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Streamliner Feb 22, 2024 6:19 PM

Yes Little Italy is definitely where the investment and people are nowadays. Hopefully East Village can start getting back to where it should be, but the homeless issue is really a deterrent for everyone out there.

Here's a snippet from the Whole Foods article:

Whole Foods Market planned for Front & A skyscraper project in downtown San Diego
BY JENNIFER VAN GROVE
FEB. 21, 2024 11:21 AM PT
Link to Article

https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/d...Fr-c-ne-02.jpg

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The high-end grocery tenant is set to take over roughly 50,000 square feet of ground-floor and mezzanine space at the base of the 34-story, residential tower, according to a permit application submitted to the city of San Diego in December.

Holland Partner Group’s Front & A high-rise, which is under construction, is expected to be completed in the second quarter of 2026 and is meant to complement the developer’s nearly finished West apartment and office complex just a block away.
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Front & A is described in architectural plans submitted to the city as a 343-foot-tall tower with commercial space and 450 residential units, 19 of which will be deed-restricted for very low-income families making 50 percent or less of the area median income. The building will have 693 parking spaces — 518 spaces reserved for residents and 175 spaces reserved for shoppers — spread across two levels of underground parking and six levels of above-ground, enclosed parking.

Jhanson312 Feb 23, 2024 12:13 AM

Speaking of East Village… is there any updates on the Tailgate Park development? I know they said groundbreaking wouldn’t commence until late 2024 to late 2025, but I’ve haven’t heard a peep about it in a long time.

JSW Feb 26, 2024 5:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Streamliner (Post 10149465)
Yes Little Italy is definitely where the investment and people are nowadays. Hopefully East Village can start getting back to where it should be, but the homeless issue is really a deterrent for everyone out there.

While East Village has more problems and dead areas than Little Italy, I wouldn't say it's very accurate to say that Little Italy is where the investment and people are. It's more of a split especially in terms of investment. There are just as much highrise housing development on both fronts if you look at the past 4-5 years - East Village is just a much larger area so it's not as concentrated. And it's also getting an incredible expensive park and community center - currently under construction. Little Italy definitely has the crowds for their restaurant scene though - no doubt about that.

Streamliner Feb 26, 2024 6:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JSW (Post 10152222)
While East Village has more problems and dead areas than Little Italy, I wouldn't say it's very accurate to say that Little Italy is where the investment and people are. It's more of a split especially in terms of investment. There are just as much highrise housing development on both fronts if you look at the past 4-5 years - East Village is just a much larger area so it's not as concentrated. And it's also getting an incredible expensive park and community center - currently under construction. Little Italy definitely has the crowds for their restaurant scene though - no doubt about that.

Yeah I was referring to the concentration of development in Little Italy. Though even then I think some of those projects in Columbia/Core are being advertised as Little Italy, which skews perceptions a bit.

Jhanson312 Feb 29, 2024 5:15 AM

Just wanted to say that The Lindley looks awesome. It with Simone, changes the skyline pretty dramatically when you’re on the 5 going south into downtown (Haven’t driven down there in ages). For the first time, it actually felt like I was driving into a major city.

JSW Feb 29, 2024 7:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jhanson312 (Post 10154571)
Just wanted to say that The Lindley looks awesome. It with Simone, changes the skyline pretty dramatically when you’re on the 5 going south into downtown (Haven’t driven down there in ages). For the first time, it actually felt like I was driving into a major city.

1st and Beech will probably have the most dramatic impact. It'll only be a bit over 200ft, but it will look more prominent from that angle due to the location. Front and A will also flesh things out even more from that perspective.

aekrid Mar 1, 2024 10:34 PM

The Lindley looks close to topping out soon. Should be working on the 37th floor.
https://i.imgur.com/uvUhG96.jpeg

Columbia and A crane is up, foundation might happen soon.
https://i.imgur.com/B0osagv.jpeg

dirt patch Mar 7, 2024 2:49 AM

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Originally Posted by mello (Post 10140177)
Early 2025 for groundbreaking of Ball Park storage? Um I hope that is a typo. This development has been approved for what a year and a half now? I hope it is more like early 2024 to this summer ground breaking. By early 2025 there could be major economic problems with the commercial real estate and banking sectors.

A tall building in that spot will somewhat make up for the absence of 7th and Market for skyline affect. I am still so mad that the Ritz never materialized such a blow to skyline potential and urban impact on that part of DT.

Does anyone find it strange that downtown LA had so many towers built by Chinese money and SD got zero? You would have thought they would look 100 miles south and say oh here is another booming urban zone that is open to highrise development. San Diego must be on their radar with so many of the elites children going to UCSD lol :haha:

And Downtown San jose got 4 high rises built by Chinese money.

dirt patch Mar 7, 2024 3:06 AM

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Originally Posted by mello (Post 10140177)
Early 2025 for groundbreaking of Ball Park storage? Um I hope that is a typo. This development has been approved for what a year and a half now? I hope it is more like early 2024 to this summer ground breaking. By early 2025 there could be major economic problems with the commercial real estate and banking sectors.

A tall building in that spot will somewhat make up for the absence of 7th and Market for skyline affect. I am still so mad that the Ritz never materialized such a blow to skyline potential and urban impact on that part of DT.

Does anyone find it strange that downtown LA had so many towers built by Chinese money and SD got zero? You would have thought they would look 100 miles south and say oh here is another booming urban zone that is open to highrise development. San Diego must be on their radar with so many of the elites children going to UCSD lol :haha:

Don't pity this downtown since the Canadian developers and Holland Partner fell in love with your downtown and put so much money investing and building in your downtown. I wish Downtown SJ would get some love from the Canadian developers. They build towers regardless of the costs and market conditions. Downtown San Jose got some development from different developers from England, China, LA, locals and perhaps Westbank from Vancouver which is now rehabbing the landmark Bank of Italy building. Since Dt. SJ has fewer development than your downtown, it has been creative by adding a lot of cool entertainment, nightlife, art and murals. It also focused on mid rises to fill out the downtown, and it's working nicely since it's the second or third most recovered downtown in the country. You guys should consider your downtown is so lucky to have these Canadian and Pacific Northwest developers as your downtown's best partner; otherwise, say "hello to 1978 downtown again." Most other downtowns are not as lucky as your downtown in terms of seeing quite a few high rises getting underway in the middle of the downturn for real estate nationwide.

Streamliner Mar 8, 2024 6:48 PM

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Originally Posted by aekrid (Post 10156022)
The Lindley looks close to topping out soon. Should be working on the 37th floor.
https://i.imgur.com/uvUhG96.jpeg

This shot makes it look like the Lindley has a slight taper. I like it but I'm pretty sure it's just the camera lens.

aekrid Mar 11, 2024 5:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Streamliner (Post 10160619)
This shot makes it look like the Lindley has a slight taper. I like it but I'm pretty sure it's just the camera lens.

It's just the perspective.
Also anybody have any idea what's goin on at 5th/Ash. Parking lot has been torn up and looks like they are driving piles down, far more work than I'd expect for a simple lot repavement. No info online.

TimeToBuild Mar 11, 2024 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by aekrid (Post 10162219)
It's just the perspective.
Also anybody have any idea what's goin on at 5th/Ash. Parking lot has been torn up and looks like they are driving piles down, far more work than I'd expect for a simple lot repavement. No info online.

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...ns-cortez-hill


New Hotel

dirt patch Mar 21, 2024 12:24 AM

Bosa will build Symphony condo tower instead of apt.. https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...-become-condos

Streamliner Mar 21, 2024 5:40 PM

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Originally Posted by dirt patch (Post 10169180)
Bosa will build Symphony condo tower instead of apt.. https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...-become-condos


Downtown 40-story apartment project changes course, will become condos

BY PHILLIP MOLNAR
MARCH 20, 2024

https://ca-times.brightspotcdn.com/d...13b%2Fbosa.jpg

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An apartment complex being built in downtown San Diego is changing course nearly two years into its construction and will now become condos.
British Columbia-based developer Bosa Development submitted plans this week to change the 40-story apartment building into a 389-unit condominium tower. Bemi Jauhal, a vice president at Bosa, said the decision was made because the company believed condominiums would deliver a better return on investment than apartments and therefore saw the change as a good opportunity.

“There is a lack of condo supply” in downtown San Diego, she said.

Construction started on the project in 2022, and it remains a big hole in the ground at the moment. Work at the site, near the Symphony Towers building on B Street, has been paused for several months as Bosa applies for new permits.
My question is how tall is this building? The Downtown Activity Map states 503 feet, but that can't be correct. I assume it's 503 above sea level but I'd like to know the exact height above ground.

Charmy2 Mar 21, 2024 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Streamliner (Post 10169680)
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My question is how tall is this building? The Downtown Activity Map states 503 feet, but that can't be correct. I assume it's 503 above sea level but I'd like to know the exact height above ground.

I assume it's 503 above sea level because San Diego has some pretty strict FAA laws but if my some miracle it is the actual height, San Diego might be getting a new tallest building. I'm so glad at least one major city in California is having a ton of high-rises actively under construction!

Will O' Wisp Mar 22, 2024 8:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Charmy2 (Post 10170012)
I assume it's 503 above sea level because San Diego has some pretty strict FAA laws but if my some miracle it is the actual height, San Diego might be getting a new tallest building. I'm so glad at least one major city in California is having a ton of high-rises actively under construction!

Sadly no, the twin towers at 15th and J are already 520 feet above sea level. A good portion of that are a set of cranes on both towers though, the roofline is just a hair over 500 feet MSL iirc.

Was an unusual set of circumstances that lead to that actually. Previously the Symphony Towers had been the highest buildings in downtown, but midway through design the engineers in the twin towers discovered a fault line splitting the lot in two. They ended up having to shrink the ground footprint of both towers, and make them a tad bit taller.

That ended up pushing the height above sea level above Symphony, which meant they had to do some extra aviation safety studies, something the developers had been hoping to avoid. But all's well that ends well I suppose.

JSW Mar 22, 2024 4:27 PM

Do we know if the conversion to condos will have further implications beyond change of floor plans and layout? Surely it's not any massing changes since they've already started laying the groundwork?

I live close to the site, so I'm eager to watch construction resume and see the neighborhood further densify :cheers:

Jhanson312 Mar 23, 2024 2:41 AM

Looks like West Chula Vista finally will see more development.

https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/loc...front/3469282/

superfishy Mar 27, 2024 8:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jhanson312 (Post 10170847)
Looks like West Chula Vista finally will see more development.

https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/loc...front/3469282/

"With MountainWest Real Estate of Chula Vista as the primary developer, the Bayview Point project is designed to include a 22-story apartment tower with 288 apartments, a 19-story residential tower with 216 apartments, and a 400-room hotel with 37 for-sale condominium units on the top floor of the 24-story building."

https://www.sdbj.com/featured/900m-b...o-chula-vista/

Splosivo945 Mar 29, 2024 4:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JSW (Post 10170451)
Do we know if the conversion to condos will have further implications beyond change of floor plans and layout? Surely it's not any massing changes since they've already started laying the groundwork?

I live close to the site, so I'm eager to watch construction resume and see the neighborhood further densify :cheers:

I'd heard that they were trying to reduce the parking footprint in favor for more units as they'd now be entitled to the newer transit proximity bonus


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