Canada needs to start being a big boy country with big boy rules, our 'politeness' is highly annoying. Unless you have an emergency, you should be ticketed for stopping on the side of the highway.

I'm surprised no one's been killed on the highway in Jasper, in the summer is common to see many cars barely pulled onto the shoulder, kids running around all over the place as they take pictures of the big horn sheep, as convoys of traffic try to make it past them

I see why large semi's will lay on the air horn as they roll through these pop up tourist stops. It gets ridiculous and adds a ton of time for those of us just trying to get through to BC

The lower mainland has 16 times the population of the Kootenays, where's our 32 lane highway?! :tup:

Ha well one day if you ever need it I'm sure funding will be there.

If widening Second Narrows is already a hard sell, I highly doubt it. :???:

We cancelled widening our main highway from 4 to 6 lanes between Langley and Abbotsford... so yeah, thinking the widest we will ever see in BC is the #1 on and near the Port Mann Bridge (I am actually okay with that, but we do need more 6 and 8 lane roads, especially if we want proper HOV lanes and rapid bus services).

If anything gets the funding it would be the #1 on the coast is what I meant. We don't get back what we put into the provincial coffers. A bit of an Interior beef we all have. ;)

I think BC does a pretty good job on the secondary highways in BC. The lack of dedicated passing lanes notwithstanding, the roads themselves tend to be in pretty good shape.. especially given the terrain in most of the interior, far superior to the secondary highways in Alberta anyways

And don't forget all those ferries... BC has a pretty impressive network of interior water crossings that are all free to use. My favorite part of the trip to the Nelson area is taking the Kootenay Lake ferry. In a week we're headed down that way for a couple days and we have a cottage in Harrop. SO we'll be making good use of the Harrop Proctor ferry as well.

Meanwhile, can anyone confirm whether twinning of TCH in the eastern end of Yoho National Park is done?

BC has a lot fewer roads than Alberta. There aren't really any secondary roads in the province in that you generally only have one or two options when traveling between towns. Much of the good highways are living on the legacy of Flyin' Phil Gaglardi from 40 years ago. Now that the NDP is in charge, the construction of highway projects will become almost non-existent. Mark my words. We will slip behind.

BTW:

https://www.revelstokereview.com/opi...-this-century/

Unfortunately, with the way that BC (or Canada in general) does this kind of things, it will just drag on to centuries.

I have always wondered about this:
Since the terrain around TCH is mostly mountainous, is it better if the province spends all the money blasting rocks first, then worries about putting in the lanes later?

CP Rail has two tunnels that bypass Rogers Pass.

Why doesn't the government dig a four lane tunnel under the Pass and alleviate all the issues of trying to go over the top?

Lack of ambition? They should copy the French and toll the whole trans Canada network in exchange for building it in a non rinky dink fashion.

That’s just gonna force traffic onto Yellowhead and Crownest. In the case of Ontario, that will mean a party never elected to power again. :haha:

If it was done properly, you'd have a substantial network so the only way to avoid it would be to take back routes. Rather than disproportionately tolling the expensive parts, toll the whole thing so that someone travelling 1000km across the prairies subsidizes the tunnels in the Rockies.

I'd be fine with a toll somewhere between Revelstoke and Golden to recoup the cost of a significant upgrade to that section of highway. Just like the Coquihalla, people will pay a marginal fee to save a lot of time and travel on a proper highway.

IMO, it's fairer and better to toll an entire network. The economic activity of the trucks and cars between Winnipeg and Calgary are just as important as those between Calgary and Vancouver, but by geographic fortune one of those routes is far cheaper to service well than the other.

If we're gonna toll just a section of TCH, it'll be the 4 km in Kicking Horse Canyon. $1B for 4 km! Man I've never heard of something this expensive.

I'd be fine with tolls throughout the highway as long as there is some value there... IE if it's still a rinky-dink 2 lane road around the great lakes I wouldn't expect there to be a toll on it. Upgrade it to modern standards then absolutely.

It is a tricky piece of highway.

I would not want a toll east of Golden because that effectively cuts off Golden from Calgary. People in small towns shouldn't have to pay a toll to access larger city amenities, so it'd be punitive to residents of Golden. Revelstoke residents can travel to Kamloops or Kelowna so they wouldn't be impacted either. Yes the Kickinghorse section is the worst and most expensive but all the way west to Canoe there are upgrades required. I'd say Glacier would be a natural place for a toll