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Tom In Chicago Feb 23, 2023 3:24 PM
Just piling on. . .

https://wgntv.com/news/wgn-investiga...airport-train/

. . .

twister244 Feb 23, 2023 3:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom In Chicago (Post 9873741)
This is another problem that should be addressed and fixed immediately. Mostly because of T5 connections for folks flying in that need to connect.

glowrock Feb 24, 2023 3:35 PM
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Originally Posted by twister244 (Post 9873448)
I think we are just waiting for construction to officially begin on the satellites, which is supposed to occur this year. I am hoping SOM releases some updated renderings of what they are envisioning as we really have just two renderings from their original pitch that doesn't do much justice:

https://www.som.com/news/som-team-se...al-in-chicago/

The only things left for T5 is any remaining work on security checkpoints, along with completion of new shops/restaurants.
Right now Terminal 5 is pretty much devoid of most ships and restaurants, so I hope the construction finishes up fairly soon. ;)

Aaron (Glowrock)

Kngkyle Feb 27, 2023 2:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom In Chicago (Post 9873741)
Now they aren't going to allow rideshare pickups at T5... so you have to take the train to T1/2/3 to catch a rideshare. It's like the city's main focus is looking for new ways to make the airport less convenient.

Tom In Chicago Feb 27, 2023 3:53 PM
^Right. . . this goes beyond passive ignorance and wades into active stupidity!

. . .

k1052 Feb 27, 2023 5:02 PM
I would not be unhappy if they moved all rideshare pickup to a remote location served by the ATS (assuming they can make it function reliably).

twister244 Feb 27, 2023 5:33 PM
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Originally Posted by k1052 (Post 9877167)
I would not be unhappy if they moved all rideshare pickup to a remote location served by the ATS (assuming they can make it function reliably).
I would. The idea of having to get on a train/bus out of T5 just to take an Uber out of O'Hare when there's a dropoff/loading area right in front of T5 sounds frustrating to me.

Kngkyle Feb 27, 2023 7:16 PM
I don't think its good policy for the city to reserve easy terminal access to car owners.... the opposite should be true...

My preference is to take the Blue Line but as that is often in shambles these days I opt for a rideshare if the Kennedy isn't a parking lot.

k1052 Feb 27, 2023 7:25 PM
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Originally Posted by twister244 (Post 9877211)
I would. The idea of having to get on a train/bus out of T5 just to take an Uber out of O'Hare when there's a dropoff/loading area right in front of T5 sounds frustrating to me.
If the loading arrangement is better than present I'd be all for it. Drop offs would still occur as normal at departures. When it's really busy the pickup zone clogs up and becomes a huge mess and it can be difficult for some people to locate their car. I'd apply this to all terminals as well, not just T5. I usually use T3.

Kngkyle Feb 27, 2023 8:46 PM
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Originally Posted by k1052 (Post 9877311)
If the loading arrangement is better than present I'd be all for it. Drop offs would still occur as normal at departures. When it's really busy the pickup zone clogs up and becomes a huge mess and it can be difficult for some people to locate their car. I'd apply this to all terminals as well, not just T5. I usually use T3.
Right, so prioritize suburban car owners over city dwellers using rideshare. :yuck:

According to Uber this is just a temporary move while some construction is done at T5. I'm ok with it given that added context.

k1052 Feb 27, 2023 9:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Kngkyle (Post 9877394)
Right, so prioritize suburban car owners over city dwellers using rideshare. :yuck:

According to Uber this is just a temporary move while some construction is done at T5. I'm ok with it given that added context.
If divers can que more efficiently closer to the pickup zone it would would likely save me time and potentially not having to wait outside for so long in rather variable weather. I find nothing attractive about the current pickup scheme.

N830MH Feb 28, 2023 3:35 AM
O'Hare gets $50 million from FAA for Terminal 3 upgrades

It's a start!

https://www.chicagobusiness.com/airl...n-faa-upgrades

twister244 Feb 28, 2023 3:33 PM
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Originally Posted by N830MH (Post 9877715)
O'Hare gets $50 million from FAA for Terminal 3 upgrades

It's a start!

https://www.chicagobusiness.com/airl...n-faa-upgrades
Nice! I don't have a subscription (sadly, I still need to sign up for Crains...). This is independent of the expansion plans, right?

k1052 Feb 28, 2023 3:40 PM
non-paywalled story from the Sun Times


O’Hare receives $50 million in federal grant money for upgrades at Terminal 3

https://chicago.suntimes.com/2023/2/...-at-terminal-3

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The funds will be used to help finance several upgrades at Terminal 3, including an expanded passenger corridor, approximately 10,000 square feet of new concessions and amenity spaces, renovated restrooms and improvements to the terminal’s baggage facilities.

The total costs for the Terminal 3 improvement project is $200 million, and the rest of the costs will be financed by previously allocated federal funds and airline revenue, the mayor’s office said.

Construction at Terminal 3 is scheduled to begin this summer and will be completed in phases. Officials anticipate the terminal will be ready for passengers by 2025.

N830MH Feb 28, 2023 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by twister244 (Post 9878033)
Nice! I don't have a subscription (sadly, I still need to sign up for Crains...). This is independent of the expansion plans, right?
I know! I can’t pay for it. I don’t like charged. All I want free newspaper on the website. I only like to be free. Free of charge!

N830MH Feb 28, 2023 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by k1052 (Post 9878043)
non-paywalled story from the Sun Times


O’Hare receives $50 million in federal grant money for upgrades at Terminal 3

https://chicago.suntimes.com/2023/2/...-at-terminal-3
Thanks for sharing this! I appreciate your help.

Tom In Chicago Mar 1, 2023 4:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Kngkyle (Post 9877304)
My preference is to take the Blue Line but as that is often in shambles these days I opt for a rideshare if the Kennedy isn't a parking lot.
Took me 1:45 to get to the Loop from Kenosha this morning. . . I was going 80mph from the state line all the way to Peterson Ave. and then hit the Kennedy brick wall. . .

Sounds like it's going to get worse. . . a LOT worse. . .

https://wgntv.com/news/chicago-news/...egin-in-march/

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Originally Posted by WGN
Kennedy Expressway construction project to last 3 years, cost $150M and begins in March

by: Sarah Jindra

Posted: Feb 28, 2023 / 12:54 PM CST :: Updated: Feb 28, 2023 / 05:26 PM CST

CHICAGO — Drivers can expect major delays on the Kennedy Expressway starting next month as a new, three-year construction project, begins.

On Tuesday, the Illinois Department of Transportation announced its plans to rehabilitate 36 bridge structures between the Edens and Ohio Street. It also plans to patch the expressway pavement in that stretch, paint the Hubbard’s Cave, replace overhead sign structures and replace the access system to the express lanes.
. . .

CaptainJilliams Mar 23, 2023 9:43 PM
Not sure if this belongs in the airport thread, transit thread, or both. A new way to get to O'hare is coming in a couple of years...

United and Archer will open an air taxi route to Chicago’s O’Hare airport in 2025

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Archer Aviation and United Airlines announced a partnership today to launch a commercial air taxi route in Chicago. The companies plan to open the flight path between downtown and O’Hare International Airport in 2025.

Besides being United’s headquarters and largest hub, Chicago's airport commute makes it an ideal testbed for flying taxis. For example, the drive to or from O’Hare, in the western suburb of Rosemont, can take anywhere from 35 minutes to over an hour, depending on traffic; even in one of the city’s elevated trains, it can take around 45 minutes. But Archer estimates a flight in one of its air taxis will only take 10 minutes to travel from O’Hare to its destination at a downtown helipad. The program will initially be limited to the mainline O’Hare / downtown route, but the companies eventually plan to add smaller paths to surrounding communities.
https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/VV...29f17d.cf.webp

https://www.engadget.com/united-and-...191352804.html

jonesrmj Mar 24, 2023 1:47 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptainJilliams (Post 9900291)
United and Archer will open an air taxi route to Chicago’s O’Hare airport in 2025

https://www.engadget.com/united-and-...191352804.html
Tbh, I'd rather see express rail service than this. This seems like a gadgetbahn.

nomarandlee Mar 24, 2023 2:35 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptainJilliams (Post 9900291)
Not sure if this belongs in the airport thread, transit thread, or both. A new way to get to O'hare is coming in a couple of years...

United and Archer will open an air taxi route to Chicago’s O’Hare airport in 2025


https://s.yimg.com/uu/api/res/1.2/VV9mXPHsEt3_h2u3.l3AbA--~B/Zmk9ZmlsbDtoPTUyNTt3PTg3NTthcHBpZD15dGFjaHlvbg--/https://media-mbst-pub-ue1.s3.amazonaws.com/creatr-uploaded-images/2023-03/e15ecb30-c9ab-11ed-975e-a05dbb29f17d.cf.webp[/IMG]

https://www.engadget.com/united-and-...191352804.html
I wonder where a commercial helipad would go for this. Would making a pad above parking the ground lot B across the United Terminal make sense? I think they would have to make the pad landside rather than airside. I also presume that it would follow the Kennedy corridor route on the way in/out so as not to interfere with airport operations.


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