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Bodin May 2, 2021 6:06 AM

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Originally Posted by sopas ej (Post 9265660)
Oh mah gah this is bugging me too!!! I'm wondering if the dark building on the right has since been "reskinned," and has a different look to it, and I'm wondering if the low brick buildings in the foreground have since been demolished. They kind of remind me of some buildings in Old Town Pasadena, but this couldn't possibly be there. Also, the way those old buildings are right up to the sidewalk...

I've noticed a lot of chatter about the black building, but does anyone recognize the "ank" building on the left? Likely a bank building. Maybe that will help?

Martin Pal May 2, 2021 5:25 PM

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Bodin, I've thought the font looks like US Bank's font, but that hasn't helped me.

ethereal_reality May 3, 2021 5:21 AM

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re: The two buildings in the background of the Robby Muller polaroid.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/jRRGoO.jpg



What about these two buildings? (circled below)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/O2LWhY.jpg
IMDB

This is a screengrab from To Live and Die in L.A. (1985) Cinematographer, Robby Muller







But I'm having difficulty finding the two buildings in real life.

google-earth

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BillinGlendaleCA May 3, 2021 3:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9267821)
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What about these two buildings? (circled below)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/O2LWhY.jpg
IMDB

This is a screengrab from To Live and Die in L.A. (1985) Cinematographer, Robby Muller







But I'm having difficulty finding the two buildings in real life.

google-earth

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The building(s) on the right is the Broadway Plaza, the one of the left may be 651 Flower.

jerry1656 May 3, 2021 6:08 PM

green building
 
After staring at that green building long enough me thinks that the woodwork windows appear to me to look slightly Japanese. Thus I would throw a guess that it could be Dntn LA, - Little Tokyo or the Toy District. That could also account for the red brick classic old type that was repainted over, and the 1 way street would be one of the East West streets, and the shadows show it to be late morning or early noon. That's all I can come up with.

ethereal_reality May 3, 2021 8:32 PM

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"1965 Los Angeles Young Men Dog in &On 1939 Dodge Jalopy"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/h12bHB.jpg
eBay

This was going to be a mystery location until the seller mentioned what's written on the back.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/Pv5yfZ.jpg


But there's a conundrum.



First, lets look at the present-day buildings that appeared in background of the 1965 photo. They're the same.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/NtC0zZ.jpg
GSV



But now let's look at the opposite side of the street where the jalopy was parked in a drive.

The building you see is St. James Episcopal School. (hence the young gentlemen in the 1965 photograph / they were probably students)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/bEoYxV.jpg
GSV

The school obviously doesn't match the arts & craft-like structures we see on either side of the jalopy in the old pic.
At first, I thought the brick & wooden building(s) in the vintage photo was an earlier version of the school - BUT the present-day school building appears OLDER than 1965. :shrug:


for search purposes: 615 So. St. Andrew's Place - April 28th 1965- Los Angeles
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ethereal_reality May 3, 2021 9:17 PM

Oh, and one more thing. . .


What is this thing in front of the jalopy's right front tire?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/uHdsJ0.jpg
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Mickey Mouse ears?




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Noir_Noir May 4, 2021 12:12 AM

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This 1956 aerial shows the space between the two buildings where the jalopy was parked.


https://i.imgur.com/E4HUznN.jpg
mil.library.ucsb.edu


The site is cleared in a 1972 aerial. St. James Episcopal School moved to the site in 1981.

ScottyB May 4, 2021 5:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9268564)
Oh, and one more thing. . .


What is this thing in front of the jalopy's right front tire?

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...922/uHdsJ0.jpg
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Mickey Mouse ears?






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That is the tire! The wheel is turned to the left showing some of the side of the tire.:cheers:

Bristolian May 4, 2021 5:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9268494)
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"1965 Los Angeles Young Men Dog in &On 1939 Dodge Jalopy"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/h12bHB.jpg
eBay

That looks more like a '34 Ford to me. There's a cat there too and the dog might be looking for it.

Martin Pal May 4, 2021 7:59 PM

Meow:

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9268494)
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"1965 Los Angeles Young Men Dog [and CAT] in & on 1939 Dodge Jalopy"

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/h12bHB.jpg
eBay

for search purposes: 615 So. St. Andrew's Place - April 28th 1965- Los Angeles
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Bristolian, in looking up car photos online, I'd have to agree with your assessment of it looking more like a 1934 Ford.

(In 1965 the car would be around 31 years old. A 31 year old car now would be from 1990. Just seems weird.)

By the way, I looked up the eBay link and the seller advertises this as:
"1965 Los Angeles Young Men Dog in & on 1939 Dodge Jalopy African American Gay interest"

? ? ?

I notice this a lot on photographs on eBay. Any photo of guys together...the guys are always labeled "handsome" and/or "affectionate" if they're near each other. I guess the "gay interest" label gets results for sellers? How do they know that it doesn't turn off other buyers? Just pondering this noticeable pattern on eBay.

Bristolian May 4, 2021 9:29 PM

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Martin, I didn't know what a '39 Dodge looked like but thought if the caption was correct, they had a grill nearly identical to the classic '34 Ford. The Dodge actually has a very different look.

I also do those time span comparisons and they can often be pretty hard to fathom.

Earl Boebert May 4, 2021 9:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Bristolian (Post 9269660)
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Martin, I didn't know what a '39 Dodge looked like but thought if the caption was correct, they had a grill nearly identical to the classic '34 Ford. The Dodge actually has a very different look.

I also do those time span comparisons and they can often be pretty hard to fathom.

That sure looks like the Ford "V8" symbol at the top of that grill.

Cheers,

Earl

ethereal_reality May 5, 2021 7:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Noir_Noir (Post 9268762)

This 1956 aerial shows the space between the two buildings where the jalopy was parked.

https://i.imgur.com/E4HUznN.jpg
mil.library.ucsb.edu

The site is cleared in a 1972 aerial. St. James Episcopal School moved to the site in 1981.

Thanks for the aerial Noir Noir!...So the school is obviously newer than it looks.


I would have guessed it was built around the time of the W.P.A.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/bEoYxV.jpg

The white vertical areas (pilasters?) between the windows and framing the front entrance made me think of art deco.



Here's a closer look at the entrance.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/6SWlpb.jpg

If the architects were aiming for a neo-deco look they succeeded.

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ethereal_reality May 5, 2021 8:12 PM

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mystery location.



"1900'S NEGATIVE..VICTORIAN LADIES,REAL ESTATE SIGNS SANTA MONICA CALIFORNIA"


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/xq90/924/6cXKMY.jpg
eBay

If you look closely there is a smallish house or bungalow behind the 'Mountain Crest Estate' sign and another building along the left edge of the photograph. (perhaps the two structures are remnants of an old farm)

There also appears to be a very large sign on the crest of the hill but all we can see of it is an A and one third of the 2nd letter (R?) I thought it would spell out 'Moutain Crest Estate' but obviously it doesn't.

Also note that at the bottom of the 'Mountain Crest Estate' sign it say. ."Inquire at Store" with a finger pointing [B]- - - - >



Oh, and one last thought:
I wonder if the women just bought property there. They seem quite jubilant.
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HossC May 5, 2021 8:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9270716)

Thanks for the aerial Noir Noir!...So the school is obviously newer than it looks.

I would have guessed it was built around the time of the W.P.A.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...923/bEoYxV.jpg

The white vertical areas (pilasters?) between the windows and framing the front entrance made me think of art deco.

The new building permit is dated September 21st, 1979, and says that there were no existing buildings on the lot. The architect is given as Leidenfrost-Horowitz & Associates - you can see a list of some of their other projects at www.emporis.com.

ethereal_reality May 5, 2021 8:43 PM

Thanks Hoss.



oops. . .I forgot about the smaller sign in the 1900s neg. ...Here's a closer look if anyone is interested.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/PoY8vc.jpg
detail/eBay

FIREBREAK...."Extends from Topanga Canyon to Laurel Canyon"

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Lwize May 6, 2021 1:34 PM

Probably also says "Extinguish your cigarettes"?

ethereal_reality May 6, 2021 10:42 PM

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https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/G42blC.jpg

Boy! 'Mountain Crest Estate' is a tough nut to crack!...I just finished an hour or two of searching.


Let's review:
We're talking about an early subdivision, right? And, per the 'firebreak' sign, the location (560 acres) has to be somewhere between Topanga Canyon and Laurel Canyon.

My guess is. . the 729 Central Building is in downtown Los Angeles. (or perhaps Santa Monica?) :shrug:





Although I didn't find any information on 'Mountain Crest Estate' I found a half dozen or so rabbit holes that I plan to revisit. :) Fun times!

Snix May 7, 2021 4:40 PM

I remember hearing at the time that the midcentury style screen block was added to the Warner Bros. theater building as set dressing for the film "Ed Wood."
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...7f60c0c2_b.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZ10wLxSYUs

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9266786)
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Here's another slide from Nov. 1974 (no doubt taken by the same tourist)

"Star’s Deli Restaurant Hollywood Blvd 35mm Photo Slide Nov 1974 Vtg Los Angeles."

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/HOFvwR.png
eBay

This is the northwest corner of the old Warners Theater building on Hollywood & Wilcox.





Here's the corner of the building today.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/jfpOOO.jpg

It appears they have restored the original grillwork and tlles.

Here


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