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LouisVanDerWright May 16, 2015 3:23 AM

^^^ Two more at most. I wouldn't be surprised to see it by 2030. The North side is simply running out of room.

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Originally Posted by pilsenarch (Post 7005394)
clearly you are not an architect...

Apparently neither is Jeanne Gang :shrug:. It's not like aesthetics are the most subjective thing ever or anything...

pilsenarch May 16, 2015 1:17 PM

^ I was referring to having an ability to discuss it objectively... that's the whole point, otherwise we are just talking preferences.... BTW, it's totally fine with me if your favourite color is Gang...

marothisu May 16, 2015 2:53 PM

No matter what you think, a large part of architecture and how people view structures it is completely subjective. There's no right or wrong answer to whether a building looks good or bad. I happened to not like the Prentice Women's building - other people liked it - so what?

rlw777 May 16, 2015 4:07 PM

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Originally Posted by marothisu (Post 7029621)
No matter what you think, a large part of architecture and how people view structures it is completely subjective. There's no right or wrong answer to whether a building looks good or bad. I happened to not like the Prentice Women's building - other people liked it - so what?

Art and architecture are not completely subjective. Criticism cannot exist if there aren't approaches that are more successful than others. In other words while its not as simple as right vs wrong there are answers that are more right or more wrong.

marothisu May 16, 2015 4:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rlw777 (Post 7029671)
Art and architecture are not completely subjective. Criticism cannot exist if there aren't approaches that are more successful than others. In other words while its not as simple as right vs wrong there are answers that are more right or more wrong.

I'm not talking about materials, ways to construct, etc. That is science - no shit. One can easily argue about using the right or wrong materials, the right or wrong ways to construct a building, the right or wrong angles to serve specific function, etc.

I'm talking specifically about aesthetic. Just because I think a building looks good or like shit does not mean that it is the right or wrong opinion.

Chicago Shawn May 16, 2015 4:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ChickeNES (Post 7029310)
Right on cue:

http://i.imgur.com/QyciO3zl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/QyciO3z.jpg

Looks like Michels Construction, who did the caissons at River Point, will be handling the job here.

:awesome::awesome::awesome:

This deserves the dancing banana! Definitely among my most anticipated construction starts this year, primarily because of the long fight to get to this point. The design is great, but was better before the cantilevers were VE'd out.

spyguy May 16, 2015 6:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Chicago Shawn (Post 7029678)
:awesome::awesome::awesome:

This deserves the dancing banana! Definitely among my most anticipated construction starts this year, primarily because of the long fight to get to this point. The design is great, but was better before the cantilevers were VE'd out.

What do you mean? I believe this is the current design:

http://i62.tinypic.com/34f1s2v.jpg

LouisVanDerWright May 16, 2015 6:22 PM

I think he means that version's recesses and cantilevers are less pronounced than the first iteration of the design. There seems to be a clear bit of VE'ing of those details.

aaron38 May 16, 2015 6:56 PM

It's hard to tell from the map, but is Vue53 going on land that belongs to Nichols Park?
Was that always private land or do I have the wrong lot?

Edit: it's on the north side of 53rd. I though it was on the south side, which is park.

the urban politician May 16, 2015 7:15 PM

^ I think it was once a gas station, right?

Chicago Shawn May 16, 2015 8:03 PM

^Mobil Gas Station and a car wash, plus an empty lot which used to be a McDonald's.

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Originally Posted by LouisVanDerWright (Post 7029790)
I think he means that version's recesses and cantilevers are less pronounced than the first iteration of the design. There seems to be a clear bit of VE'ing of those details.

Yes, that is what i was referring too.

sentinel May 16, 2015 8:55 PM

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Originally Posted by spyguy (Post 7029785)
What do you mean? I believe this is the current design:

http://i62.tinypic.com/34f1s2v.jpg

I love the way the final rendering looks, wasn't really a fan of the earlier iteration.

BVictor1 May 17, 2015 3:12 AM

A little birdie to me not to count Solstice out of the game and that it "is shining, in its original sunny shaded design." That's all I know... That's all I know.

the urban politician May 17, 2015 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BVictor1 (Post 7030093)
A little birdie to me not to count Solstice out of the game and that it "is shining, in its original sunny shaded design." That's all I know... That's all I know.

^ Interesting, although Solstice has "not been out of the game" for about 7 or 8 years now. It's one of those things where I'll believe it when I see it...

sentinel May 17, 2015 4:01 PM

In BVic I Trust - he's always been pretty spot on before. Plus, Hyde Park is smoking hot right now and I'm certain it's ripe for additional development news in the future. I personally can't wait to sell my place and get the hell outta Lakeview - Chicago is still my number 1 choice of cities, and with that, I'm only planning on Hyde park as my next hood.

LouisVanDerWright May 17, 2015 4:34 PM

Yeah, Hyde Park has been pretty incredible lately, it seems to be the only neighborhood outside of downtown with significant numbers of large, highrise, new construction projects going on.

the urban politician May 17, 2015 4:45 PM

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Originally Posted by LouisVanDerWright (Post 7030324)
Yeah, Hyde Park has been pretty incredible lately, it seems to be the only neighborhood outside of downtown with significant numbers of large, highrise, new construction projects going on.

Well there certainly has been pent up demand. During the last boom, I don't believe a single highrise was built in Hyde Park (outside of the University). Remarkable that that was even possible, if you ask me. Must've been the NIMBYs

SamInTheLoop May 18, 2015 4:55 PM

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Originally Posted by the urban politician (Post 7029354)
Hell yes!

How many real estate cycles until there is continuous development between the S Loop and Hyde Park? Sam wanna take crack at it?

As few as 2 to as many as 4??......


And,

:cheers:

to Vue53's groundbreaking!!

the urban politician May 18, 2015 5:09 PM

^ 4 real estate cycles? Bloody hell, mate! I'll be an old man

brian_b May 19, 2015 4:50 PM

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Originally Posted by the urban politician (Post 7031053)
^ 4 real estate cycles? Bloody hell, mate! I'll be an old man

It wont be that long. U of C is offering employee down payment assistance all the way up to I-55. There's a field house under construction at Ellis Park at 35th. A new pedestrian bridge also on 35th. Drive around the Kenwood historic district and you see evidence of a lot of interior renovations on the old mansions. A new Marianos on 39th. Infill here and there.

Lake Meadows and Michael Reese are the big questions and will probably be the final push.

Perceptions of safety are changing. I see women jogging alone on 31st street every day. Northsiders will be the last to know.


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