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muertecaza Oct 9, 2020 10:14 PM

The chatter about Novus got me poking around for more information, and a recent ABOR Board agenda included an update on the status. Mr.RE, your hope is coming true, it looks like we're going to get a lot more in the near future. Some highlights from the report:

Quote:

ASU and a creative office developer executed an option to lease on Phase IV, Parcel 4F at the end of August. The developer next will submit for entitlement approval from the Joint Review Committee for multiple creative office buildings, a prerequisite to close of escrow.

A Preliminary Takedown Notice (PTN) was approved for Phase V, Parcel 5F. Parcel 5F is comprised of approximately 5.5 acres located at the northwest corner of Rio Salado Parkway and Rural Road. The Novus master plan contemplates a mixed-use development consisting of office, multi-family residential and potential supporting retail uses. ASU has entered into a letter of intent and is negotiating an option to lease with a developer to develop Parcel 5F as a mixed-use development.

ASU also has entered into an option to lease with a developer on Parcel 3F. The developer plans to develop the property with approximately 200 micro units, an emerging segment within the multi-family residential asset class. The proposed development conforms to Novus use restrictions and provides an alternative product type and price point for future residents of Novus.

Planning for the proposed Multi-Purpose Arena (MPA) north of the Packard Drive Parking Garage amongst the 7-Series parcels created opportunities to plan distinctive pockets of retail, energize the planned open space/plaza adjacent to the arena and maximize development opportunities on the arena block. To address these opportunities, portions of the planned Novus Place and 3rd Street roadway alignments were revised as a minor adjustment to the Novus Master Plan.

ASU is finalizing construction documents [for the pedestrian bridge over University] and construction is scheduled to commence in November 2020 with substantial completion scheduled for December 2021.
So I guess that's confirmation that the multi-purpose arena is going to go just north of the parking garage on Packard. And a bunch of new development at various stages in the pipeline. The packet contains some preliminary renderings too:

https://i.imgur.com/XuLLRlSh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/QrepJ7Wh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ena3kWBh.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/QsGOmc1h.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/xSngSNdh.jpg

Full packet is here: https://public.azregents.edu/Board/2...Board-Book.pdf

Phxguy Oct 9, 2020 10:28 PM

https://m.facebook.com/SouthPierTemp...ernal&mt_nav=0

This ad came up on my FB page with renderings for Southpier. Looks pretty pie-in-the-sky if it all gets built but man what an incredible addition! I’m digging the Ferris wheel.

Mr.RE Oct 9, 2020 11:04 PM

Muerte - again THANK YOU:worship:

Great data here.

Mr.RE Oct 9, 2020 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Phxguy (Post 9069072)
https://m.facebook.com/SouthPierTemp...ernal&mt_nav=0

This ad came up on my FB page with renderings for Southpier. Looks pretty pie-in-the-sky if it all gets built but man what an incredible addition! I’m digging the Ferris wheel.

Does it list the name of the developer? I suspect this is just fluff to sell an idea/proposed plan to another group but I'm hopeful this is legit!

Phxguy Oct 10, 2020 6:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.RE (Post 9069118)
Does it list the name of the developer? I suspect this is just fluff to sell an idea/proposed plan to another group but I'm hopeful this is legit!

No developer name is listed on the site or the deadend CohenMcBride.com link.

https://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/...-up-steam.html

This article from June talks a bit more of the project. Contains a new rendering of a lake-side development with 400K sqft of office space as well. Just to be sure, Southpier and Pier 202 refer to the same development?

PHXFlyer11 Oct 10, 2020 4:36 PM

Wow. Those parcel 5 and South Pier Projects look absolutely amazing. I had been hoping someone would propose an actual pier for years. Would be amazing if this happened and we started to see a few others pop up with restaurants and games.

How about a Boardwalk Tempe? Maybe a nice L-shaped pier today maximize the space.

I would love to see The Pier and South Pier start a trend of higher-end Miami style condos that scale up as you move west to east. Create a sort of high-end luxury Tempe and maximize what’s left of the lakefront property.

The street car should help accelerate some of that development now.

The housing market is only strengthening so maybe some of these will happen.

Judging by the rendering, is the South Pier tower just phase one of a master plan? Or is that the only parcel they own and are just hoping other developers build towers on the other parcels?

asugrad Oct 12, 2020 3:09 PM

South Pier at Tempe Town Lake
 
This popped up as an ad on my Facebook yesterday! Is this related to one of the projects???

https://www.facebook.com/SouthPierTempe

PHXFlyer11 Oct 12, 2020 4:00 PM

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Originally Posted by asugrad (Post 9070678)
This popped up as an ad on my Facebook yesterday! Is this related to one of the projects???

https://www.facebook.com/SouthPierTempe

Dude, literally scroll up three posts. Someone already posted the same thing and we are talking about.

muertecaza Oct 12, 2020 4:45 PM

Looks like from the Tempe Development Map that there are some apartments planned for the narrow lot on the SWC of Curry/Miller, 1255 E. Curry:

https://gis.tempe.gov/pad/Developmen...res/Banyon.JPG

Even though it looks to be just more 4+1 apartments, it's good that there are more proposals filling in the backlog, it seems like there haven't been as many in Tempe lately. And interesting that someone is willing to put out a proposal on that side of the freeway, next to all the automotive businesses. It looks like this is just outside the county island, and technically within city limits. But I wouldn't be surprised to see that whole automotive area, including the county island, be apartments before too long.

azsunsurfer Oct 13, 2020 5:23 PM

Not sure how I feel about more surface parking fronting Rio Salado but I guess I rather have it there than fronting the lake...

PHXFlyer11 Oct 13, 2020 6:27 PM

Tempe Depot is on the DRC agenda for the end of the month. No link yet to the file, really hoping for improved design and renderings. Looked like total trash before. 18 and 17 story is what I believe I read on the agenda.

CrestedSaguaro Oct 13, 2020 7:08 PM

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Originally Posted by PHXFlyer11 (Post 9071740)
Tempe Depot is on the DRC agenda for the end of the month. No link yet to the file, really hoping for improved design and renderings. Looked like total trash before. 18 and 17 story is what I believe I read on the agenda.

Agree on the design. It's not so much the massive parking podium. I get the Tempe probably wants the additional parking for events. But that facade. :yuck:

skiesthelimit Oct 13, 2020 7:44 PM

10/13/20 Tempe Update
 
*WARNING PICTURE HEAVY*

Before I begin with today's update, enjoy these pics from the top of Watermark's parking garage I took last week (not sure if I was actually supposed to be up there lol) and one of the street car stations on Mill:



Here's a couple updates around the Novus/Apache area from earlier this morning (10/13/20):


muertecaza Oct 13, 2020 8:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PHXFlyer11 (Post 9071740)
Tempe Depot is on the DRC agenda for the end of the month. No link yet to the file, really hoping for improved design and renderings. Looked like total trash before. 18 and 17 story is what I believe I read on the agenda.

Yeah, I don't love it either, but I've sort of made my peace with it. No one in a position to have meaningful input seems to regard Rio Salado as a pedestrian thoroughfare that needs pedestrian-oriented design. Which is slightly surprising given that they are putting the street car there.

Diamonddave Oct 13, 2020 8:25 PM

Thanks for the pics interesting angles nice.

muertecaza Oct 13, 2020 8:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PHXFlyer11 (Post 9071740)
Tempe Depot is on the DRC agenda for the end of the month. No link yet to the file, really hoping for improved design and renderings. Looked like total trash before. 18 and 17 story is what I believe I read on the agenda.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrestedSaguaro (Post 9071802)
Agree on the design. It's not so much the massive parking podium. I get the Tempe probably wants the additional parking for events. But that facade. :yuck:

There is a packet for a presentation to the Historical Preservation Commission tomorrow, but it looks like the same renderings we've seen before:

https://www.tempe.gov/Home/ShowDocument?id=85779

And yeah, it's too bad because there is a lot I like about it, especially the plan to rehab and restore the train depot. Between Mesa's historic train depot burning down in the 80s and Phoenix's being stuck in telecom-storage-purgatory, I would really love it if Tempe's station could be restored, preserved and utilized. Even though I have a gut reaction not liking the parking looming over the light rail tracks, If I was deciding I'd probably still support the project as is as good enough all things considered.

PHXFlyer11 Oct 13, 2020 8:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by muertecaza (Post 9071921)
There is a packet for a presentation to the Historical Preservation Commission tomorrow, but it looks like the same renderings we've seen before:

https://www.tempe.gov/Home/ShowDocument?id=85779

And yeah, it's too bad because there is a lot I like about it, especially the plan to rehab and restore the train depot. Between Mesa's historic train depot burning down in the 80s and Phoenix's being stuck in telecom-storage-purgatory, I would really love it if Tempe's station could be restored, preserved and utilized. Even though I have a gut reaction not liking the parking looming over the light rail tracks, If I was deciding I'd probably still support the project as is as good enough all things considered.

I like all the retail and such, the hotel tower and podium are just so ugly and stubby. They should be using more glass and less of that brick facade to detract from the massive podium.

Why doesn't it say what they are doing with the station? It'd make a cool bar.

muertecaza Oct 13, 2020 9:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PHXFlyer11 (Post 9071969)
I like all the retail and such, the hotel tower and podium are just so ugly and stubby. They should be using more glass and less of that brick facade to detract from the massive podium.

Why doesn't it say what they are doing with the station? It'd make a cool bar.

I'm definitely here for any train-themed bar ideas :tup:

The packet I posted unfortunately doesn't have any info (surprising given that's it's for the historic preservation commission). There are ground floor spaces labelled as "retail," but the train station is just labelled "train depot structure." In my perfect world, they would use it as part of the development for now, but have some kind of an option to restore it to use as a train station if commuter rail along that section of the tracks every became a reality.

PHXFlyer11 Oct 13, 2020 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by muertecaza (Post 9071994)
I'm definitely here for any train-themed bar ideas :tup:

The packet I posted unfortunately doesn't have any info (surprising given that's it's for the historic preservation commission). There are ground floor spaces labelled as "retail," but the train station is just labelled "train depot structure." In my perfect world, they would use it as part of the development for now, but have some kind of an option to restore it to use as a train station if commuter rail along that section of the tracks every became a reality.

Yes, i looked through the packet. Thanks for posting, and saw that it doesn't say retail. Maybe it's TBD.

I won't see it as commuter per say, as that can be accomplished these days merely with ticket kiosks outside. Perhaps would need public restrooms.

There was a really cool train bar I went to to in Bethlehem, PA... cigar bar as well. Here's the link: http://www.thewoodenmatch.com/

ASUSunDevil Oct 14, 2020 12:11 AM

ISTB7 might end up being the coolest building in Tempe once it's finished :tup:

Thanks for the great pics, skiesthelimit!


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