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thenoflyzone Sep 28, 2017 7:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ACT7 (Post 7936148)
New services announced by AC out of YYZ and YUL:

From YYZ:
Zagreb, Bucharest, Porto - Rouge seasonal
Buenos Aires becomes non-stop on mainline and Santiago remains as a non-stop service

From YUL:
Bucharest and Lisbon - Rouge seasonal
Casablanca to transfer to mainline
Lima to be year round

https://aircanada.mediaroom.com/2017...isbon-Portugal

Nice announcement, although still waiting for a MAJOR announcement for YYZ, i.e. Johannesburg, Teheran, more India, and Asia.

Massive expansion from AC into Europe and South America

YUL-LIS 3x weekly B763
YUL-OTP 2x weekly B763
YUL-LIM 2x weekly year round instead of seasonal
YUL-CMN transfer to AC A333
YYZ-OTP 2x weekly B763
YYZ-ZAG 4x weekly B763
YYZ-OPO 4x weekly B763
YYZ-EZE goes non stop, instead of one stop via SCL.

That's and additional 17x weekly frequencies to Europe or South America for Rouge for S18.

So they will need 3 763s to operate all these new routes. YYZ-DUB and YUL-CMN getting converted to mainline frees up 2 763s. The third is probably a new frame transferred from mainline, bringing the total in the fleet to the contractual max of 25.

These new routes should max out the Rouge 767 fleet. Maybe room left for one route launch from YVR.

FFX-ME Sep 28, 2017 8:16 PM

Don't know if people care but I just found this very cool website which maps out all the destinations of a given airport, shows the airlines that service a given leg as well as the dates and times they are operated. Very interestingly, it also shows you some hidden legs such as Sunwing flights from St. John's to Moncton and Fredericton.

http://www.flightconnections.com/

thenoflyzone Sep 29, 2017 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FFX-ME (Post 7936434)
Don't know if people care but I just found this very cool website which maps out all the destinations of a given airport, shows the airlines that service a given leg as well as the dates and times they are operated. Very interestingly, it also shows you some hidden legs such as Sunwing flights from St. John's to Moncton and Fredericton.

http://www.flightconnections.com/

Yes, that's a very good website.

On another note, another 2 route changes that AC hasn't advertised:

YYZ-KEF and YUL-KEF are switching to mainline next summer. B737 Max 8.

AC812 YUL2345 - 0900+1KEF 7M8 257
AC813 KEF1000 - 1115YUL 7M8 136

AC816 YYZ2325 - 0900+1KEF 7M8 x257
AC817 KEF1000 - 1150YYZ 7M8 x136

Flights begin From June 1 and May 17 respectively, a few weeks earlier than this summer. These aircraft should rotate perfectly with the Ireland routes. AC will be able to do 1 to 2 domestic runs between YYZ and YUL with each frame during the down time here at home.

AC818 YUL2115 – 0825+1DUB 7M8 x257
AC819 DUB1020 – 1200YUL 7M8 x136

AC820 YYZ2200 – 0930+1SNN 7M8 x136
AC821 SNN1030 – 1245YYZ 7M8 x247

So I expect some Rouge A319 deployments across Canada or to the States come next summer.

Nicko999 Sep 30, 2017 5:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicko999 (Post 7911612)
How about Eastern Europe? There is a massive hole to be filled there. Judging by the massive Romanian community here, maybe Bucharest?

3 weeks late but glad AC listened to me:D

Quote:

Originally Posted by ACT7 (Post 7936148)
From YUL:
Bucharest
and Lisbon - Rouge seasonal
Casablanca to transfer to mainline
Lima to be year round


thenoflyzone Oct 2, 2017 1:33 PM

YYT-LHR goes Max as well.

Quote:

Air Canada in last week’s schedule update moved forward planned 737MAX 8 International service, as the new Boeing aircraft to serve St. John’s NFLD – London Heathrow route, from 01MAY18. This route in summer 2017 season is operated by Airbus A319 aircraft.

AC822 YYT2205 – 0635+1LHR 7M8 D
AC823 LHR1240 – 1450YYT 7M8 D
Source: http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/...from-may-2018/

SkahHigh Oct 3, 2017 12:02 AM

YUL August pax numbers

1,969,833 +11.2%

Domestic +9.7%

International +13.5%

Transborder +9.2%

January-August: 12,441,410 YTD, +9.6%

thenoflyzone Oct 3, 2017 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkahHigh (Post 7940306)
YUL August pax numbers

1,969,833 +11.2%

Domestic +9.7%

International +13.5%

Transborder +9.2%

January-August: 12,441,410 YTD, +9.6%

Almost 2 million for the month. Great result for YUL.

Transborder hit 400,000 pax/monthly for the first time i believe.

hollywoodcory Oct 3, 2017 5:14 PM

WS is adding Mexico City flights beginning in March from YYC and YVR.

YYC-MEX starts 4x weekly before going daily in late April.
YVR-MEX starts 3x weekly before going daily in late April.

FFX-ME Oct 3, 2017 5:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkahHigh (Post 7940306)
YUL August pax numbers

1,969,833 +11.2%

Domestic +9.7%

International +13.5%

Transborder +9.2%

January-August: 12,441,410 YTD, +9.6%

This is ridiculous growth! Montreal really wanted to put Calgary in its place since it had passed them, geez.

craneSpotter Oct 3, 2017 5:40 PM

^ Great growth for YUL.

YVR August 2017

Total: 2,531,401 (+8.3%)

DOMESTIC: 1,232,929 (+7.6%)
INTERNATIONAL (incl TB): 1,298,472 (+8.9)
Transborder: 617,452 (+9.5%)

nname Oct 3, 2017 6:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hollywoodcory (Post 7941107)
WS is adding Mexico City flights beginning in March from YYC and YVR.

YYC-MEX starts 4x weekly before going daily in late April.
YVR-MEX starts 3x weekly before going daily in late April.

Bloodbath! YVR-MEX is will have combined 5x daily in April?

Consider it was only 1x daily a bit more than a year ago...

wave46 Oct 3, 2017 6:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nname (Post 7941204)
Bloodbath! YVR-MEX is will have combined 5x daily in April?

Consider it was only 1x daily a bit more than a year ago...

Taking this thread in a different direction - having seen a few airlines collapse/ enter bankruptcy recently in Europe (airberlin, Monarch, Alitalia), what routes do you guys think are over saturated from Canada and likely to be downsized in the near future? I imagine that the current bull run of airport and airline growth will hit a peak in the near future.

speedog Oct 3, 2017 7:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FFX-ME (Post 7941120)
This is ridiculous growth! Montreal really wanted to put Calgary in its place since it had passed them, geez.

At triple the CMA population one would've expected such eons ago. Regardless, good for Montreal, now they can set their sights on YVR..

nephersir7 Oct 3, 2017 8:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedog (Post 7941291)
At triple the CMA population one would've expected such eons ago.

It's a matter of domestic traffic. Calgary's numbers are closer to Toronto than Montreal.

YTD 2017

Toronto: 9,793,888
Calgary: 7,650,580
Montreal: 4 613 522

Acajack Oct 3, 2017 8:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FFX-ME (Post 7941120)
This is ridiculous growth! Montreal really wanted to put Calgary in its place since it had passed them, geez.

Montrealers celebrating the news this afternoon:

http://www.kentucky.com/latest-news/...Wj6c.So.79.jpg

GlassCity Oct 3, 2017 8:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acajack (Post 7941381)
Montrealers celebrating the news this afternoon:

http://www.kentucky.com/latest-news/...Wj6c.So.79.jpg

:haha:

speedog Oct 3, 2017 8:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nephersir7 (Post 7941370)
It's a matter of domestic traffic. Calgary's numbers are closer to Toronto than Montreal.

YTD 2017

Toronto: 9,793,888
Calgary: 7,650,580
Montreal: 4 613 522

So?

LeftCoaster Oct 3, 2017 10:01 PM

Domestic passengers aren't real people.

wave46 Oct 3, 2017 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nephersir7 (Post 7941370)
It's a matter of domestic traffic. Calgary's numbers are closer to Toronto than Montreal.

YTD 2017

Toronto: 9,793,888
Calgary: 7,650,580
Montreal: 4 613 522

It's almost as if Calgary is the hub for a major Canadian airline that focuses almost exclusively on North American travel.

thenoflyzone Oct 3, 2017 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hollywoodcory (Post 7941107)
WS is adding Mexico City flights beginning in March from YYC and YVR.

YYC-MEX starts 4x weekly before going daily in late April.
YVR-MEX starts 3x weekly before going daily in late April.

Interesting adds. Better late than never i guess.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Acajack (Post 7941381)
Montrealers celebrating the news this afternoon:

Not much else to celebrate. The Impact wont make it to the playoffs, the Habs suck and so do the Al's.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wave46 (Post 7941227)
Taking this thread in a different direction - having seen a few airlines collapse/ enter bankruptcy recently in Europe (airberlin, Monarch, Alitalia), what routes do you guys think are over saturated from Canada and likely to be downsized in the near future? I imagine that the current bull run of airport and airline growth will hit a peak in the near future.

YVR-Europe down 0.2% in August must be concerning. Those extra flights next summer seem like too much if the already added capacity can't be absorbed. But then again, AC knows what they are doing.


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