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CHICAGO - new jahn tower
 

when it rains it pours!

O yes...

Remember that rather blocky (Destefano?) building proposed for this site? Another case where the bust may have actually led to a better result. Can't wait to see the actual renderings and details of this Jahn supertall (finally he gets one in his hometown). Also interesting to see the mix of condos/apartments.

:ahhh::ahhh::ahhh:
I don't believe what is happening to the South Loop this past week. This has to be a dream. Are we in The Matrix?

Wow. It appears as if the entire top of the tower is slightly rotated... AND cantilevered over the building to the south...

Damn, SUPER excited about this.

Has this been officially announced to any degree yet? Was it mentioned at the meeting?

Dear all other developers stop proposing so the ones coming now can be built. :tup:

Wow any links [info] on this one?

fml.

If the Calatrava and multiple failed projects of the last decade taught us anything it's I'LL BELIEVE WHEN I SEE IT. :uhh:

Just saying. I mean, 1,000 feet... in the South Loop? No way. I foresee drastic scaling back on this one after massive opposition.

Far less units, 600 feet, and more parking. Mark my words.

But how are else the penthouse owners going to park their collection? Perhaps Jay Leno will put down a deposit...

^^^At least it has apartments all the way down to the second floor on Michigan. If they are going for the high end residential market, most of those people will expect at least one parking space. That's probably just reality.

OMG!! Totally missed this one!!!! What the what??!!

Christmas came early

Oh, sweet!

Can't wait for the renders on this one

This is crazy. Who the hell are all these people moving into these thousands of new units in all these new buildings? Seriously? I love new skyscrapers as much as the next guy but I get worried about the surplus on the market (not necessarily with the starchitect skyscrapers, but with the mediocre midrises).

Glad to see that the entire Michigan Ave facade is activated with residences, at first glance of the silhouette that was my biggest concern. I am also pleased to see that it is not a block-through design, leaving the door open for a building to go up on Wabash to completely obscure the huge 130' parking podium.

Quite the times for the South Loop. Ralph Johnson at River South, Vinoly at 1200 S Mich, Jahn at 1000 S Mich, B+L at 1300 S Wabash, and a few big SCB turds floating around.

Well $3000/mo for an apartment is 30% of a $120,000/yr salary. That's pretty typical income for your techy types whom, up until recently, Chicago has had almost none of. I have a feeling the job creation downtown particularly in tech is driving this. Also remember that there have been a grand total of two luxury condo towers this cycle, both of which are under construction and in the Gold Coast. Assuming we have the same demand for condos downtown that we did in the last boom, we need to build at least 3,000 condos a year for the next few years to even begin to absorb that demand. I have a feeling there are some market forces demanding condo units starting to pent up and they will be released through flashy new towers.

This is just surreal. I am so stunned about all these recent proposals. I'm so happy I could just puke.

Also, I'm not sure I quite understand the massing yet, but I'm looking forward to Jahn schooling BIG and 2 WTC on how to properly design a building that cantilevers outwards as it rises.

love the height...but have to wonder - why no questions about the "why" that it is cantilevered like this? seems Wanda caught a heck of a lot more grief for an equally arbitrary design element that doesn't seem to reflect context...

i'm just sayin..bring it on nonetheless!!

I'm holding all judgement until we see actual renderings.

Yes. I can't wait to see the renderings! I'm trying to picture it in 3D.

A few more that might help you better visualize the shape/cantilever
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http://i62.tinypic.com/2mdkirr.jpg
http://i57.tinypic.com/zjuomc.jpg

Guys, I'd avoid hyperventilating about this until there's an actual proposal and plans and whatnot. Plans get out for buildings that don't come.

Neighboring building is part of the project sub area, yet occupied and protected, limiting the footprint of the proposed building. However, as a residential building ascends, so does the price per square foot of the units, and the premium put on lake views, and/or unobstructed views. So it only makes sense to have the floor plates get larger as the building gets taller. Add some deflection so the SW corner units have 'lake views' and you have dramatically increased the estimated return of your building.

same, i normally hate cantilevered buildings... ie. WTC2 and the first nordstrom tower proposal.

Wanda caught a lot of heck for poorly conceived rationale of many of the design elements. We haven't heard any rationale from Jahn yet. With 3 decades of solid work under his belt from the Chicago seven to his recent work that is by contrast quite formal I think we can expect this to be quite a bit more thought out than say Bjarke's 2WTC

Possibly, but lets also realize that we're dealing with different alderman now.

This is no longer the 2nd Ward and Fioretti isn't around.

Because of gerrymandering, this is the 4th Ward, Will Burns. He's the same guy who got Vue53 through in Hyde Park against the NIMBYs there.

The South Loop now has 3 aldermanic representatives; Dowell, Burns, and Solis.

You speak much truth, and I very much agree that I'll believe it when I see it. The only thing I'd say to counter that is that not only are these proposals happening earlier in the cycle of this boom, the last boom was killed by the worst recession in recent history, caused by the subprime mortgage crisis. What's more, the Spire was an insanely ambitious proposal. A tower barely breaking 1000 ft is hardly on par with the Spire.

BVic is right, there being three aldermen in the area changes the dynamic. They're all south and southwest side guys who are elected by those neighborhoods and deal with their kind of issues and haven't built a career upon inserting themselves to multi-hundred million dollar construction projects. When I listed to Dowell at these meetings it does not sound like she gives a single shit about the emotional plights of rich prairie-landers the way Reilly has to pretend to for River Northers and the SOAR crowd.

Without that big ego factor from Reilly or Fioretti, maybe these kinds of projects will be able to squeak through without all of the bullshit. Or maybe things will get screwed up because they haven't dealt with things of this scale before.

What is happening? WOW

She sure does care what people think, but you probably missed the way she handled it. You see, she asked the developers when the PD was last amended to allow this development. The developer said 2008, as in, this thing went through when it was part of the 2nd ward. The nimbys had their chance and it was on someone else's watch. If you want to complain about something, complain about something she can do something about.

Oh, and by the way, I noticed that Tina Feldstein of PDNA was at the meeting and said nothing against (or for) any of the developments.

Chicago's living proof you don't have to be on the East and/or West coast to get high-rise development!!

I'll defend SOAR for the most part on this one. They're not the same neighborhood group they were 10 years ago. They're fairly progressive development wise and advocate for the tall and thin.

Remember, they were very pro-Spire. They also have no problem with the height of the Stern proposal. They supported the Waldorf Astoria proposal that would have been 1,200' where the Lowe's currently is.

He definitely kisses the asses of River Northers though...

Yeah SOAR seems ok, but anyway, holy fuckballs! what??? To reiterate the hysterics of the clip WHAT'S HAPPENING????

Crains article
 

From Crains:
Helmut Jahn designing 86-story South Loop residential tower
By Dennis Rodkin
September 24, 2015

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/reale...idential-tower

Architect Helmut Jahn is designing an 86-story South Loop residential tower that would resemble a stack of four tall boxes, with the widest at the top.

The glassy tower proposed for 1000 S. Michigan Ave. would contain 506 residential units and parking for 598 cars, according to plans that appeared on the city clerk's website late yesterday in advance of today's meeting of the Committee on Zoning, Landmarks and Building Standards.

The proposal surfaces less than two days after Miami-based developer Crescent Heights rolled out its plans for a pair of buildings topping out at 76 stories high a little more than a block south, on the southeast corner of Roosevelt Road and Michigan Avenue. That plan, too has a “starchitect”: Rafael Viñoly.

Together, the Jahn and Viñoly projects would raise the profile of the South Loop, where the tallest building now is the 62-story One Museum Park, completed in 2009.

Yep. It's a semi normal salary for someone in tech with let's say more than 5-10 years of good experience who is good at their jobs. You could say the same thing about some consulting gigs too that might not necessarily be 100% tech. I recently saw a posting for Avant for a senior developer and the salary was listed at $90K-$170K/year. The high end is higher than normal for Chicago, but even at half of that if you had a good amount of experience, let's say low to mid 30s and were good at your job, you could get in the $120k-$140k range at some companies in town.

It's a lot of movement lately - a lot. I'm just hoping it's not all speculative or anything. I'm really hoping that the developers know a little something that we don't know yet.

given the fiscal situation of the state/city and stagnant salaries, there is no chance both of these big dogs get built. heck, i'll be surprised if even one gets off the ground without major reductions.

Well, the medical district is a straight shot west, with incomes far exceeding those for tech.

And the Northwestern Hospital complex is easy to get to - straight shot north on Columbus

What does the states fiscal issues have to do with these developments? There hasn't been a huge increase in vacancy rates downtown and companies have continued to move their headquarters there.

I don't know about that, with thousands of jobs coming from the suburbs and the condominium market low on supply I bet this has a chance to be built.

I don't think this is being targeted for the average worker anyways...

Actually salaries haven't been stagnant for the income bracket these are targeting. The fiscal situation of the state/city has barely anything to do with this. To that point haven't you noticed Chicago has one of the best office markets in the US right now. Chicago is having it's best year ever in office sales.

This is just something people are always going to say.

"We're doing this!? What about the national debt?"
"Why not fix the potholes first!"
"With the fiscal mess this city is in, how can we..."

Even if you have a $300,000 mortgage, sometimes you have to spend $500 on a new dishwasher. A lot of people just don't have the cognitive apparatus required to make that leap.

wow, BURIED PARKING?

Slim and 1000 ft tall?

yes please!