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ethereal_reality Dec 7, 2021 8:07 PM

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https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/8exeQF.jpg
surfing-heritage


Meyers Butte


The swastika board is at far right.

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ethereal_reality Dec 7, 2021 8:23 PM

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You all - no doubt - are having a difficult time deciding what to get me for Christmas.



These Aimee Semple McPherson bookends would be perfect. :)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/DgHRyR.jpg
Bruce's wish list.



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GaylordWilshire Dec 7, 2021 11:08 PM

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Hope you get them. I'm sure Aimee would love you to have them. Merry Christmas.


Speak of swastikas--

I wouldn't usually post anything not having to do with LA but anyway...not LA but rather NYC--how this bit of parquet has survived in this 1840s Village brownstone in NYC continues to amazes me. (It's a friend place)

https://i.postimg.cc/2ySdZXmP/swastikagwenfloor.jpg

JimCraig Dec 7, 2021 11:17 PM

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You all - no doubt - are having a difficult time deciding what to get me for Christmas.



These Aimee Semple McPherson bookends would be perfect. :)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/8...924/DgHRyR.jpg
Bruce's wish list.



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No home should be without!

Joe Gillis Dec 8, 2021 7:36 AM

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Hope you get them. I'm sure Aimee would love you to have them. Merry Christmas.


Speak of swastikas--

I wouldn't usually post anything not having to do with LA but anyway...not LA but rather NYC--how this bit of parquet has survived in this 1840s Village brownstone in NYC continues to amazes me. (It's a friend place)

https://i.postimg.cc/2ySdZXmP/swastikagwenfloor.jpg

https://www.mylondon.news/news/east-...stika-20564717

We even put them on the Tube stations over here, but I digress

sopas ej Dec 8, 2021 9:43 PM

I might've mentioned this on this thread years ago, but many old Glendale lamp posts have swastikas:
https://i1.wp.com/hragvartanian.com/...2/img_3153.jpg
hragvartanian.com

Link: Glendale’s Odd Lamppost Swastikas

GatoVerde Dec 9, 2021 1:32 AM

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Originally Posted by sopas ej (Post 9471671)
I might've mentioned this on this thread years ago, but many old Glendale lamp posts have swastikas:
https://i1.wp.com/hragvartanian.com/...2/img_3153.jpg
hragvartanian.com

Link: Glendale’s Odd Lamppost Swastikas

The swastica was introduced to the Nazis as artwork on an essay about Geopolitik written by Karl Haushoffer. This occurred around the 1920s. Prior to this there is no meaningful German or Facsist association to the swastica. Haushoffer borrowed the icon and the name from Japanese Budhism.

GatoVerde Dec 9, 2021 2:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9470454)
Of course you're both correct.

The 'good luck' swastika is found on a wide variety of unlikely objects. . .

. . .like this 11 ft. surfboard.

"Pacific System(s) Homes was an early 20th century Los Angeles-based construction company that specialized in prefabricated houses. Meyers Butte, son of the owner, became hooked on surfing during a trip to Hawaii in the 1920s, and convinced his father to build a Pacific System Homes surfboard to market to local surfers. In the early 1930s, Pacific System Homes introduced the Swastika model surfboard, the first commercially produced surfboard line, so-named for the swastika design that marked each board. Although a symbol of harmony and good luck in various cultures around the world, the swastika disappeared from Pacific System Homes surfboards with the rise of Nazi Germany, and the company changed the name to Waikiki Surf-Boards in 1938. Pacific System Homes innovated the use of multi-wood laminates to lighten the board. This board is redwood-edged balsa held together by recently invented waterproof glues. The small swastika design is visible at the base of the tail."


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Link
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I think it is safe to assume that due to both the orientation of the swastika, and the era, that its use in this case was connected to Nazi use of the swastika, and not borrowed directly from Buddhist or other religion. There did exist supporters of Nazi Germany in the United States prior to World War II.

Earl Boebert Dec 9, 2021 3:06 AM

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Originally Posted by GatoVerde (Post 9471914)
I think it is safe to assume that due to both the orientation of the swastika, and the era, that its use in this case was connected to Nazi use of the swastika, and not borrowed directly from Buddhist or other religion. There did exist supporters of Nazi Germany in the United States prior to World War II.

Er, with respect: The Nazi swastika was pretty uniformly aligned 45 degrees on flags and emblems. The German-American Bund (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_American_Bund) followed suit.

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ethereal_reality Dec 9, 2021 8:49 PM

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Quite some time ago I happened upon this rare rppc (real photo postcard) of Tom Mix's vacation home on Catalina Island.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/vRh2eB.jpg
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If you look beneath the peak of the roof there is a triangular with the letter M. .and the M is no doubt for Mix!

but if you look closer there's some. .um. .jabberwockery going on. The sign, for whatever reason, appears to be dangling.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/timvVW.jpg

The left side of the sign is hanging in front of the eave support bracket and there appears to be a vertical rope at a slight angle running downward from the roof.
And lastly, the angle of the shadow on the right side of the sign is at a different angle than the angle of the sign.

ALSO. .it isn't just a M. There's also a T and a line running beneath the M so I believe it's styled like an old cattle brand.



This might help (or confuse :eeekk: )

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/ZZz6kl.jpg

Are you seeing what I'm seeing :shrug:


I just had a thought! Are the little round things lightbulbs?..Do you think the sign lit up?





WAIT, THERE'S MORE!


With help from odinthor, we found Tom Mix's home at 109 Maiden Lane in Avalon.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/H70jbF.jpg
GSV

And, if you look closely, Tom Mix's triangular sign is still there! ! !


Here's a closer look.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/JtW6B0.jpg
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Now, as you can see, the sign is secured to the side of the house.




& here it is from another angle.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...922/366EOB.jpg
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I wonder if someone in Mix's family still owns the home. (It's possible, I guess)

I could be wrong but I don't think it's common knowledge that Mix's Catalina home still exists. I wasn't able to find it advertised anywhere. . .say, as a Bed or Breakfast (with Mix's name as a marketing tool)


postscript:

The house was built in 1917. (hmm. . .was Tom Mix a star by then?)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/6...924/3A1nQs.jpg
realtor.com

Redfin values it at $946,183. ..(it's off market)
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Martin Pal Dec 9, 2021 9:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9472539)
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The house was built in 1917. (hmm. . .was Tom Mix a star by then?)
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I'd say so, his IMDB credits start in 1909!
166 of his 282 credits on IMDB are before 1917.

odinthor Dec 9, 2021 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 9472539)
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Quite some time ago I happened upon this rare rppc (real photo postcard) of Tom Mix's vacation home on Catalina Island.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/vRh2eB.jpg
ebay

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e_r, I find an intriguing fragment involving this, incomplete because Google only allows me a snippet; the “they” in the following appears to be Western author Zane Grey with his wife:

“They soon bought a house near Avalon harbor. Unfortunately, it happened to be directly behind Tom Mix's house. Mix was flamboyant, loud, and king of the movie western. Grey was taciturn, understated, and lord of the western novel. The two did not get along. When Mix showed up at the Catalina Tuna Club, Grey's holy […],” from Maverick Heart: The Further Adventures of Zane Grey, by Stephen May and Stephen J. May (2000).

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Edit add:

"directly behind" in the above quote is a bit of an overstatement:

https://i.postimg.cc/G2WBPvby/Zane.jpg
gsv, slightly altered for our purposes.

Noir_Noir Dec 10, 2021 12:38 PM

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It appears Zane Grey must have lived on Upper Olive Street directly behind Tom Mix's house for a while before building the pueblo.


Here's the complete extract from that book.


https://i.imgur.com/Kb8MNak.jpg
Archive.org - Maverick Heart: The Further Adventures of Zane Grey by Stephen J. May


As well as the raucous parties and flashing lights, Mix also angered Grey by having an access staircase to his house torn down.


https://i.imgur.com/SjkdLmi.jpg
Google Books - Zane Grey: His Life, His Adventures, His Women By Thomas H. Pauly

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Bristolian Dec 10, 2021 6:30 PM

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The description here sure makes it sound like the Catalina Tuna Club was a strong inspiration, both in location and atmosphere, for Noah Cross' Albacore Club in the film Chinatown.

A good compilation of Chinatown filming locations, including a mention of one Tovanger2 - http://movie-tourist.blogspot.com/20...town-1974.html

Godzilla Dec 11, 2021 4:53 PM

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I see that the dry cleaners is out of business................... :previous:..................Thanks, GatoVerde and odinthor.





I don't believe we have seen this photograph although I noticed there reprints for sale.


World's Largest Mail Box, South Los Angeles 1917

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/IRzukz.jpg
eBay sold


If we haven't seen it - or discussed it - then it's a whopper of a mystery!... (I'm pretty sure I would have remembered it)
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Martin Pal Dec 11, 2021 5:42 PM

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I tried searching for another possible post or reference about that on NLA and didn't find anything.

:cheers: Godzilla!

Wow, that post was 7 years ago! Searching mail delivery's been slow. :)

Flyingwedge Dec 12, 2021 3:37 AM

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It looks like "South Los Angeles" and the World's Largest Mailbox were somewhere just east of the 110/105 interchange,
around 117th Street and Main/Spring/Broadway (I'm not sure what happened to Moneta Avenue):

https://hosting.photobucket.com/imag...ent_-_1024.jpg

February 27, 1916, Los Angeles Times @ Newspapers.com

ethereal_reality Dec 12, 2021 3:54 AM

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That answers most, if not all, of our questions. .... Thanks FW!


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ethereal_reality Dec 12, 2021 4:29 AM

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How about a mystery location.

John Saxon at his rustic home somewhere in the Hollywood Hills. (the photo shoot was in 1959)

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/Uh9Pgq.jpg
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https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/ofAcIi.jpg
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https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/JQ8WIY.jpg
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Eventually, I happened upon the following two photograph that have ample clues.



Like the street number.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/Ne70Iv.jpg

1837





. .and his neighbor's names.

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/XCXy7X.jpg
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Sharnoff and Marks.

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ethereal_reality Dec 12, 2021 4:34 AM

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Here are several additional photographs taken inside the house.



https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...924/sTEbHz.jpg
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C O Z Y !






https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...922/6EIu9W.jpg
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https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1...923/rg4qAA.jpg
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