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Airboy Jul 20, 2015 4:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigtime (Post 7101336)
It should have read "Capital of the People's Republic of Albertastan".

I have the Tshirt to go with this.

Anyway. A lot of american media outlets have used the State of Alberta line as well.

esquire Jul 20, 2015 4:45 PM

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Originally Posted by The Fisher Account (Post 7101382)
Is there a reason we call them 'provinces' and not 'states'?

In a nutshell, historically Canada's provinces were provinces of the British Empire and eventually became part of an initially highly centralized country. "Province" would have been a much more apt description then.

SkydivePilot Jul 20, 2015 5:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Airboy (Post 7101413)
I have the Tshirt to go with this.

Anyway. A lot of american media outlets have used the State of Alberta line as well.

Hahaha!!! The timing is impeccable. What's next? Lol!

SkahHigh Jul 20, 2015 6:00 PM

The funniest part is, they use provinces in China as well. Basically, they probably thought we divided our country exactly like the U.S.

thenoflyzone Jul 22, 2015 1:51 PM

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Originally Posted by casper (Post 7097000)
That transit system (ok lets call it what it is a glorified dedicate golf cart roadway) looks labor intensive and a little over the top. Does anyone else do this?

Not that i know of, at least not in such a way. Some airports use golf carts to transport people that might have a difficulty walking, such as the elderly, but it's done on a ad hoc basis.

And i agree that it is a little over the top. Most of the new terminal is over the top, but YYC is planning for the long term, which is nice to see, as plenty of airports across Canada simply play catch up when it comes to airport infrastructures.

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Originally Posted by hoboman27 (Post 7098894)
not sure who else does it, but man I can't imagine the amount of money spent on running this program (labor and maintenance)

Wouldn't be surprised if they remove it entirely and just use the space as other airports do. That is, high speed moving walkways.

It's not as if they have miles to walk to the gates anyways! YYZ and YUL have longer piers than this.

SkahHigh Jul 22, 2015 2:13 PM

^yeah the high speed walkways at YUL and YYZ are a blessing. That is a good investment.

TorontoDrew Jul 22, 2015 3:13 PM

Which was the airport that added the sad golf cart people mover system with the ROW?

MalcolmTucker Jul 22, 2015 3:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TorontoDrew (Post 7103676)
Which was the airport that added the sad golf cart people mover system with the ROW?

Calgary.

I am sure something akin to this was the condition WestJet put on the project. Sure, they would have loved an automated people mover, but cost considerations come into play. Also it means not creating another layer of the airport to access via elevators.

Bigtime Jul 22, 2015 3:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MalcolmTucker (Post 7103687)
Calgary.

I am sure something akin to this was the condition WestJet put on the project. Sure, they would have loved an automated people mover, but cost considerations come into play. Also it means not creating another layer of the airport to access via elevators.

I could see that too, the distance from WestJet's current pier A all the way over to the new terminal is quite substantial.

casper Jul 23, 2015 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigtime (Post 7103719)
I could see that too, the distance from WestJet's current pier A all the way over to the new terminal is quite substantial.

Best option is to refurbish the pier currently used for US departures and WestJet using it as its primary pier and A as overflow. Despite the fact that Pier A is most impressive of all three of the old piers.

Johnny Aussie Jul 24, 2015 1:23 PM

Canadian Airport Cargo Stats for 2014
 
Stats Canada has just released the 2014 Canadian Airport cargo stats.

YVR had by far the largest growth of the major airports in terms of total tonnage increase and % increase. YVR was up over 22,000 tonnes and up about 11.4%. YYZ was the only other major airport showing significant growth. YYZ was up over 10,000 tonnes. YUL and YMX were the only airports to record declines. YHZ overtook YEG to be in 8th place.

Here is the list (total tonnes for 2014):

YYZ 356,448 up ~ 10,100
YVR 217,201 up over 22,000
YHM 88,983 up ~ 2,400
YYC 84,994 up ~ 1,400
YUL 76,748 down ~ 200
YMX 64,148 down ~ 100
YWG 61,228 up ~ 900

....then quite a big gap for the rest of the top 10.....

YHZ 28,688 up ~ 1,100
YEG 27,624 up ~ 400
YQM 21,262 up ~ 1,500

Tables can be found here...

http://www5.statcan.gc.ca/cansim/a26...ataTable&csid=

esquire Jul 24, 2015 2:31 PM

^ Hammer is up there, impressive. I'd expect YVR to have more given its prime location on the West Coast.

MonctonRad Jul 24, 2015 2:49 PM

Glad to see Moncton (YQM) there, and we had the 4th largest increase too!

:banana::banana::banana:

And this wouldn't even include the recent Kelowna Flightcraft expansion to YQM either (new 4X weekly DC-10 service to Brussels-Liege and daily service to Toronto-Pearson). Expect another healthy increase for the next set of stats. :)

Denscity Jul 24, 2015 3:42 PM

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Originally Posted by esquire (Post 7106066)
^ Hammer is up there, impressive. I'd expect YVR to have more given its prime location on the West Coast.

YVR does have more. It's only half of Toronto's population but way more than half of Toronto's cargo. And it had by far the hugest increase in both tonnage and percentage. What else do you want?

thegx Jul 24, 2015 3:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie (Post 7105959)
Stats Canada has just released the 2014 Canadian Airport cargo stats.

YVR had by far the largest growth of the major airports in terms of total tonnage increase and % increase. YVR was up over 22,000 tonnes and up about 11.4%. YYZ was the only other major airport showing significant growth. YYZ was up over 10,000 tonnes. YUL and YMX were the only airports to record declines. YHZ overtook YEG to be in 8th place.

Here is the list (total tonnes for 2014):

YYZ 356,448 up ~ 10,100
YVR 217,201 up over 22,000
YHM 88,983 up ~ 2,400
YYC 84,994 up ~ 1,400
YUL 76,748 down ~ 200
YMX 64,148 down ~ 100
YWG 61,228 up ~ 900

....then quite a big gap for the rest of the top 10.....

YHZ 28,688 up ~ 1,100
YEG 27,624 up ~ 400
YQM 21,262 up ~ 1,500

Tables can be found here...

http://www5.statcan.gc.ca/cansim/a26...ataTable&csid=

The bigger gap is from 2 to 3 not 7 to 8, but however you want to spin it...:tup:

esquire Jul 24, 2015 4:03 PM

^ Geez you guys are touchy with airport cargo stats

Denscity Jul 24, 2015 4:16 PM

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Originally Posted by esquire (Post 7106244)
^ Geez you guys are touchy with airport cargo stats

Ya maybe but should YVR be equal with YYZ? YVR is doing just fine more like where is YUL?

q12 Jul 24, 2015 4:26 PM

Halifax (YHZ) was 32,000 in 2014

Source HIAA: http://hiaa.ca/2015/05/record-passen...fax-stanfield/

MonctonRad Jul 24, 2015 5:07 PM

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Originally Posted by q12 (Post 7106289)
Halifax (YHZ) was 32,000 in 2014

Source HIAA: http://hiaa.ca/2015/05/record-passen...fax-stanfield/

Well, we can't let q12 post stats suggesting that YHZ is that more important than YQM without a response. :)

Moncton (YQM) was actually 24,905 in 2014

Quote:

http://www.cyqm.ca/en/home/aboutus/n...ficin2014.aspx
February 19, 2015
DIEPPE, NB – Cargo traffic at the Greater Moncton International Airport (GMIA) saw a healthy increase once again in 2014, continuing a positive overall trend for New Brunswick’s fastest-growing and busiest airport.

Cargo tonnage from carriers such as C.A.L. Cargo Airlines, the newest addition to the cargo business in our region, flying in weekly with their Boeing 747 during lobster fishing season, Bluebird, Cargojet, EVAS, FedEx, Purolator, UPS, Skylink and WestJet Cargo increased by 3% to 24,905 metric tonnes compared to 24,172 in 2013 and 22,832 in 2012.
:runaway:

Johnny Aussie Jul 24, 2015 9:32 PM

These are the numbers reported by Stats Canada.

Local airport authorities post their own figures. But YVR seems to be the only Canadian airport that publicly reports cargo figures on a monthly basis.

YVR in 2014 reported 256,000 tonnes of cargo handled. A much larger number than Stats Canada. In 2015 YVR cargo is up another 11.8% YTD to May compared to 2014.

I don't see how I was spinning these figures. My point is the top seven airports appear to have significant cargo operations and then a large gap to the next three, which are relatively very small, to round out the top ten.


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