What are the odds we see a design at some point this year, or that it gets off the ground by 2021, realistically?
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Updated design this year and perhaps a start date before the anniversary next year?
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any chance this is higher than 1,270 FT roof top height?
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They should just make it 1,362' in any case, kind of dumb not too tbh. |
Not specifically WTC related, but to show that business and office leasing will go on...
https://commercialobserver.com/2020/...-one-five-one/ TikTok Taking 232K-SF in Durst’s One Five One The popular video sharing app is expanding and making a splash with the first sizable Manhattan lease in months BY STEVE CUOZZO MAY 28, 2020 Quote:
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My goodness this symbolism of the original WTC has been the biggest albatross for this whole complex. You want symbolism... how about WTC1 being 2,001 feet tall? Whoever thought up 1,776 should have been eyerolled out of the room and I see no reason at all the memorialize the random technical height of the original towers unless it's a subtle reference on the new towers on their way up to higher roof heights.
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The observation chat is interesting. Remember they have all that competition coming from midtown. I mean the HY's one is amazing inside and out and as I've said before gives off more of a WOTW vibe than 1WTC's offering in my opinion.
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And it would be a money maker like the rest of the decks. I don't know that SIlverstein doesn't have some unwritten agreement with Durst. But tower 2 should at least have a Windows on the World type restaurant. |
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Putting an amenity of this sort atop 2WTC looks like a no-brainer to me. |
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Plus whole building blocking the other building from varying views is testament as the original design of the complex, to only really look good as a whole from the south west. Most of the artwork show the complex in this way. Another reason why they should have rebuilt or used a Twin Tower like concept. It would look good at every view point. Oh and it would have been finished by now........ |
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The thing about the twins is you’re talking about buildings of more than 4 msf each - massive towers that today would be a lot higher. At the time the rebuilding concept was being established, there wasn’t much faith that supertalls would even exists in the numbers and heights of today. The plan was to keep the office space no higher than 1,000 ft, with the events id 9/11 and the number of people stuck at the top fresh on everyone’s minds. Then there’s the issue if leasing and financing. Not everyone was committed to taking space Downtown pre-9/11. There are companies that left, and will never go back. But there are some companies who will go for the first time. If history has taught us anything about the original WTC, it’s that it will take time for the WTC and Downtown to absorb all of that space. And we are seeing it play out again now. |
Mr. Silverstein, a true New York hero, and Sir Foster will deliver a showstopper here.
I can't say enough good things about Mr. Silverstein. I saw him in an interview, and he appears to be a nice, genuine person. |
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2WTC really has to be special. Fingers crossed. |
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Also remember the crowds, even some in government, who wanted the entire site to be left as a memorial, without replacing the lost office space. They didn't take into account the reason the World Trade Center was built in the first place, and we can't forget that either. The office space must be rebuilt. Leave the residential to towers like 45 Broad, and 80 South Street, or one of the other many residential towers currently rising or planned Downtown. |
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Also there was a proposal to build a 1000ft+ building near 388 Greenwich Street I think. I dunno can't really remember. Any ideas? |
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