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Denscity Sep 4, 2014 7:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coldrsx (Post 6716463)
High five YVR @ 8.1%

Cheers and high five to YEG for 8.1% growth.

wacko Sep 4, 2014 7:16 PM

Indeed, if we go by the Australian experience, we can deregulate domestic air travel for lower prices if we're prepared to lose a good chunk of our domestic carriers and regional routes.

Klazu Sep 6, 2014 4:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie (Post 6718891)
YUL has released its July figures.

YTD YVR has exceeded YUL for the first time in total International Passengers (including transborder of course) by ~ 45,500. Not sure if that will continue but that is pretty impressive for tiny little Vancouver. One can argue two separate sub-groups of numbers but at the end of the day all these passengers are flying international. And YUL has a MUCH more significant sun destination network!

:cheers:

Policy Wonk Sep 6, 2014 8:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster (Post 6716840)
Another effect has been the near total financial ruin of their flag carrier.

I would make that trade happily.

SkahHigh Sep 6, 2014 3:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ACT7 (Post 6716626)
I would agree with you that YUL offers substantial service to the Middle East compared to most North American airports, but I'll have to disagree with you on the fact that it's more than YYZ.. YYZ has far more capacity to the Middle East than YUL. Emirates 380, Etihad 77W, AC and El Al to Tel Aviv, Saudi 77W, Egyptair 77W. And if you categorize Cairo as Africa, combined with Ethiopian, YYZ would be a close second in capacity to YUL for service to Africa. Kenya Airways is also expected to start service to YYZ next year using 77L's.

I personally never thought/said that YUL offered more service to the Middle East than YYZ. For that region, YUL has carriers that aren't present anywhere else in Canada just like YYZ with Egyptair, El Al, etc. It's all about population diversity. Montreal has a bigger population of North African origin, so obviously some carriers like RAM, Air Algérie, Royal Jordanian and Syphax (maybe Tunisair eventually) fly out of YUL. Same with YYZ and Pakistan International, Toronto has a strong pakistani/indian population, so a fly route to Islamabad is logical. Also, Toronto is a world-class business city so links with Hong Kong, Beijing and Shanghai are necessary.

cyeg66 Sep 7, 2014 7:33 PM

Included YUL's juillet numbers...:) Incidentally, YUL really rebounding now, grew more than YYC for first time in quite a while.

YYZ: Jan-June 18,371,030 (+5.6%), rolling 12 mo: 37,088,499
YVR: Jan-July 11,151,541 (+8.1%), rolling 12 mo: 18,808,653
YYC: Jan-July 8,765,398 (+7.5%), rolling 12 mo: 14,930,945
YUL: Jan-July 8,615,744 (+3.7%), rolling 12 mo: 14,405,383
YEG: Jan-July 4,769,759 (+8.1%), rolling 12 mo: 8,054,263*
YOW: Jan-July 2,701,958 (+0.2%), rolling 12 mo: 4,584,278
YHZ: Inquired, won't share data for 2014, 2013: 3,585,864
YWG: Jan-June (est.) 1,781,591 (+3.5% est.), rolling 12 mo (est.): 3,543,477**
YTZ***: nothing posted, rolling 12 mo: anyone's guess, 2013: 2,300,000 approx.
YYJ: Jan-July 932,954 (+5.9%), rolling 12 mo: 1,608,881
YLW: Jan-July 921,769 (+6.8%), rolling 12 mo: 1,562,090
YYT***: nothing posted, rolling 12 mo: anyone's guess, 2013: 1,500,000 approx.
YQB***: Jan-July (no numbers posted) (approx +6.8%), 2013: 1,475,717
YXE***: nothing posted, rolling 12 mo: anyone's guess, 2013: 1,389,900
YQR***: nothing posted, rolling 12 mo: anyone's guess, 2013: 1,227,234
YMM: Jan-July 763,202 (+12.0%), rolling 12 mo: 1,277,439

Notes:
*YEG recently began including FBO passenger stats, bringing them in line with other airports.
**based on YWG's announced "6% growth in 2nd quarter".
***awaiting data from respective Airport Authorities via email, will update numbers upon getting any info.

Coldrsx Sep 14, 2014 8:49 PM

YEG to AMS 3x on KLM starting in Nov it sounds like.

CanadianCentaur Sep 14, 2014 9:48 PM

^ Likely using the A330-200, if this route does come into effect.

Coldrsx Sep 14, 2014 10:06 PM

Correct.

Klazu Sep 16, 2014 3:06 AM

Some great news for YVR. :yes:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kapten (Post 6730944)
Air Canada Rouge begins non-stop service to Osaka.

See http://www.newswire.ca/en/story/1411...to-osaka-japan

:cheers:

Quote:

Originally Posted by casper (Post 6730981)
Short term peek Qantas return to Vancouver ......

http://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/med...-for-vancouver

:cheers:

Klazu Sep 16, 2014 3:07 AM

I was in Richmond yesterday and the weather was superb. Actually it was so warm that the air was vibrating like on a hot summer day!

Float plane terminal.
http://vuosiamaailmalla.fi/blog/wp-c...terminaali.jpg

Air Canada 767 (I think) taking off.
http://vuosiamaailmalla.fi/blog/wp-c...canada_767.jpg

Followed by AC 777.
http://vuosiamaailmalla.fi/blog/wp-c...canada_777.jpg

Terminal construction
http://vuosiamaailmalla.fi/blog/wp-c.../2014/yvr1.jpg

YVR panorama
http://vuosiamaailmalla.fi/blog/wp-c...panoraama1.jpg

http://vuosiamaailmalla.fi/blog/wp-c...panoraama2.jpg

LeftCoaster Sep 19, 2014 9:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Klazu (Post 6731085)
Some great news for YVR. :yes:

Short term peek Qantas return to Vancouver ......

http://www.qantasnewsroom.com.au/med...-for-vancouver
:cheers:

Apparently Quantas has now applied to stretch this short term application into year round direct flights from Sydney on a 747.

The growth occurring and upcoming at YVR is simply staggering. I wonder if all this growth will trigger the construction of the third terminal called for in the long term plan.

craneSpotter Sep 19, 2014 9:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster (Post 6736684)
Apparently Quantas has now applied to stretch this short term application into year round direct flights from Sydney on a 747.

The growth occurring and upcoming at YVR is simply staggering. I wonder if all this growth will trigger the construction of the third terminal called for in the long term plan.

When they build the third terminal (fourth if you count the south terminal), I do like the idea of the Northeast (I or TB) terminal, but they will likely still need to add a people mover to keep passenger transfer times to/from the Domestic terminal reasonable. I really like the the idea of a west satellite terminal with an underground people mover :cheers:

Bigtime Sep 19, 2014 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster (Post 6736684)
Apparently Quantas has now applied to stretch this short term application into year round direct flights from Sydney on a 747.

The growth occurring and upcoming at YVR is simply staggering. I wonder if all this growth will trigger the construction of the third terminal called for in the long term plan.

Qantas.

Queensland And Northern Territory Aerial Services.

eemy Sep 20, 2014 1:25 AM

It's great that it is starting up again, though this is certainly not the first time they've tried to compete on the route. This time, at least, it will be direct which will make it more competitive.

Airboy Sep 26, 2014 5:33 PM

This does not affect most people here but could effect numbers altough small at 3 southern airports, and will affect some charter and cargo flights.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/...nths-1.2778868

lubicon Sep 26, 2014 6:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jeremy_haak (Post 6736973)
It's great that it is starting up again, though this is certainly not the first time they've tried to compete on the route. This time, at least, it will be direct which will make it more competitive.

I thought they sere also direct last time? With a stop in San Fransisco or Honolulu (I don't recall which).

Canadian74 Sep 27, 2014 5:55 PM

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Originally Posted by lubicon (Post 6744986)
I thought they sere also direct last time? With a stop in San Fransisco or Honolulu (I don't recall which).

It was a stop at SFO. AC used to stop at HNL. He likely meant "non-stop" YVR-SYD.

Johnny Aussie Oct 2, 2014 1:03 AM

YVR August Figures
 
I was requested to post what I posted in the YVR thread here. So here it is... with some help from craneSpotter to get the stats rolling!

Incredible results.

Total Passengers: 2,086,481 (+8.0%)

Domestic: 1,079,507 +8.2%
International (incl TB): 1,006,974 +7.7
Transborder: 510,057 +9.1%

YTD: 13,238,277 (+8.1%)

First month overall smashing through 2 million.
First month domestic smashing through 1 million.
First month international (incl TB) smashing through 1 million.
First month transborder smashing through half a million.
Best month ever in each category except miscellaneous int'l of course.

Increase in pax compared to Aug 2013 - this really shows the huge growth:

Overall up 153,800
Domestic up 81,600
Transborder up 42,800
Asia Pacific up 20,500
Europe up 8,200
Misc int'l up 700

YTD just shy of 1,000,000 more pax than 2013 as well... thought I would throw that in.

And cargo up 13.3%

Dalreg Oct 2, 2014 4:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigtime (Post 6736797)
Qantas.

Queensland And Northern Territory Aerial Services.

???? everyone who has a internet access knows what Qantas stands for.


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