You know, I remember really thinking I was going to hate this building. I’m sure there’s a post somewhere in this thread of me trashing it (although I think that was before the design was finalized). I have to say though, I’m impressed with how it came out. Is the deign as daring or unique as 53W53 or Steinway? Not necessarily. But all in all I think it’s a very high-quality building, worthy of its place on the skyline, and I’m looking forward to seeing how it looks with the blue stuff removed and the lighting scheme installed.
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^ Yeah, people do have a tendency to settle for what they can get. After all, it's not like the design is going to change. But as far as I can tell, this building looks exactly as expected from the renderings. The glass does in fact look nice. The crown has the exact detail from the renderings. No surprises here for me.
I'm sure these guys saw a lot... https://www.instagram.com/p/CF0bhrqAef8/ https://scontent-lga3-1.cdninstagram...c1&oe=5FA00A4E |
This building is fine in a world where we got ~5-10 new very tall buildings all at once, and we can afford to have boring 1500' buildings now. Had this gone up 10 years ago people might have been more disappointed this didn't do more.
I'm still of the opinion that just about any other developer/architect would have put up a better or more interesting building given the same program. |
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I think this building would be perfectly fine somewhere else, particularly in a city that doesn’t have a skyline legacy. But to be fair to Barnett, he was leaning towards a better design, even went as far as filing for construction. But then came Nordstrom and 220 CPS. That changed the game, and had the city not approved the cantilever, Barnett insisted the entire eastern wall would be what you see below the cantilever. So yeah, it could’ve been worse. But that doesn’t change things. As far as how thin it is, well it’s a residential tower on a skyline with other thin residentials. Most of the supertalls rising on the skyline range from being balky to too balky. So I don’t mind the slender throwbacks. |
The architects have stated all along, that they designed this tower from the inside out, not outside in. As disappointed as some of us are looking up at this thing, I have no doubt that the experience from the inside for those for whom it was built/intended, will be nothing short of spectacular. Sigh...
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I do understand the disappointment that this tower doesn't have a more interesting design for the New York skyline, but personally, the more I see of it as it nears completion, the more I genuinely like it. Especially those Golden Hour shots, of course, but even just appreciating the details and massing from different angles, the building is really growing on me. |
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Anyway, it was interesting watching it rise. https://www.instagram.com/p/CF2oBjOHSAc/ https://scontent-yyz1-1.cdninstagram...c7&oe=5FA129CC |
CPT's design (with spire) would have worked well for Bloomberg Tower. Have the cantilever over the oval motor court, and offices in the podium instead of a department store.
https://cdn-img-feed.streeteasy.com/.../261238428.jpg https://streeteasy.com/property/8452...acon-court-43a A glass bottomed swimming pool over the cantilever. |
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I've posted some of these before, but now that the crown is nearing completion, it's interesting to go back and look at what remains, if anything, from the previous design. We've seen other versions of this tower, From Foster, SHoP, etc. I didn't like SHoP's design for this tower too much, one of the few things from them I didn't like. Foster's was ok. But those were different versions of this tower from different architects that didn't make the cut. The graphics below are designs from the current team, and were filed with the DOB, meaning they were what was initially going to be built. There are usually modifications to buildings, even as they rise, but usually nothing major.
This first set was still 1,550 ft... 1. https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...0ux3D4h.c1.JPG_https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...oBLNnLD.c2.JPG 3. https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...um4.c3Copy.JPG https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...Zscc8m.c3b.JPG 4. https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...lrYL0zL.c4.JPG 5. https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...o6qLlmr.c5.JPG 6. https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...B5GP5UA.c6.JPG 7. https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...BvrP38P.c7.JPG 8. https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...2yLGHHq.c8.JPG_https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...vd0W6Qx.c9.JPG This is pretty much the current design, minus the obvious spire. 10. https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...6BzcOa.c10.JPG_https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...5oILyb.c11.JPG 12. https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...UHhl6m.c12.JPG_https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...KErbdA.c13.JPG 14. https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...rFYgRo.c14.JPG 15. https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...5wMOeb.c15.JPG 16. https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...QO5MvS.c16.JPG 17. https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...v2vE30.c17.JPG You can see how it was to be integrated into the crown, and how some of that element still remains. 18. https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...6rcnAE.c18.JPG https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...18_InPixio.jpg 19. https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...PnfZI8.c19.JPG 20. https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...Fu4gkc.c20.JPG 21. https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...es4zQe.c21.JPG |
^ These diagrams are informative. I like the ladder-like structure attached to the spire. I have no idea what it was designed to do, but visually it helps integrate the spire with the rest of the building. I find that the spire plus the "ladder" look a bit like a miniature version of the whole building.
Too bad the spire is no longer happening, but on the bright side, the roof height used to be only 1527', and now it's 1550'. |
This is looking better than I thought it would.
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I'm surprised they didn't change that portion of the crown to look like the rest of it. It was designed to integrate the spire. I guess at that point, it simply didn't matter. https://a4.pbase.com/o12/06/102706/1...Fu4gkc.c20.JPG The facade at least will be a nice, clean reflection... https://a4.pbase.com/g12/06/102706/2...2.QplvDsY2.jpg https://www.instagram.com/p/CGCsgxVnzqN/ https://scontent-lga3-2.cdninstagram...f4&oe=5FA72588 https://scontent-lga3-2.cdninstagram...9e&oe=5FA6C2A1 |
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