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whatnext Dec 8, 2020 7:19 PM

Not really a surprise as the bailout talks with the Feds seem to be going nowhere:

Verge of collapse’: Air Canada reports more service cuts, station closures in Atlantic Canada
By Aya Al-Hakim Global News
Posted December 8, 2020

Atlantic Canada’s airports were advised Tuesday of more service cuts and station closures by Air Canada that will become effective Jan. 11, 2021.

As of that day, Air Canada will be suspending all flights until further notice in Sydney, N.S., and Saint John, N.B., and suspending four routes until further notice in Deer Lake, N.L., Charlottetown, Fredericton and Halifax.

In a statement, the Atlantic Canada Airports Association (ACAA) said the announcement comes on the heels of WestJet’s October announcement suspending 80 per cent of the airline’s Atlantic Canada capacity, and an earlier announcement in June by Air Canada indefinitely suspending 11 routes in Atlantic Canada along with the closure of stations in Bathurst, N.B., and Wabush, N.L.

According to the association, the second wave of COVID-19 infections is piling “added pressure on a sector on the verge of collapse.”...


https://globalnews.ca/news/7508603/a...lantic-canada/

hollywoodcory Dec 8, 2020 7:21 PM

Looks like Air Canada has begun making good on them threats. They're suspending operations to YQY & YSJ until further notice after January 10th.

thenoflyzone Dec 8, 2020 7:53 PM

The following services are suspended.

YYZ-YQY
YUL-YSJ
YDF-YHZ
YFC-YYZ
YYG-YYZ
YHZ-YOW

Zmonkey Dec 8, 2020 7:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hollywoodcory (Post 9128182)
Looks like Air Canada has begun making good on them threats. They're suspending operations to YQY & YSJ until further notice after January 10th.

I don't think anyone really should be surprised.
WestJet already has done similar.
2nd wave, government asking no one to travel
Atlantic Canada bubble
Weak economy

We will need less airports, planes and staff after this.

Dominion301 Dec 8, 2020 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 9128234)
The following services are suspended.

YYZ-YQY
YUL-YSJ
YDF-YHZ
YFC-YYZ
YYG-YYZ
YHZ-YOW

These will all be back eventually with the last one obviously the first to return. Normally, YOW-YHZ in the doldurms of winter has about 8 daily on it, going up to around 12 daily in summer.

Sucks for YQY and YSJ to join the ranks of much smaller airports that currently have no air service too. After YOW-YHZ's dropped, even YOW will only have service on 5 routes in January and everything east will again connect at YUL like in April & May.

It's no surprise with yesterday's record-setting total nationally of COVID cases. 1,500 more than the prior Monday. It's going to be this time next year before we start to see a strong recovery...assuming there isn't too much anti-vaxing opposition, which is a big IF given the lack of mandatory vaccinations at this point.

AC's trying to out bluff the Transport Minister. Garneau has said in French just a couple of days ago no refunds to pax = no gov't bailout.

whatnext Dec 8, 2020 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dominion301 (Post 9128455)
These will all be back eventually with the last one obviously the first to return. Normally, YOW-YHZ in the doldurms of winter has about 8 daily on it, going up to around 12 daily in summer.

Sucks for YQY and YSJ to join the ranks of much smaller airports that currently have no air service too. After YOW-YHZ's dropped, even YOW will only have service on 5 routes in January and everything east will again connect at YUL like in April & May.

It's no surprise with yesterday's record-setting total nationally of COVID cases. 1,500 more than the prior Monday. It's going to be this time next year before we start to see a strong recovery...assuming there isn't too much anti-vaxing opposition, which is a big IF given the lack of mandatory vaccinations at this point.

AC's trying to out bluff the Transport Minister. Garneau has said in French just a couple of days ago no refunds to pax = no gov't bailout.

I'm sure AC and WS would issue refunds if the bailout was commensurate with what other countries did for their airlines.

Dominion301 Dec 9, 2020 2:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whatnext (Post 9128519)
I'm sure AC and WS would issue refunds if the bailout was commensurate with what other countries did for their airlines.

I'm sure they will here too once a deal for the major carriers is worked out. WS have started issuing refunds. AC et al are the holdouts.

Keep in mind the airlines have received help, but just the same help to date as any other business.

Dominion301 Dec 9, 2020 2:50 AM

While a bit off topic as he's not Canadian, just like Max Ward a few weeks ago, another legend aviation passes. Chuck Yeager, the first person to ever break the sound barrier, died yesterday at the age of 97.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/chuch-...dies-1.5832252

Dominion301 Dec 10, 2020 12:58 AM

In addition to YQY and YSJ in the east, out west AC is also suspending YYF (Penticton) until further notice. Of note, YYF is one of only 18 remaining airports that is still operated by Transport Canada. WS will still serve YYF during the AC suspension.

https://globalnews.ca/news/7509795/a...sion=true&s=03

Djeffery Dec 10, 2020 1:09 AM

WS is resuming YXU-YYC on Dec 20, 3x weekly. The notice also mentioned a few extra holiday flights added, not sure how many.

hollywoodcory Dec 10, 2020 4:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Djeffery (Post 9129463)
WS is resuming YXU-YYC on Dec 20, 3x weekly. The notice also mentioned a few extra holiday flights added, not sure how many.

5x weekly December 20-27.

Additionally, looks like WS has dropped a few planned route resumptions this month including: YEG-CUN/PVR/YHZ & YWG-CUN/PVR.

BenYOW Dec 10, 2020 10:33 PM

Canadian North has issued a press release and accompanying video with several interesting pieces of information:
  • The Dash 8 fleet has been retired, leaving the ATR 42 as the airline's sole turboprop fleet type;
  • The airline plans to add two Boeing 737-700s in 2021, in addition to its -200, -300, and -400 models; and
  • A Letter of Intent has been signed with Air Greenland to explore partnership opportunities for air service between Greenland and Canada.
Quote:

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE, December 9, 2020 – Canadian North and Air Greenland announced a Letter of Intent (LOI) today, committing to explore partnership opportunities for air service and sustainable tourism development between Greenland and Canada. The LOI (shown here) was signed in Ilulissat on January 27, 2020 by Canadian North Executive Chairman Johnny N. Adams, Canadian North President and CEO Chris Avery, Air Greenland Board Chairman Kjeld Zacho Jørgensen and Air Greenland CEO Jacob Nitter Sørensen.

In a remote presentation to the Greenland Conference 2020 hosted by the Confederation of Danish Industry (DI) in Denmark on December 9, 2020 (shown here), Canadian North Executive Chairman Johnny N. Adams provided an update on the impact of COVID-19 on planned next steps. “We were going to announce the LOI in March of 2020, but both of our airlines were occupied with providing safe travel throughout our customers’ journeys and preventing the spread of COVID.”

“Now that there is a vaccine in distribution, it’s time to start looking ahead to partnering on flights through Ottawa-Iqaluit-Nuuk and Ottawa-Iqaluit-Ilulissat. We’d also like to connect Greenland directly with southern Canada, possibly via Toronto during the tourism season, which includes March, April and August to October.”

“In 2021, we’ll be adding two Boeing 737-700 aircraft to our fleet that will be able to go from Toronto direct to Nuuk or Ilulissat,” elaborated Canadian North President and CEO Chris Avery. “Although we have yet to enter the planning stages of providing this connectivity, the LOI is a reflection of our common goal; to bridge the vast distances between Canada and Greenland. Inuit have traversed the Arctic since time immemorial to gather, share, and trade. Direct flights between the two countries would revitalize this relationship, strengthen cultural ties and provide economic opportunities in tourism and trade.”

“We are pleased to continue working with Air Greenland to bring our shared vision into reality.”

Denscity Dec 10, 2020 10:46 PM

I've waiting so long for the Toronto - Ilulissat flights to fire up!

Dominion301 Dec 10, 2020 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BenYOW (Post 9130374)
Canadian North has issued a press release and accompanying video with several interesting pieces of information:
  • The Dash 8 fleet has been retired, leaving the ATR 42 as the airline's sole turboprop fleet type;
  • The airline plans to add two Boeing 737-700s in 2021, in addition to its -200, -300, and -400 models; and
  • A Letter of Intent has been signed with Air Greenland to explore partnership opportunities for air service between Greenland and Canada.

A return of YOW-Greenland same-plane service after a 20 year absence (summer charters on First Air existed from 2001-2006) would be nice. Seasonal YYZ would make sense to connect to AC’s vast network. I wonder if 5T will turn the 73Gs into combis? Now is definitely the time to pounce on NG equipment. I would imagine 5T are in better shape than most Canadian carriers given 1/2 their business is cargo.

hollywoodcory Dec 10, 2020 11:24 PM

https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...tes.html#/na-1

Looks like AC is re-dropping a bunch of domestic routes in January. Not surprising given its typically a slow travel month anyways.

Aside from the already noted Atlantic Canada routes, also looks like:

YYC-YOW
YYC-YCD
YUL-YWG
YYZ-YLW
YYZ-YYJ
YVR-YYF

Also this US route is dropped too:
YVR-PDX

A few routes only operate during the peak travel season between Dec 18-Jan 10ish. I believe WS January update should be loaded this weekend too.

Dominion301 Dec 11, 2020 6:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hollywoodcory (Post 9130466)
https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...tes.html#/na-1

Looks like AC is re-dropping a bunch of domestic routes in January. Not surprising given its typically a slow travel month anyways.

Aside from the already noted Atlantic Canada routes, also looks like:

YYC-YOW
YYC-YCD
YUL-YWG
YYZ-YLW
YYZ-YYJ
YVR-YYF

Also this US route is dropped too:
YVR-PDX

A few routes only operate during the peak travel season between Dec 18-Jan 10ish. I believe WS January update should be loaded this weekend too.

That puts YOW back at just above April/May service offerings from AC for the doldrums of winter. 7-8 departures/day. Speaking of YOW:

YOW's November Pax Stats. The drop in service levels corresponds with the drop in pax traffic:

Sector / Nov-19 / Nov-20 / % Change
Dom: 310,590 / 31,742 / -89.8%
TB: 47,522 / 0 / -100.0%
Int'l: 22,572 / 0 / -100.0%
TTL: 380,684 / 31,742 / -91.7%

Sector / YTD 2019 / YTD 2020 / % Change
Dom: 3,680,278 / 987,373 / -73.2% - Will just break the million domestic pax mark at year-end
TB: 627,661 / 163,093 / -74.0%
Int'l: 379,228 / 168,382 / -55.6% - Not that it means much, but this is the first time in history YOW handled more international pax than transborder pax.
TTL: 4,687,167 / 1,318,848 / -71.9%

12 Months Rolling / % Change vs Year End 2019
Dom: 1,300,648 / -67.5%
TB: 221,729 / -69.2%
Int'l: 215,791 / -44.4%
TTL: 1,738,168 / -65.99%

The meaningful indicator these days
Month-Over-Month Change
Sector / Oct-20 / Nov-20 / % Change
Dom: 38,551 / 31,742 / -17.7%
TB: 0 / 0 / #DIV/0!
Int'l: 0 / 0 / #DIV/0!
TTL: 38,551 / 31,742 / -17.7%

hollywoodcory Dec 11, 2020 9:50 PM

https://www.alberta.ca/international...ect.aspx#toc-5

Didn't realize they were reporting this information, but as of December 3 (first month) of the YYC testing pilot there has been 10,923 participants. Out of that 1.51% tested positive on the first test, while 0.79% tested positive on the second test with an average of 1.23%.

I'd say the pilot is working well. I suspect YEG will get added around February with other airports getting a similar testing plan by April.

Denscity Dec 11, 2020 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hollywoodcory (Post 9131433)
https://www.alberta.ca/international...ect.aspx#toc-5

Didn't realize they were reporting this information, but as of December 3 (first month) of the YYC testing pilot there has been 10,923 participants. Out of that 1.51% tested positive on the first test, while 0.79% tested positive on the second test with an average of 1.23%.

I'd say the pilot is working well. I suspect YEG will get added around February with other airports getting a similar testing plan by April.

Is YVR and Westjet doing something similar? Thought i saw a news article on a pilot project over there.

hollywoodcory Dec 11, 2020 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denscity (Post 9131532)
Is YVR and Westjet doing something similar? Thought i saw a news article on a pilot project over there.

I think that one is for domestic travel? Air Canada is running a testing pilot for international arrivals at YYZ, but the participants don't get to skip the 14 day quarantine.

MonctonRad Dec 12, 2020 3:39 AM

PAL Airlines press release from today:

Quote:

PAL Airlines Announces Enhanced Winter Schedule for Atlantic Canada and Quebec
DECEMBER 11, 2020
From PAL Airlines:

St. John’s, NL—PAL Airlines is proud to announce our enhanced winter schedule for Atlantic Canada and Quebec, designed to meet market demand with new capacity, solidify our new fleet of Q400 aircraft in regular commercial service and enhance connectivity across our network.

“PAL Airlines continues to manage our way forward based on a strategy of staying close to our customers and connected to the communities we serve,” said Calvin Ash, President of PAL Airlines. “We’re confident the growth we’ve announced today responsibly matches our capacity to market demand while allowing us to continue meeting the needs of our customers and expanding our network in the near future.”

PAL Airlines continues to maintain an extensive presence throughout Atlantic Canada and Quebec with scheduled passenger and cargo services to a variety of destinations. Today’s updated schedule specifically introduces two new routes, Moncton – Deer Lake and Moncton – Wabush, that allow for easy expansion as seasonal demand increases. These additions also solidify PAL Airlines’ presence in Moncton ahead of the initiation of our previously announced Moncton – Ottawa service, intended to start as travel restrictions in Atlantic Canada are progressively reduced.

PAL Airlines has also increased frequencies across our Quebec market offering additional services throughout the region and enhancing connectivity between our Montréal and Wabush hubs. As our new schedule is introduced, PAL Airlines will monitor events in the market and continue working with industry partners and customers to enhance scheduled services and meet community requirements.

“PAL Airlines’ success has always been built on quickly adapting our services in line with the needs of our customers,” saidMr. Ash. “Our ability to implement the schedule enhancements announced today is a direct reflection of our collaboration with community partners in Atlantic Canada and Quebec and of our long-standing commitment to service in those regional markets.”
PAL appears to be planning for the Romeo LeBlanc International Airport to become a hub for it's airline in the Maritime region. With the current St. John's service, and planned Moncton-Ottawa service (after the pandemic abates), the following routes will be available:

Moncton - St. John's NL
Moncton - Deer Lake NL
Moncton - Wabush NL
Moncton - Ottawa ON

This is big news for CYQM. If Moncton becomes a hub for the airline, there could be the possibility of further service expansion (with this particular airline) down the road (Gander, Montreal, Toronto). :)

The Deer Lake and Wabush services start in January. I could see Deer Lake being a popular destination in the wintertime (Marble Mountain), and the summertime too (Gros Morne).

At present, the only other carrier operating on a regularly scheduled basis to Moncton is Air Canada (to Montreal and Toronto). Hopefully after the end of the pandemic, we will see the return of WestJet and Porter for year round operations and SunWing and Air Transat for sun destination flights in the wintertime. Swoop was supposed to begin service to Moncton in the summer of 2020, but that didn't get off the ground because of the pandemic.


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