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HurricaneHugo Jan 7, 2011 8:12 AM

Like the guy already.

Seriously though how do you run for city council lol.

I made a comment on it and yahoo left my real name grrrr.

tdavis Jan 7, 2011 6:58 PM

Carl DeMaio Files to Run for San Diego Mayor
So City Councilman Carl DeMaio has filed to run for mayor.

HurricaneHugo Jan 7, 2011 9:54 PM

Good or bad?

Derek Jan 7, 2011 9:55 PM

I HATE that guy. He's a prick.

tdavis Jan 7, 2011 10:29 PM

Derek, do you know Carl? I know him personally and he's a very nice guy.

As a Democratic, I don't agree with all of his viewpoints, but to say that you "HATE" someone, that's pretty harsh.

Derek Jan 8, 2011 3:05 AM

Yeah I've met him before, I guess he just rubs me the wrong way...

Lipani Jan 9, 2011 7:04 PM

DeMaio may be a nice guy (I've never met him), but he has no vision for the city at all. He is on the news more than the mayor and only discusses budget cuts/pension reform 95% of the time. Look no further than his blog. Besides the two topics mentioned previously, it's mostly empty rhetoric without any ideas on making our city better.

SDCAL Jan 10, 2011 5:58 AM

DeMaio is Dirty
I have to agree with Derek and Lipani, Carl DeMaio would be an extremely poor choice for Mayor, especially for anyone who favors continued development downtown.

He has been the most vocal opponent of the library and city hall (luckily the library broke ground anyway).

I am not saying I am for mass development without planning or responsibility, but I am also not for simply stalling on things for decades either.

DeMaio's entire argument against a new city hall is based primarily on economics, of which there is documentation to show a new city hall building would actually save money.

The main issue with a new city hall is whether you look at the short-term or long-term.

Short-term, yes it will cost the city money.

But long-term reports show it will save the city money after a decade.

I realize a decade is a long time in our lives, but in terms of a city it is not that long.

DeMaio and his ilk prefer to simply use the hysteria of an economic downturn to score political points, and to put-off a needed project so the next generation can worry about it.

The facts are that the city has very low rents downtown on office space, and these leases will be expiring I believe in 2014-2016, at which time they will go up dramatically.

DeMaio appeals to the loon posters in the Union Tribune who seriously want our city hall to be housed in portable trailers on the outskirts of town. I am not exaggerating, there are really people in this town who advocate for that, and they are DeMaio supporters.

I have many other reasons to not support DeMaio, including things I know about his character and ego (I have not met the man but do know people who know him personally) but since this is a development thread I will leave it with his positions on downtown development - - which can basically be summed up as be against everything.

I know Mayor Sanders has been criticized a great deal, but I actually think he has been a decent mayor considering the mess he inherited when he came in.

He did play a key role getting the library off the ground, and he has also helped the pension crisis as much as one person can without a tax increase.

I think mayor Sanders should be given more credit than he has for being a decent mayor (of course his view on the airport - putting billions into Lindbergh - is asinine, but other than that he has been pretty reasonable).

DeMaio would be a complete and utter disaster in my opinion.:slob: :slob:

brantw Jan 10, 2011 6:24 PM

Progress on the waterfront
The civic dream of transforming San Diego’s Embarcadero into one of the nation’s great public places has suffered more stops than starts over the past 20 years. But a new agreement between previously warring parties could be the breakthrough that will finally get the project under way this fall.

Under the deal, described in a meeting with the Union-Tribune editorial board last week, developers of the long-stalled hotel project proposed for the site of the former Lane Field have agreed to revise plans in order to make two acres of the property available for a grand public plaza at the foot of Broadway. The developers also agreed to remain neutral in organized labor’s expected future effort to unionize the hotel’s workers.

A key port district commissioner agreed to push for removal of the proposed Broadway Pier improvements from the first phase of the Embarcadero project, satisfying the main group of activists who have sued the port in a battle over use of the pier.

And in return for all of that, the activists, known as the Navy Broadway Complex Coalition, agreed to drop opposition to the rest of the project and to support it at Tuesday’s port commission meeting and at the City Council and state Coastal Commission.

“It’s about time the public got this development they’ve been expecting,” Ian Trowbridge, co-chair of the coalition, told the editorial board.

Indeed, it is.

At stake in all of this is the $28 million first phase of the $228 million North Embarcadero Visionary Plan, a proposed remake of Downtown San Diego’s bayside “front porch” with a public esplanade, parks, gardens, a bike path, public art and other amenities that would help turn the waterfront into a world-class public space for San Diegans and visitors alike.

As promising as the new agreement is, hurdles remain, perhaps most significant of which is new Gov. Jerry Brown’s proposal to tap redevelopment funds up and down the state to help balance the state budget. That creates a new sense of urgency related to the Embaracadero project’s $28 million financing, which is to come from the city’s downtown redevelopment corporation, half of it in the form of a loan to the port district.

Still, the agreement represents a major step toward making the plan not just a vision but a reality. Credit goes to Port Commissioner Scott Peters, former Commissioner Steve Cushman, Councilman Kevin Faulconer, the Lane Field developer, and the coalition activists, including Trowbridge and labor leader Lorena Gonzalez, all of whom played key roles in putting the deal together.

It is still too early to uncork the Champagne. But in the end, this deal could prove to be a model for how to get things done.

Read the full article at SignonSanDiego.

SDfan Jan 10, 2011 11:11 PM

I don't want to say the sky is falling, but...

The sky is falling!

SDfan Jan 11, 2011 10:47 PM

Library Tower Extension:

eburress Jan 11, 2011 11:02 PM


Originally Posted by SDfan (Post 5120890)
I don't want to say the sky is falling, but...

The sky is falling!

Good God I hate this ridiculous state. They just keep effing themselves left and right and then wonder why they're effed. Brilliant.

bushman61988 Jan 12, 2011 1:51 AM


Originally Posted by SDfan (Post 5122251)

Been a while since I posted, but these renderings of the tower are awesome! I wish I could figure out how to post them on this forum...

Although I wish there was some nicer way to top it off (can we get a spire here San Diego?), it's WAY better than the roof of the Icon or Electra..

I think my favorite part is the round purple commercial structure that is almost's a really unique shape and color... for once some originality in San Diego architecture!

bmfarley Jan 12, 2011 4:06 AM


Originally Posted by eburress (Post 5122269)
Good God I hate this ridiculous state. They just keep effing themselves left and right and then wonder why they're effed. Brilliant.

No one to blame, but ourselves. It is the California voters that passed proposition after proposition that added cost after cost to the budget. And, we fight tax increases to pay for it.

brantw Jan 12, 2011 5:21 AM

Library Tower

Here you go:

Derek Jan 12, 2011 6:28 AM

Ah, it's resurfaced. I wonder how long it'll be before it disappears again... :(

eburress Jan 12, 2011 6:39 AM


Originally Posted by bmfarley (Post 5122651)
No one to blame, but ourselves. It is the California voters that passed proposition after proposition that added cost after cost to the budget. And, we fight tax increases to pay for it.

I'm not going to include myself with that bunch. I didn't vote for any of that BS. It's the same NIMBYs that piss on everything here that are to blame...they're the ones who voted for all that. I hate hate hate California!

Lipani Jan 12, 2011 6:59 PM

Holy crap! DeMaio is in favor of a project!


San Diego approves expansion of Horton Plaza park
San Diegans may have a new place to celebrate their city on New Year’s Eve 2013 — assuming construction stays on schedule of course.

The San Diego City Council on Tuesday unanimously approved a plan to demolish the former Robinson’s-May building in Westfield’s Horton Plaza mall and use the land to expand the historic park located in front of it.


Councilwoman Lorie Zapf called it an “innovative public-private partnership.” That sentiment was echoed by Councilman Carl DeMaio, who is known for his focus on city budget problems and criticism of what he considers wrongheaded spending.

“There is no doubt that downtown needs more park space and we need to have civic gathering spots to really enjoy our city,” he said. “I think this is a good project for those reasons. It really does help us to improve the economic viability of the Horton Plaza shopping mall.”
Rest of the UT article here.

HurricaneHugo Jan 12, 2011 10:47 PM

I'm guessing none of the other projects were approved?

SDfan Jan 13, 2011 9:44 PM

^^ Yeah, did they approve of the hilton expansion? Anyone know?

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