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Calfan12 Aug 24, 2021 6:53 PM

Hawaii has now asked tourists to stay home (if)their trips are Non Essential - won’t be surprising if AC and WestJet will cut back on Hawaii,USflights ✈️this winter too!

https://globalnews.ca/news/8136003/c...-travel-risky/

Dominion301 Aug 25, 2021 2:15 AM

YYZ has introduced an online shopping portal for anyone in Ontario called The Shops at Pearson: https://www.newswire.ca/news-release...835848515.html

Dominion301 Aug 25, 2021 2:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Calfan12 (Post 9374877)
United Airlines (UA) has now pushed back the Edmonton to Denver and Houston US,flights✈️ to February 2022.

For now, UA are now showing YOW-IAD as returning on 31OCT21. This is about 3 weeks later than earlier planned with 1x CRJ. YOW-ORD is now pushed back from late October to 16DEC21 showing 3x CRJ from the get-go...seems a little far-fetched to be starting at 3x. YOW-IAD also shows as suddenly jumping to 3x on 16DEC21 (and from 1x CRJ to 1x ERJ & 2x E70 no less), which seems to indicate the schedule is only non-dummy to 15DEC21.

Dominion301 Aug 25, 2021 4:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dominion301 (Post 9374106)
A York Region Police drone struck a Cessna (172?) on approach to Buttonville earlier this month damaging the Cessna.

https://www.cp24.com/news/plane-dama...nada-1.5554610

Even the police can't follow Transport Canada's drone operation regulations.

This article has a pic of the damage to the Cessna: https://skiesmag.com/news/police-dro...trike-airport/

https://assets.skiesmag.com/wp-conte...one-aug-20.jpg

Calfan12 Aug 25, 2021 6:06 PM

It looks like KLM 2x weekly flights ✈️between Edmonton and Amsterdam Netherlands circle routing with Calgary YYC ,has been extended to End of March 2022 for this upcoming Winter season too.1 of is reversed going AMS-YEG-YYC-AMS on KLM 673 operates Saturdays starting Dec.11. While the KLM 679 AMS-YYC-YEG-AMS remains the same operating Thursdays.

hollywoodcory Aug 26, 2021 5:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Dominion301 (Post 9375818)
For now, UA are now showing YOW-IAD as returning on 31OCT21. This is about 3 weeks later than earlier planned with 1x CRJ. YOW-ORD is now pushed back from late October to 16DEC21 showing 3x CRJ from the get-go...seems a little far-fetched to be starting at 3x. YOW-IAD also shows as suddenly jumping to 3x on 16DEC21 (and from 1x CRJ to 1x ERJ & 2x E70 no less), which seems to indicate the schedule is only non-dummy to 15DEC21.

UA's schedule has only been modified until mid-December. For YYC it shows SFO / ORD and IAH resuming December 16th at 2-3x daily. I assuming they're holding off updating the Christmas break schedule until closer to, to see what demand is like.

Dominion301 Aug 26, 2021 7:33 PM

Saskatchewan pax numbers: https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...41#post9376241

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Saskatoon saw 463,531 passengers in 2020, a decrease from 1,482,538 a year prior.

“For us locally, at the worst of the pandemic, we did see a 98 per cent decrease in passenger traffic at around April 2020, and we never really recovered after that since we finished the year about 69 per cent down from what we would have seen compared to 2019,” Dushinski explained.

As for Regina, there were 363,409 total passengers last year compared to 1,168,390 in 2019.

Calfan12 Aug 26, 2021 9:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Dominion301 (Post 9377732)

Not too surprising that Saskatoon and Regina,Saskatchewan Canada airport’s passenger numbers dropped, due to the Pandemic. All Airport’s had a drop in passenger traffic too around the World in 2020!

Calfan12 Aug 26, 2021 9:58 PM

From January- June 2021 in Western Canada, Calgary International Airport YYC handled a total of 1,387,968 passengers and were a little more busier than Vancouver. https://www.yyc.com/Portals/0/MEDIA/...r_paxtotal.pdf

While Vancouver International Airport handled a total of 1,339,069 from January-June https://www.yvr.ca/-/media/yvr/docum...passengers.pdf

thenoflyzone Aug 26, 2021 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dominion301 (Post 9377732)

Could you correct your source pls. I"ll use it on wiki. I had the -69% from the YXE 2020 annual report, but didn't have the exact pax count.

youngregina Aug 26, 2021 11:37 PM

Does that make Calgary the second busiest airport in Canada for 2021 so far? Or is Montreal currently ahead of Calgary?

thenoflyzone Aug 26, 2021 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Calfan12 (Post 9377936)
From January- June 2021 in Western Canada, Calgary International Airport YYC handled a total of 1,387,968 passengers and were a little more busier than Vancouver. https://www.yyc.com/Portals/0/MEDIA/...r_paxtotal.pdf

While Vancouver International Airport handled a total of 1,339,069 from January-June https://www.yvr.ca/-/media/yvr/docum...passengers.pdf

Lack of US, Asian - especially to China - and Australian flights are really hurting YVR's numbers.

As for YYC, their domestic hub strength is evident. Over 90% of their passenger count is domestic. Which means they are more shielded compared to YVR or YUL when international borders close. Hence explaining the easy overtake of both.

Will be interesting to see if YYC can hold this lead and take 2nd place at the end of 2021. I don't think it will. With international flights opening up, YVR should overtake fairly quickly. YUL as well, but might take more time.

2021 will likely finish with the same ranking as 2020 : YYZ in first, YVR second, YYC third and YUL fourth. 2022 should see YUL back in third, if we don’t get a 5th, 6th and 7th wave of this fucking virus that is.

Impressive stuff by YYC nevertheless ! :cheers:

thenoflyzone Aug 26, 2021 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by youngregina (Post 9378089)
Does that make Calgary the second busiest airport in Canada for 2021 so far? Or is Montreal currently ahead of Calgary?

Yes it does, for now.
YUL, with 911,817 passengers January to June, is well below YYC's and YVR's overall numbers, but well above both in terms of international passengers. Like I said above, with international borders opening up, YVR should be able to overtake YYC soon enough. YUL might take some time to catch up to YYC's overall numbers as well, but it should happen eventually, once all is right with the world.......;)

International passenger numbers January-June 2021:

YUL: 413,625
YVR: 271,025
YYC: 128,384

SpongeG Aug 27, 2021 5:17 AM

not sure how this will affect Canada, they do fly to Toronto, but surprising to see them shut down.

Alitalia Is Shutting Down With All Future Flights Canceled Starting October 15

https://www.afar.com/magazine/alital...-on-october-15

rbt Aug 27, 2021 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SpongeG (Post 9378382)
not sure how this will affect Canada, they do fly to Toronto, but surprising to see them shut down.

Alitalia Is Shutting Down With All Future Flights Canceled Starting October 15

It's not that surprising. They were shopping for a buyer a couple years before the pandemic began, and had losses for most of the decade prior to that point. The Italian government taking ownership was meant to be a stop-gap to allow purchase negotiations to continue but Alitalia doesn't have much worth buying.

Lots of passengers but they weren't able to compete with discount airlines HQ'd in other parts of Europe. Lufthansa, Air France, and Easyjet can comfortably take-over Alitalia routes/traffic without needing to buy the airline itself.

Alexcaban Aug 27, 2021 1:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SpongeG (Post 9378382)
not sure how this will affect Canada, they do fly to Toronto, but surprising to see them shut down.

Alitalia Is Shutting Down With All Future Flights Canceled Starting October 15

https://www.afar.com/magazine/alital...-on-october-15

Not surprising at all. They’ve been a mess for years.

Dominion301 Aug 27, 2021 3:52 PM

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Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 9378067)
Could you correct your source pls. I"ll use it on wiki. I had the -69% from the YXE 2020 annual report, but didn't have the exact pax count.

Oops. Here you go: https://globalnews.ca/news/8140813/s...enger-traffic/

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Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 9378100)
Yes it does, for now.
YUL, with 911,817 passengers January to June, is well below YYC's and YVR's overall numbers, but well above both in terms of international passengers. Like I said above, with international borders opening up, YVR should be able to overtake YYC soon enough. YUL might take some time to catch up to YYC's overall numbers as well, but it should happen eventually, once all is right with the world.......;)

International passenger numbers January-June 2021:

YUL: 413,625
YVR: 271,025
YYC: 128,384

I think that means YYC is definitely 2nd busiest as here is to June for YYZ that I posted a couple of weeks ago:

Three months / Six months (in millions)

Sector/ 2021 Q2 / 2020 Q2 / # Change / % Change / 2021 YTD / 2020 YTD / # Change / % Change
Domestic / 0.6 / 0.3 / 0.3 / +93.8% / 1.2 / 3.5 / (2.3) / (65.3%)
International / 0.4 / 0.2 / 0.2 / +93.9% / 0.9 / 6.6 / (5.7) / (86.4%)
Total / 1.0 / 0.5 / 0.5 / +93.8% / 2.1 / 10.1 / (12.2) / (79.1%)

That's only about 800k behind YYZ.

thenoflyzone Aug 28, 2021 10:05 PM

Canada puts a ban on flights from Morocco, same way it did for flights from India back in April. Ban starts midnight tonight and runs until Sept 29, for now.

Needless to say, this will affect mostly YUL, as it has several daily flights to CMN everyday on AT and AC.

Quote:

PURSUANT TO SECTION 5.1 OF THE AERONAUTICS ACT, THE MINISTER OF
TRANSPORT IS OF THE OPINION IT IS NECESSARY FOR AVIATION SAFETY
AND THE PROTECTION OF THE PUBLIC, TO PROHIBIT THE OPS OF ACFT
INVOLVED IN SKED AND NON SKED INTL COMMERCIAL AIR SVC FM MOROCCO,
FOR THE TRANSPORT OF PASSENGERS ON AN INBOUND FLT TO CANADA
. THIS
PROHIBITION FURTHER APPLIES TO OPS OF ACFT INVOLVED IN PRIVATE
AND CHARTER AIR SVC.
THIS PROHIBITION DOES NOT APPLY TO ACFT OPERATED IN THE FLW
CIRCUMSTANCES:
- CARGO FLT
- MEDEVAC FLT
- FERRY FLT
- FLIGHT CREW REPATRIATION FLT
- TECHNICAL STOPS WHERE PASSENGERS DO NOT DISEMBARK, OR
- AT ALTERNATE AP IDENTIFIED IN A FLT PLAN TO ADDRESS WX, OR
- ACFT SAFETY SITUATIONS, OR
- FLT EN ROUTE TO CANADA AT THE TIME THIS NOTICE TAKES EFFECT
- IN THE CASE WHERE SPECIAL AUTH HAS BEEN GRANTED BY
TRANSPORT CANADA: 1-613-992-6853.

jamincan Aug 29, 2021 12:39 AM

Is something happening in Morocco that I'm not aware of? We are starting a survey for a mining company there soon, and the equipment was detained by CBSA to review whether it required export permits (it didn't as it turns out). Now they're stopping flights from Morocco?

hollywoodcory Aug 29, 2021 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by jamincan (Post 9380220)
Is something happening in Morocco that I'm not aware of? We are starting a survey for a mining company there soon, and the equipment was detained by CBSA to review whether it required export permits (it didn't as it turns out). Now they're stopping flights from Morocco?

https://www.canada.ca/en/transport-c...r-29-2021.html

Due to COVID.

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An increase in COVID-19 positive test results has been observed in travellers arriving in Canada from Morocco over the past month.


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