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NYguy Nov 6, 2017 9:14 PM

jaeseung

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The Best Forumer Nov 6, 2017 9:41 PM

Cant wait till they're done.

chris08876 Nov 6, 2017 11:49 PM

This is rising a lot faster than I expected. Either time is flying or this thing is hauling. That's what I like about Barnett, he's a no bullshit kinda of guy. Gets things off the ground, and into the skyscraper books.

ILNY Nov 8, 2017 4:54 AM

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225 W 57th St (Central Park Tower by NyConstructionPhoto, on Flickr

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225 W 57th St (Central Park Tower by NyConstructionPhoto, on Flickr


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225 W 57th St (Central Park Tower by NyConstructionPhoto, on Flickr


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225 W 57th St (Central Park Tower by NyConstructionPhoto, on Flickr


You can see facade color under the foil.

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225 W 57th St (Central Park Tower by NyConstructionPhoto, on Flickr


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225 W 57th St (Central Park Tower by NyConstructionPhoto, on Flickr


Video Link

TonyL Nov 8, 2017 12:27 PM

^^^These have to be older pics. If you count the number of stories above the currently installed cladding, there are at least 12 in these pics and around 17 in the pics above them.

Marcos Nov 8, 2017 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 7977953)

Can someone help orient me to what I'm seeing in this photo, I'm really not familiar with NY & it's almost overwhelming given what's already there & what's currently under construction. First what is the big boy to the left of Essex House, then what are the two under construction moving left to right? Thank you

streetscaper Nov 8, 2017 1:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TonyL (Post 7979657)
^^^These have to be older pics. If you count the number of stories above the currently installed cladding, there are at least 12 in these pics and around 17 in the pics above them.

Yes they're lovely pics, but about 2.5 weeks old

TonyL Nov 8, 2017 1:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by streetscaper (Post 7979670)
Yes they're lovely pics, but about 2.5 weeks old

Yes they are and it's pretty cool to see the progress of 2.5 weeks.

TonyL Nov 8, 2017 1:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcos (Post 7979661)
Can someone help orient me to what I'm seeing in this photo, I'm really not familiar with NY & it's almost overwhelming given what's already there & what's currently under construction. First what is the big boy to the left of Essex House, then what are the two under construction moving left to right? Thank you

The tall one left of Essex is One57. In most of these Central Park views looking South you will see Tower Verre tallest under construction on the left. Slightly in front and to the right of that is 111 W57 and then CPT is slightly behind and to the left of the nearly completed 220 Central Park South.

O-tacular Nov 8, 2017 4:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TBone7281 (Post 7975165)
The earlier version was very... phallic. :uhh:

The way he's holding the model doesn't help.

JMKeynes Nov 8, 2017 5:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TBone7281 (Post 7975165)
The earlier version was very... phallic. :uhh:

I don't know any women who would want a slanted edge in their vaginas.

antinimby Nov 8, 2017 5:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by streetscaper (Post 7979670)
Yes they're lovely pics, but about 2.5 weeks old

Correct. Also, 220 CPS’s crane is currently almost taken down and shouldn’t be visible in that shot anymore.

ILNY Nov 8, 2017 6:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TonyL (Post 7979657)
^^^These have to be older pics. If you count the number of stories above the currently installed cladding, there are at least 12 in these pics and around 17 in the pics above them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by streetscaper (Post 7979670)
Yes they're lovely pics, but about 2.5 weeks old

Quote:

Originally Posted by antinimby (Post 7979985)
Correct. Also, 220 CPS’s crane is currently almost taken down and shouldn’t be visible in that shot anymore.

It takes me quite some time to process all my photos and I usually post with 1-3 week delay. If you don't want to see 2 weeks old pictures I will not be posting them anymore.

TonyL Nov 8, 2017 7:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ILNY (Post 7980050)
It takes me quite some time to process all my photos and I usually post with 1-3 week delay. If you don't want to see 2 weeks old pictures I will not be posting them anymore.

Post away. It was confusing me which was the only reason I asked. The most pics we have posted the better. I wasn't giving you a rough time at all. ;)

antinimby Nov 8, 2017 7:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ILNY (Post 7980050)
It takes me quite some time to process all my photos and I usually post with 1-3 week delay. If you don't want to see 2 weeks old pictures I will not be posting them anymore.

No, keep posting your pics regardless of their age. They are excellent. We just wanted to clarify the time frame on some of them for people who may not realize when they were taken.

NYCrules Nov 8, 2017 7:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILNY (Post 7980050)
It takes me quite some time to process all my photos and I usually post with 1-3 week delay. If you don't want to see 2 weeks old pictures I will not be posting them anymore.

No dude, the only reason the thread has come back to life after being on coma for 3 days is your post. Please keep them coming as I'm sure many appreciate your post :cheers:

streetscaper Nov 9, 2017 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILNY (Post 7980050)
It takes me quite some time to process all my photos and I usually post with 1-3 week delay. If you don't want to see 2 weeks old pictures I will not be posting them anymore.

Trust me I understand how long it takes to edit the pics :), and yours are especially appreciated:cheers:

mrnyc Nov 9, 2017 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILNY (Post 7980050)
It takes me quite some time to process all my photos and I usually post with 1-3 week delay. If you don't want to see 2 weeks old pictures I will not be posting them anymore.

aww no, no, no.

post what you want — anytime !!!

i always look forward to your updates. :tup:

ILNY Nov 9, 2017 2:03 PM

^^^^
Thank you all. I still have some 2 weeks old Hudson Yards photos, will post soon.

TonyL Nov 10, 2017 8:55 PM

Trying to determine scale of this one. If Essex House is 461 feet and 503 to the tip, that would place the construction of CTP at or a little over 600 feet at this point IMO.

WhatTheHeck5205 Nov 10, 2017 11:02 PM

Speaking of the Essex House, I think I posted on this thread a long time ago saying I thought CPT was “hideous” and I hoped it would get a height reduction or be canceled outright. At the time I thought it would be way too big in comparison to the Essex House/other buildings along CPS. I have to say though that this tower has really grown on me. Idk if I’m crazy about the idea of NYC one day having truly Coruscant-sized buildings one day as some of you guys have suggested, but right now I’m all for CPT and the whole current wave of supertalls. :tup:

TonyL Nov 11, 2017 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by PhyllisJerry71 (Post 7982613)
Speaking of the Essex House, I think I posted on this thread a long time ago saying I thought CPT was “hideous” and I hoped it would get a height reduction or be canceled outright. At the time I thought it would be way too big in comparison to the Essex House/other buildings along CPS. I have to say though that this tower has really grown on me. Idk if I’m crazy about the idea of NYC one day having truly Coruscant-sized buildings one day as some of you guys have suggested, but right now I’m all for CPT and the whole current wave of supertalls. :tup:

That's the same for me with 432. I couldn't stand that building initially but now it's kind of grown on me. I plan on a day trip to NYC once CTP is topped out to see just how dramatic this one is on the skyline. NYC is only 3 hours from the house.

JMKeynes Nov 11, 2017 2:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TonyL (Post 7982966)
That's the same for me with 432. I couldn't stand that building initially but now it's kind of grown on me. I plan on a day trip to NYC once CTP is topped out to see just how dramatic this one is on the skyline. NYC is only 3 hours from the house.

I agree. 432 is magnificent. I wouldn't want every building in the city to have that design, but it's simplicity is also unique with respect to the other supertalls in or rising in midtown, all of which have unique shapes, such as:

One Vanderbilt,
Verre
Steinway
30 Hudson Yards
The Spiral
ESB
Chrysler
220 CPS
Citicorp.

chris08876 Nov 11, 2017 8:26 PM

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Dac150 Nov 12, 2017 12:58 AM

Starting to really gain some height … this one will take many by surprise.

NYguy Nov 12, 2017 1:07 AM

^ It's nearly half it's height already, which is hard to believe.



Punkt Aki

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WhatTheHeck5205 Nov 12, 2017 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JMKeynes (Post 7982989)
I agree. 432 is magnificent. I wouldn't want every building in the city to have that design, but it's simplicity is also unique with respect to the other supertalls in or rising in midtown, all of which have unique shapes, such as:

One Vanderbilt,
Verre
Steinway
30 Hudson Yards
The Spiral
ESB
Chrysler
220 CPS
Citicorp.

Yes. 432’s beauty is definitely in its simplicity. It manages to convey the wealth of its residents without being ostentatious—vs. something like Trump Tower, whose gaudy design is meant to compensate for the fact that its occupants are (relatively) less well off.

TonyL Nov 12, 2017 11:50 PM

That 4874 post is absolutely stunning.

NY guy, would you believe that exact view was my morning view for 6 months following 9-11? We deployed to NYC on a Coast Guard ship and my certification to operate the ship alone with a crew of 16 was there. There was a point that I had 75 moving contacts on radar. I shit you not.

streetscaper Nov 14, 2017 12:44 AM

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City of Steel by Pixelicus, on Flickr

Crawford Nov 14, 2017 2:11 PM

So the building permits for this tower show 1,556 ft., not 1,550. Mods should probably change.

This may also explain why Extell refers to this tower as "over 1,550 ft." I had thought this was a hint that a spire was coming, but it could just be, that, yeah, it's literally 6 ft. over 1,550.

But I'm still hoping we get a spire. This tower needs it!

Zapatan Nov 14, 2017 5:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Crawford (Post 7985280)
So the building permits for this tower show 1,556 ft., not 1,550. Mods should probably change.

This may also explain why Extell refers to this tower as "over 1,550 ft." I had thought this was a hint that a spire was coming, but it could just be, that, yeah, it's literally 6 ft. over 1,550.

But I'm still hoping we get a spire. This tower needs it!

Aren't building permits to the top occupied floor usually? Could this thing end up over 1,600?

Wishful thinking maybe, and yes to the spire :cheers:

The Best Forumer Nov 14, 2017 7:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Zapatan (Post 7985528)
Aren't building permits to the top occupied floor usually? Could this thing end up over 1,600?

Wishful thinking maybe, and yes to the spire :cheers:

Interesting... what would it look like with a spire? Maybe even an observation deck up there?

The Best Forumer Nov 14, 2017 8:15 PM

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Originally Posted by streetscaper (Post 7984939)

Nice pic... what's that area in the upper right?

Zerton Nov 14, 2017 8:26 PM

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Originally Posted by The Best Forumer (Post 7985744)
Nice pic... what's that area in the upper right?

Queens/Brooklyn. The water is Jamaica Bay with the Atlantic beyond.

NYguy Nov 14, 2017 8:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Crawford (Post 7985280)
So the building permits for this tower show 1,556 ft., not 1,550. Mods should probably change.

Depends on what it was for. Last I've seen, diagrams had it at 1,550 ft, but we can be fixed if you submit the info.

JMKeynes Nov 16, 2017 5:48 PM

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Originally Posted by The Best Forumer (Post 7985744)
Nice pic... what's that area in the upper right?

The Atlantic Ocean.

fimiak Nov 16, 2017 6:19 PM

We all know that someday those skyscrapers are going to start inching their way West. :cheers:

NYguy Nov 17, 2017 1:16 AM

Isabelle

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TonyL Nov 17, 2017 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by fimiak (Post 7988199)
We all know that someday those skyscrapers are going to start inching their way West. :cheers:

Jersey? I never really got why there are no supertalls there now. I assumed zoning.

seadragon Nov 17, 2017 11:59 AM

Bulk Internal and Surface Ground Impedance (Z)
 
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Food for thought, but I'm curious what effect all of these tightly grouped buildings with large concrete (non conducting) mates and or tub foundations are having on the bulk internal and surface impedance (Z) of the ground and what if any RC (resistor*capacitor) time constant (tc) is being produced from all the densely placed structures.

I ask, having already noticed two rather interesting RC tc effects during a direct lighting strike of the Sears Tower and the Wheelock building in Shanghai.

i) lighting struck the upper most portion of the west, Sears Tower antenna mast, then approximately 0.5-1 second post the lighting strike, a second discharge event was observed spanning the upper portion of the two mast, similar in appearance to a discharging though position stationary, Jacobs Ladder. The event lasting about 0.5 second to complete and in that time, implied a voltage potential on the order of many millions of volts existed between the building itself and true, not relative, ground potential. It not being uncommon to see normal, relative ground potential on a building increase with height and routinely monitored by some hospitals.

ii) While standing outside in the rain and across the street from the nearly completed skeletal phase of the Wheelock building in Shanghai, observed the building tower crane get struck by lightning, the stored electric charge in the compartmentalized, steel structure taking about 1 second to discharge post the lightning strike. The tall, nearly topped out structure producing a loud sizzling noise while dissipating the electric charge and tc function relative to ground impedance (Z).

Thus, I am curious if and how much the surface impedance (Z) has changed in Chicago’s central loop and if there has been any effect on electrical discharge paths along with discharge time (RC tc) for much of the central loop is bulk concrete that is enclosed on three sides (N, E, W) with fresh water, the south direction being the only non restricted path.

Also, will buildings of the future, as urban areas become more dense, the large buildings produced with more non conducting (capacitating) materials, need for general safety, complex building grounding arrays though perhaps not as long as that configured about the former US Coast Guard, Loran-C transmitter building located in Haiku Valley, Oahu?

The large transmitter building being attached to many thick copper foil (~3.5" x 0.25") conductors that extended in multiple directions for ~1/5 mile. The building transmitting so much LW RF power that when standing next to the transmitter coils in the transmitter room, could easily hear without the aid of a radio receiver (naked ear) the Loran-C RF transmission and to which I still found to be pretty intense, I coming from high power weapons fire control radar background. One could hold the end of a long ceiling style florescent light bulb tube outside and it would glow on its own.

TonyL Nov 19, 2017 4:17 PM

Anyone know what the black building is directly across the street from CPT looking South?

chris08876 Nov 19, 2017 4:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TonyL (Post 7990931)
Anyone know what the black building is directly across the street from CPT looking South?

The ones with the Diamonds on the right (upper facade visible)? That's the Hearst Tower.

The two, twin towers on the left are the Time Warner Towers.

mrnyc Nov 20, 2017 3:00 PM

re isabelle's central park shot -- what's cool at this point in time is to see the stern tower finishing up and the nordstrom jumping up to it so quickly now and from so nearby.

NYguy Nov 21, 2017 4:53 PM

dansshots

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NYguy Nov 21, 2017 8:06 PM

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chris08876 Nov 24, 2017 11:33 PM

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NYguy Nov 27, 2017 3:41 AM

About 1:13 in the video...


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Video Link

NYguy Nov 27, 2017 12:25 PM

A peek from Extell's 66th Street tower...


https://www.wallpaper.com/architectu...st-66th-Street

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gramsjdg Nov 27, 2017 3:29 PM

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Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 7998520)

That render has more detail than anything we've been shown before, particularly on the upper floors. :cheers:

Prezrezc Nov 27, 2017 5:55 PM

^
Pleasant surprise that looks like a solid 600'-er.


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