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SDfan Jun 2, 2011 5:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HurricaneHugo (Post 5300857)
How does it compare to trolleys/buses cost wise, speed wise, and carrying capacity wise?

I think these streetcars would be nice to go up and down 5th/6th avenues, but a trolley system would be much better for North Park.

That I haven't a clue. SANDAG and MTS can figure that out.

All I know is, the streetcar is considered to be more established then bus routes, yet less invasive then LRT. Its like a crossbred, you get the pseudo-permanent aspects that rail lines have in a community (more so then bus lines) but without the longer, wider, larger trains of LRT.

I'm guessing it makes the streetcars less expensive and more "community friendly" I suppose?

SDfan Jun 2, 2011 9:00 PM

Epic picture...

http://www.signonsandiego.com/photos...jun/02/383693/

brantw Jun 3, 2011 12:01 AM

Library Update
 
I wanted to start a new thread for the library, but I couldn't find an official height, so I will just post some updates here in the meantime.

The "gravity arch," designed to carry the load of upper floors, is now being erected.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2150/...ac9dd2d0_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2016/...e4750c14_o.jpg

Some other random pictures
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5146/...15081df5_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3600/...b4c2c603_o.jpg

brantw Jun 3, 2011 3:12 AM

Here's a bonus pic I got today of the British Airways Boeing 777 on arrival.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2542/...968d9027_b.jpg

bmfarley Jun 3, 2011 4:40 AM

There are three types of trolley's that do not need an overhead contact system, or OCS. Ones with a extension cord, batteries, or they are horse drawn.

But actually, there is at least one in Europe that does use battery power for a short distance and along a level grade. But, only to bridge a short distance in a historical area where poles and OCS are not accepted. Did I say it was a short distance?

202_Cyclist Jun 3, 2011 11:15 AM

bmfarley:
Quote:

There are three types of trolley's that do not need an overhead contact system, or OCS. Ones with a extension cord, batteries, or they are horse drawn.

But actually, there is at least one in Europe that does use battery power for a short distance and along a level grade. But, only to bridge a short distance in a historical area where poles and OCS are not accepted. Did I say it was a short distance?
DC is looking at alternatives to overhead wires for some of our planned streetcar routes because of the hysterics of some streetcar opponents. They are concerned the 1/8 inch catenary wires will ruin views on certain streets in the District (nevermind pollution from automobiles does a lot more to degrade views and I've never heard these people concerned about traffic signals adversely impacting important views).

Several cities use alternatives to overhead wires, including Bordeaux, Nice, Lisbon, and I think perhaps Dubai. Bordeaux uses a ground-based power system, while other technology uses, as you mentioned a battery to capture and store energy from the overhead wire portions of the route.

Here is a posting from the Transport Politic about it:

http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/2...ree-streetcar/

There was also an article from this year's annual Transportation Research Board meeting by a consultant at Parson Brinckerhoff about the different types of streetcar power technology. Send me a separate email and I'll forward it.

202_Cyclist Jun 3, 2011 11:16 AM

@Brantw:

Great photo of the BA aircraft. I didn't realize Lindbergh Field is long enough to accommodate a 777.

HurricaneHugo Jun 3, 2011 7:30 PM

747 I think.

I heard that 747s can't be fully loaded to land/take off from here?

They do come to visit once in a while though.

http://l.yimg.com/g/images/spaceout.gif

brantw Jun 3, 2011 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by HurricaneHugo (Post 5302973)
747 I think.

I heard that 747s can't be fully loaded to land/take off from here?

They do come to visit once in a while though.

http://l.yimg.com/g/images/spaceout.gif

That is correct. Here is a shot I found of a Saudi Arabian Boeing 747 from 2007 sitting on the runway. I also saw a Delta 747 out there a couple of months ago. What's crazy is that I read on Wikipedia that one of the Boeing 777 engines alone could power a 747... not sure how they figured that out.

So Cal Metro
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1330/...5234e24a_b.jpg

bmfarley Jun 4, 2011 1:43 AM

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Originally Posted by brantw (Post 5303233)
That is correct. Here is a shot I found of a Saudi Arabian Boeing 747 from 2007 sitting on the runway. I also saw a Delta 747 out there a couple of months ago. What's crazy is that I read on Wikipedia that one of the Boeing 777 engines alone could power a 747... not sure how they figured that out.

So Cal Metro
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1330/...5234e24a_b.jpg

So Cal Metro takes great photos! Best and larget collection of public vehicles and airplanes if you ask me. He may be on this site from time to time too.

Derek Jun 5, 2011 2:47 AM

That's not even a full size 747, that's the 747SP, which is significantly shorter! :P

mongoXZ Jun 5, 2011 2:56 AM

Some cousins of mine from Florida flew in for a visit this week and this morning I decided to show them around downtown. I accidentally took the wrong exit into Barrio Logan and I was quite surprised at how the neighborhood is quite revitalized with new apartments and commercial centers cleaned up. My guests probably would have never known that this is some runned-down hood! I then drove into East Village and checked out where the Chargers stadium would be and the library construction progress. The East Village was unexpectedly vibrant for this time of day, residents (including homeless) strolling around everywhere. There was a new warehouse converted into a gym (Cross-Fit?) near Petco Park. Beautiful people packing the sidewalks! We then ate at Nicky Rottens in the Gaslamp and the people watching was unbelievable.

Needless to say my cousins were blown away and told me they wished they lived here. LOL

HurricaneHugo Jun 5, 2011 3:45 AM

^^ The new commercial center on Cesar Chavez (the huge dirt lot) is finally going to break ground (or already did?) so that should spruce up the neighborhood a bit more.

http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townn...1aa3.image.jpg

Lipani Jun 5, 2011 4:27 AM

Interesting interview with British Airways' CEO:

Quote:

Q: If the daily inbound and outbound flight proves successful, what are the prospects for additional flights, or is there even enough of a market for expansion?

A: We’ve got flights out of San Francisco, Los Angeles and San Diego. In the immediate term, that looks like a good spread. I don’t think it will support a second flight. But if the market warranted it, we could put a bigger aircraft here.

Q: The new nonstop flight has been touted by San Diego’s tourism industry leaders as a way to boost visitor spending here. What sort of boost, if any, do you expect in spending in London and beyond from the flight?

A: You’ve got fantastic attractions over here, so San Diego is a good tourist attraction, and we want to attract visitors to London, without need to transfer through Los Angeles, and we have a number of coming events in London: the Queen’s (Diamond) Jubilee, the 2012 Olympics, and London is a pretty cosmopolitan destination. Everything helps. It’s all incremental.

Q: San Diego is hoping to attract more nonstop international flights. What do you see as the pluses and minuses of Lindbergh Field for overseas flights?

A: In terms of an airport, it’s a nice-size airport. L.A. is clearly much bigger, but you have the attraction of a smaller airport that’s easy to get through. One of the things people look for is the ease of entry, and that’s something our customers look at in terms of (customs). We’re not looking at San Diego as a hub but a destination, so we’re not looking for the airport to expand.
Union-Tribune

SDfan Jun 6, 2011 4:11 AM

^^ That last bit says so much "we're not looking for the airport to expand" ... Hmm...

Filambata Jun 8, 2011 4:59 AM

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Originally Posted by HurricaneHugo (Post 5304298)
^^ The new commercial center on Cesar Chavez (the huge dirt lot) is finally going to break ground (or already did?) so that should spruce up the neighborhood a bit more.

http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townn...1aa3.image.jpg

Yes, that project, called Mercado del Barrio, broke ground in March 2011 and is anticipated to be completed by the end of 2012. It'll feature 90+ affordable rental units and a Northgate Gonzalez market. The Redevelopment Agency and Housing Commission contributed funds to the project. The new apartments you see in Barrio Logan (Los Vientos, La Entrada, and Gateway) are all redevelopment affordable housing projects. http://www.sandiego.gov/redevelopmen...barriolo.shtml

SDfan Jun 9, 2011 4:43 AM

This is pretty cool:

http://www.envision2050sd.com/

HurricaneHugo Jun 10, 2011 4:45 PM

Good job NIMBYs, now we get diddly squat for Balboa Park!

Quote:

"Qualcomm co-founder Irwin Jacobs suspended work Wednesday on his $40 million plan for Balboa Park after a City Council committee vote of nonsupport.

Mayor Jerry Sanders announced Jacobs' decision, and Jacobs confirmed it in a call from U-T columnist Diane Bell as he was leaving on a trip to Alaska.

“I will hold back and wait and see what happens," Jacobs said.

Jacobs also said he continues to believe in his plan but “if this takes very long (for the city to get on board) we’re going to miss the centennial date" - a reference to the upcoming 2015 celebration of the Panama-California Exposition."

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2...boa-park-plan/
I'll take the bypass bridge and 40 million in renovation over doing nothing to the park.

Ideally they'd build a parking garage to the west of the Cabrillo bridge instead of the bypass bridge.

kpexpress Jun 10, 2011 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HurricaneHugo (Post 5310856)
Good job NIMBYs, now we get diddly squat for Balboa Park!



I'll take the bypass bridge and 40 million in renovation over doing nothing to the park.

Ideally they'd build a parking garage to the west of the Cabrillo bridge instead of the bypass bridge.

It wouldn't cost 40 Million to straight up kick the cars off El Prado and the Bridge entirely. The bypass is the biggest mistake ever, all the other options weren't given a fair shake.

HurricaneHugo Jun 11, 2011 3:18 AM

Was there a render for the bypass somewhere?


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