wards of Gloucester-South Nepean and Knoxdale-Merivale mainly worried about the number of trucks using the warehouse.

The committee heard that 400 daily truck trips could be generated by the proposed development in a “worst-case scenario,” which is based on a warehouse serving the e-commerce sector.

Business advocates supported the warehouse application.

Barrhaven BIA chair Jason MacDonald expressed enthusiasm for the proposal, telling councillors, “all I’m hearing is support for this” in his circles.

Even a rep from the Carp Road Corridor BIA, located across the city, gave a brief presentation in support of the development application. The city needs to be “responsive to changes” in economic development trends, executive director Roddy Bolivar said.

Lise Sarazin, executive director of the Regroupement des gens d’affaires, which advocates for francophone businesses in Ottawa-Gatineau, said the city needed to accept that the growth of online shopping would drive warehouse developments.

Residents said they were afraid truck traffic will ruin people’s quality of life.

The development would “defy all of the principles of responsible growth” and the main two-lane roads around the property would be overwhelmed, according to Karen Meades, who lives in the Rideau Glen community.

Three neighbourhood associations had representatives voice opposition to the development application.

Complicating the debate was the mystery around what would be built on the site and the identity of the user. The property owner doesn’t have to offer that information in a zoning application.

It seemed the project team also wasn’t sure what would ultimately be built on the property.

A preliminary concept plan in the development documents showed two industrial buildings and an office building, but the committee heard there might be several smaller warehouses or something different.

Greg Winters, the project’s planning consultant who works for Novatech, told the committee there shouldn’t be policy debate about the application since the policies for the business park are already in place, thanks to the former city of Nepean and regional municipality. A warehouse is allowed in the property’s zoning today but not as a primary use, Winters explained.

The city’s planning department, which supports the zoning amendment, doesn’t believe there would be notable truck-traffic impacts with a warehouse moving from an ancillary use on the property to a primary use.

The development project team appealed to the city’s desire to increase economic development.

“It’s going to allow Ottawa to grow as a new city,” Winters said of the proposed warehouse, promoting the diverse employment opportunities a warehouse would create.

Still, not knowing what will be built befuddled Coun. Keith Egli, whose Knoxdale-Merivale ward is near the site.

“All we know is what could and might happen, but we don’t know what will happen,” Egli said.

Egli didn’t vote because he doesn’t sit on the planning committee.

Gloucester-South Nepean Coun. Carol Anne Meehan, whose ward includes the site, told colleagues to consider the concerns voiced by residents.

“Don’t give them a reason to go away more cynical,” said Meehan, who doesn’t sit on the planning committee.

“Give them a reason to be optimistic today.”

The committee’s unanimous vote in favour of the application immediately followed.

Council will vote on June 9.

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rocketphish Jun 9, 2021 8:55 PM

Council approves new warehouse near Barrhaven and creation of residential vacancy tax
Residents who live near the development site have been vocal in their opposition, fearing an increase in heavy trucks rumbling past their neighbourhoods.

Jon Willing, Ottawa Citizen
Publishing date: Jun 09, 2021 • 54 minutes ago • 3 minute read


Gloucester-South Nepean Coun. Carol Anne Meehan on Wednesday couldn’t convince enough of her colleagues to reject a controversial warehouse and truck depot application in her ward.

Meehan made one last attempt to block the rezoning application by Zena-Kinder Holdings Ltd. for a 30.5-hectare site at Leikin Drive and Bill Leathem Drive, in the South Nepean Business Park near the RCMP headquarters.

While Meehan called on the planning committee to listen to the concerns of residents rather than bending to requests from the development industry, 15 other council members agreed with the recommendation from the committee and staff to approve the rezoning.

Coun. Jeff Leiper voted in favour of the application at planning committee, but in Wednesday’s decision at council he flipped his vote, saying he had to be “truer to what I believe.”

Residents who live near the development site have been vocal in their opposition, fearing an increase in heavy trucks rumbling past their neighbourhoods. The planning committee heard that 400 daily truck trips could be generated by the development if the warehouse serves the e-commerce sector.

The city doesn’t know who would be running the warehouse or truck depot.

Council received a petition with 3,126 names of people asking for the city to reject the rezoning application.

“Show our residents that their opinion and their quality of life means something,” Meehan told council.

Coun. Diane Deans agreed with Meehan that a warehouse and truck depot should be near one of the 400-series highways to avoid “dramatic conflicts” caused by tractor trailers.

The application is an example of the growing trend of companies looking for warehouse sites in Ottawa. The most high-profile examples are the two Amazon facilities in the city.

After the council meeting, Mayor Jim Watson said the rezoning application is a signal that Ottawa’s economy has “changed dramatically” and that there’s a need for facilities with the upsurge in e-commerce.

Voting against the rezoning application in the 15-9 decision were Meehan, Leiper, Deans, Keith Egli, Catherine McKenney, Theresa Kavanagh, Shawn Menard, Mathieu Fleury and Rawlson King.


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rocketphish Jun 16, 2021 11:47 AM

99 Bill Leathem Dr | Warehouse + Sortation Facility | Proposed
 
Councillor feels misled by plans for new Barrhaven warehouse
Carol Anne Meehan 'caught off guard' by warehouse plan with 100 truck bays

Kate Porter · CBC News
Posted: Jun 16, 2021 4:00 AM ET | Last Updated: 4 hours ago


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One Ottawa city councillor is annoyed the City of Ottawa has been asked to approve a large e-commerce warehouse with 100 truck bays in Barrhaven after she was told no solid plan actually existed.

Carol Anne Meehan, who represents the ward of Gloucester-South Nepean had fought giving Zena-Kinder Holdings Limited the ability to build a truck terminal and warehouse in the South Merivale Business Park, arguing such warehouses — including the truck traffic — should be located near 400-series highways, not residential areas.

On two occasions in May, consultants told meeting attendants there were no imminent plans or tenants for the site. Then last week, city council voted in favour of rezoning the land despite knowing little about what could be built, as well as receiving a petition with 3,126 signatures that opposed the rezoning.

Meehan said she was "caught off guard" when she later learned an application had arrived on June 3 with a plan for the site using the same Novatech consultant who had spoken at those May meetings.

"I'm confused, a little bit annoyed, and shocked," she said, worried about potential truck traffic in the area of Prince of Wales Drive and Merivale Road.

"They wanted to keep us in the dark as long as possible on everything. I think that's not fair to the planning process, it's not fair to the communities that are going to be affected by whatever comes."

Meehan says consultants should have been upfront with decision makers about the forthcoming proposal, but Novatech consultant Greg Winters argues the situation is not that simple.

Winters said his firm was hired by two different clients for two different tasks: Zena-Kinder Holdings Limited to rezone the property to help market it, and Medusa LP to apply for the 100-truck distribution centre.

He said he didn't know details about the two companies' negotiations for redeveloping the site when he appeared before planning committee.

As it turns out, the new warehouse proposal didn't even need the new rezoning approval. It has a small office that makes the warehouse a secondary rather than primary use, which has been allowed for years.

The new plan calls for an office that spans almost 17,000 square feet, along with a 262,000-square-foot warehouse — about a quarter the size of the Amazon distribution centre on Boundary Road — to deal with orders for a variety of e-commerce retailers.

The land would also include almost 500 parking spots for vehicles and 313 for tractor trailers, in addition to the 100 loading bays.

In a statement, the City of Ottawa's Don Herweyer said staff notified area councillors of the new application on June 4.

Typically, site plan applications are simply approved by city staff, but Meehan intends to take the rare step of removing their delegated authority so the file instead goes before planning committee for another debate and decision.

"The community is demanding that we have more control. It's the only tool that I have at this point to have some control over what's going forward," said Meehan.

In the meantime, she and Knoxdale-Merivale Coun. Keith Egli are organizing another public meeting for residents.

Egli says residents will have questions about the optics and timing of the new warehouse application. He hopes they can now get answers from the consultants about the impact of a distribution centre.

"It would have been nice to get it earlier, but we can have that discussion now," Egli said.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottaw...plan-1.6066502

rocketphish Jun 16, 2021 12:14 PM

Medusa LP is proposing the development of a Sortation Facility on the properties at 99 Bill Leathem Drive, 2 Leikin Drive and 20 Leikin Drive. The Project will be a large footprint prestige office and light industrial building where a third-party logistics provider quickly processes and packages customer orders that originate from a variety of sources for e-commerce retailers and external customers.

The building itself is constructed on a single level with a total floor area of 25,896m2 and a height of approximately 14m. The office area is projected out from the main body of the building to provide increased access to daylight at an inviting human scale.

The project is oriented with the prestige office space accessible both by passenger vehicles, and by pedestrians, from the traffic circle at Bill Leathem Drive and Longfields Drive. Pedestrian connectivity, accessibility and safety are important aspects of the site design with raised crosswalks linking the parking area to wide on-site walkways. Bike storage is provided at a convenient location near the main entrance. Pedestrian, bicycle and passenger vehicle circulation is kept separate from truck traffic to increase safety for all on site.

Development application:
https://devapps.ottawa.ca/en/applica...1-0079/details

Siteplan:

https://i.imgur.com/vwGl1P3.png

https://i.imgur.com/jIV2agg.png


Renderings:

https://i.imgur.com/1kIWuHT.png

https://i.imgur.com/ZULXLPa.png

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Djeffery Jun 17, 2021 1:25 AM

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Originally Posted by MountainView (Post 9263181)
I haven't heard anything regarding this, but I could see that working there. They have a smaller depot in Kanata, so building a similar sized one on this plot of land would work well.

I can't see any of the large courier companies building something like that in Ottawa. This is a sort hub type of place, not a delivery depot, and UPS has a pretty large hub in Montreal. Purolator is building a new facility in the near future but it's certainly not something like this, and it's supposed to be out in Kanata.

This has Amazon written all over it to me. They have been opening a lot of their own delivery depots (2 are opening in London this year a couple blocks apart, each of which are double the size of the local Purolator or UPS depots), as well as Kitchener, Cambridge and around Toronto, and I wouldn't be shocked if this was a sort hub to service those from the 2 Ottawa distribution centres. Possibly handle Ottawa region deliveries as well. Weird location for that though.

rocketphish Jun 17, 2021 2:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Djeffery (Post 9313980)
This has Amazon written all over it to me.

Sure does. This one is also being built by Broccolini, and the proponents are hiding behind the codename "Medusa" this time. Very similar to Project Python.

https://opencorporates.com/companies/ca/12805537

MountainView Jun 17, 2021 2:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Djeffery (Post 9313980)
I can't see any of the large courier companies building something like that in Ottawa. This is a sort hub type of place, not a delivery depot, and UPS has a pretty large hub in Montreal. Purolator is building a new facility in the near future but it's certainly not something like this, and it's supposed to be out in Kanata.

This has Amazon written all over it to me. They have been opening a lot of their own delivery depots (2 are opening in London this year a couple blocks apart, each of which are double the size of the local Purolator or UPS depots), as well as Kitchener, Cambridge and around Toronto, and I wouldn't be shocked if this was a sort hub to service those from the 2 Ottawa distribution centres. Possibly handle Ottawa region deliveries as well. Weird location for that though.

Yes I agree. I had written that comment before the official site plan was released and before we knew it would be a larger sortation facility. Definitely looks Amazon-esque!

Catenary Jun 17, 2021 5:10 PM

These facilities are extremely generic and I don't see anything here that screams Amazon, but I wouldn't rule it out. Crossdocks are used very widely across the LTL industry, and there are piles of them in Toronto's suburbs.

Amazon has a couple of different types of warehouse that aren't fulfillment centres. Delivery stations are where the last mile trips originate from, but this isn't for that it would seem. Sortation centres are where packages from warehouses are brought in, sorted to destinations and shipped out. There is already one of these south of Montreal, YUL5. It has 25-30 docks, so it's significantly smaller than this proposal.

The location of this is odd, unless you consider the airport. It's not near a highway, but if some of the cargo goes to/from the airport it would be justified.

There are some retailers who have crossdock style distribution centres, especially those that move palletized goods or don't have large inventory in warehouse. Costco just built a massive location on the east side of Montreal, so this seems unlikely for them. There are others though, it could really be anything.

Djeffery Jun 17, 2021 9:01 PM

^^All good points. What leads me towards Amazon is the description upthread of x amount of large trucks at certain times a day and of small vehicles at certain times a day. Sounds exactly like a courier depot only this one is huge. This is almost like a courier depot I'm familiar with in west Toronto. It's a sort hub on the outer edges where the loading docks are and a delivery depot in the centre where dozens of parcel trucks are loaded. But as I suggested, and could be very wrong, none of the major couriers are going to put something like that in Ottawa. But Amazon is gradually creating a full fledged courier company to its stable of businesses and I can see this being part of that process.

But then, I look at a map and wonder why there? Is the land cheap and is Amazon that tight with a penny they would chase a cheaper piece of land that isn't in an efficient location for that type of need? And then I wonder why would they put a parcel hub in Ottawa, that relatively close to Montreal? And not a similar type facility in Toronto yet? Or maybe in Toronto, they are waiting for the hub facility that a large chunk of their stuff goes through now becomes vacant the first part of next year when Purolator moves into its new hub? Probably pick that up cheap and can't beat the location. So, who knows. Maybe it's Canadian Tire or somebody and I picked up on a very wrong scent lol.

Catenary Jun 18, 2021 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Djeffery (Post 9314800)
^^All good points. What leads me towards Amazon is the description upthread of x amount of large trucks at certain times a day and of small vehicles at certain times a day. Sounds exactly like a courier depot only this one is huge. This is almost like a courier depot I'm familiar with in west Toronto. It's a sort hub on the outer edges where the loading docks are and a delivery depot in the centre where dozens of parcel trucks are loaded. But as I suggested, and could be very wrong, none of the major couriers are going to put something like that in Ottawa. But Amazon is gradually creating a full fledged courier company to its stable of businesses and I can see this being part of that process.

But then, I look at a map and wonder why there? Is the land cheap and is Amazon that tight with a penny they would chase a cheaper piece of land that isn't in an efficient location for that type of need? And then I wonder why would they put a parcel hub in Ottawa, that relatively close to Montreal? And not a similar type facility in Toronto yet? Or maybe in Toronto, they are waiting for the hub facility that a large chunk of their stuff goes through now becomes vacant the first part of next year when Purolator moves into its new hub? Probably pick that up cheap and can't beat the location. So, who knows. Maybe it's Canadian Tire or somebody and I picked up on a very wrong scent lol.

Amazon's last-mile centres often load the vans indoors. This would require multiple ground level doors to drive into and out of the building. The renders only show two, and they're in awkward places more useful for moving the occasional forklift in and out than anything else. There's also no on-site parking for delivery vehicles - there's a staff lot and trailer spaces, but nothing delivery van sized.

This would also be a HUGE facility just to do last-mile, and Amazon doesn't have a last-mile presence in Ottawa. Intelcom does the bulk of their work, and manages that out of a small facility in a light industrial strip mall.

This seems like a proper crossdock facility where trucks are unloaded, items are sorted and warehoused temporarily, generally without any vertical racking, and sent back out again.


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