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Vicelord John Apr 1, 2012 2:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Syndic (Post 5649358)
As a one-time Phoenix resident I feel at liberty to say that Phoenix has the worst downtown of any city its size in America. Maybe even the world. It's airy and suburban-looking and old. I blame your city government. They seriously need better vision and motivation.

Density, density, density, people. Look at Denver. They're way ahead of Phoenix.

Suburbs are gross! C'mon, guys.

We really appreciate your purely negative comments.

May god have mercy on your soul after you (hopefully) go kill yourself.

Leo the Dog Apr 1, 2012 2:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syndic (Post 5649358)
As a one-time Phoenix resident I feel at liberty to say that Phoenix has the worst downtown of any city its size in America. Maybe even the world. It's airy and suburban-looking and old. I blame your city government. They seriously need better vision and motivation.

Density, density, density, people. Look at Denver. They're way ahead of Phoenix.

Suburbs are gross! C'mon, guys.

This coming from a Texan resident, need I say more?!

Syndic Apr 1, 2012 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo the Dog (Post 5649411)
This coming from a Texan resident, need I say more?!

An Austin resident. People aren't moving here in droves for no reason.

I just read someone on here talking about the death of the "housing boom" as if it was a bad thing. Isn't "housing boom" just another word for building acres upon acres of putrid suburban garbage? The death of the housing boom is the best thing that ever happened to America. James Howard Kunstler calls suburbia "the biggest misallocation of resources in the history of the world".

Anyway, it didn't die. It just changed forms. It turned into a demand for urban living. But the people (in charge) in Phoenix apparently haven't caught on. Maybe because all the people voting for them are older snowbirds who think the suburbs are this wonderful paradise.

SunDevil Apr 1, 2012 7:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syndic (Post 5649358)
As a one-time Phoenix resident I feel at liberty to say that Phoenix has the worst downtown of any city its size in America. Maybe even the world. It's airy and suburban-looking and old. I blame your city government. They seriously need better vision and motivation.

Density, density, density, people. Look at Denver. They're way ahead of Phoenix.

Suburbs are gross! C'mon, guys.

You mean Denver, which had around 300,000 people in 1930 when Phoenix had around 60,000 is "way ahead"? I AM SHOCKED!

Vicelord John Apr 1, 2012 7:13 PM

why is this guy even garnering responses? He's an obvious troll who came out of nowhere to talk shit. He has some growing up to do, and should probably just kill himself now, before it's too late.

SunDevil Apr 1, 2012 7:17 PM

Some one should also remind him that Austin is, in fact, in Texas which makes him a Texan.

azliam Apr 1, 2012 7:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Syndic (Post 5649640)
An Austin resident. People aren't moving here in droves for no reason.

I just read someone on here talking about the death of the "housing boom" as if it was a bad thing. Isn't "housing boom" just another word for building acres upon acres of putrid suburban garbage? The death of the housing boom is the best thing that ever happened to America. James Howard Kunstler calls suburbia "the biggest misallocation of resources in the history of the world".

Anyway, it didn't die. It just changed forms. It turned into a demand for urban living. But the people (in charge) in Phoenix apparently haven't caught on. Maybe because all the people voting for them are older snowbirds who think the suburbs are this wonderful paradise.

Despite the fact that people are moving to Austin, it is merely a former shell of itself personality-wise (I used to live there). It's as though people caught on to how hip Austin was, only 20 years too late. I imagine you are one of those.

Syndic Apr 2, 2012 7:14 AM

Pretty sure I was born here. And Austin has improved, in my opinion. This is what we envision it looking like in 2030:

http://i.imgur.com/WQsZ4.jpg

Don't get defensive. Just take the criticism to heart and realize Phoenix needs a lot of work. "Housing booms" and suburbia are not the answer. Need to work on downtown.

Vicelord John Apr 2, 2012 7:16 AM

Why even bother criticizing? You came out of nowhere and started ranting.

You're a troll

hrivas Apr 2, 2012 8:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syndic (Post 5649358)
As a one-time Phoenix resident I feel at liberty to say that Phoenix has the worst downtown of any city its size in America. Maybe even the world. It's airy and suburban-looking and old. I blame your city government. They seriously need better vision and motivation.

Density, density, density, people. Look at Denver. They're way ahead of Phoenix.

Suburbs are gross! C'mon, guys.

Quote:

I just read someone on here talking about the death of the "housing boom" as if it was a bad thing. Isn't "housing boom" just another word for building acres upon acres of putrid suburban garbage? The death of the housing boom is the best thing that ever happened to America. James Howard Kunstler calls suburbia "the biggest misallocation of resources in the history of the world".

Anyway, it didn't die. It just changed forms. It turned into a demand for urban living. But the people (in charge) in Phoenix apparently haven't caught on. Maybe because all the people voting for them are older snowbirds who think the suburbs are this wonderful paradise.
suburbs are gross.
your enlightening criticism is, i am sure, taken to heart by everyone on this forum.

do you really think that any of us aren't aware of anything you have pointed out? really? phoenix is nowhere near ideal but there are some great people here doing some great things to improve it.

azliam Apr 2, 2012 8:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Syndic (Post 5650565)
Pretty sure I was born here. And Austin has improved, in my opinion. This is what we envision it looking like in 2030:

http://i.imgur.com/WQsZ4.jpg

Don't get defensive. Just take the criticism to heart and realize Phoenix needs a lot of work. "Housing booms" and suburbia are not the answer. Need to work on downtown.

Did you live there or experience it during the early 90's as an adult? I guess I was confused when you said you were a one-time Phoenix resident.

HooverDam Apr 2, 2012 8:35 PM

Who cares about Austin? I don't!

Lets talk about PHX, here's my pictures from the Modern PHX home tour:

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...97#post5651297

Don B. Apr 4, 2012 9:36 AM

A few pics of downtown I took from Phoenix School of Law's new space on the upper floors of the Phelps Dodge Tower, as I was there a few weeks ago to photograph an event for the school:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...age00001-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Image00002.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Image00003.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Image00004.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Image00005.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Image00006.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Image00007.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Image00008.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Image00009.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Image00010.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Image00011.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...Image00012.jpg

--don

dtnphx Apr 4, 2012 8:39 PM

Those are excellent shots, Don. You forget sometimes how far downtown has come until you see photos like these. Thank you for posting these.

Buckeye Native 001 Apr 8, 2012 5:52 AM

^Indeed. Great shots as always, Don!

I'll be in Downtown Phoenix for training/certification May 7 through the 18th.

By chance would anyone be interested in meeting up somewhere Downtown for dinner/drinks during the week(s) I'm down there? I should be free after 5pm on weeknights.

Vicelord John Apr 8, 2012 6:02 AM

I'll be downtown those nights

nickw252 Apr 8, 2012 3:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Buckeye Native 001 (Post 5658523)
By chance would anyone be interested in meeting up somewhere Downtown for dinner/drinks during the week(s) I'm down there? I should be free after 5pm on weeknights.

I'm downtown everyday, I'd be interested. What are you going to be there for? Btw, I too am a buckeye native.

Buckeye Native 001 Apr 8, 2012 6:02 PM

^Buckeye, AZ or the Buckeye State? I was born/raised in Cincinnati.

I'll be downtown for a two week probation officer training/certification run by the Arizona Administrative Office of the Courts. When all's said and done (provided I pass the exam) I'll be a certified probation officer in the State of Arizona.

I'm staying somewhere near the Arizona Center (forget the hotel name).

Vicelord John Apr 8, 2012 6:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Buckeye Native 001 (Post 5658779)
I'm staying somewhere near the Arizona Center (forget the hotel name).

SpringHill, Holiday Inn, Sheraton, Super8, Renaissance, or Hyatt.

Don B. Apr 8, 2012 8:05 PM

^ How about Friday night, May 11, around 7 pm? Meet at Cityscape?

Or Thursday night, May 10, if Friday is too busy for some peeps. :)

--don


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