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Nicko999 Jun 21, 2012 1:31 AM

NHL 2012-2013 thread
 
Hopefully the 2012-2013 season is no repeat of the 2004-2005 one.:(

logan5 Jun 21, 2012 1:49 AM

Nobody seems too worried about it. Bettman hasn't even set a date to start negotiations so maybe it's already a done deal. Or maybe not...

Coldrsx Jun 21, 2012 2:21 AM

Oilers may just win the cup.

someone123 Jun 21, 2012 3:04 AM

Is 2004-2005 the year when there was no hockey? That was nice. No riots, no vulgar cheering from the neighbours.

Calgarian Jun 21, 2012 3:53 AM

Hopefully the Flames can pick a player like Baertschi again this year, the cupboards aren't quite bare, but they aren't exactly full either.

sync Jun 21, 2012 4:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Coldrsx (Post 5741366)
Oilers may just win the cup.

as huge a fan as i am i don't see this happening next season.

The_Architect Jun 21, 2012 9:09 AM

Is the draft here yet?

freeweed Jun 21, 2012 2:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by someone123 (Post 5741420)
Is 2004-2005 the year when there was no hockey? That was nice. No riots, no vulgar cheering from the neighbours.

And just before that season, we had a Canadian team make it all the way to game 7 and lose, also without riots. :P

The ultimate fate of Phoenix is still up in the air. Rumours are that New Jersey may be declaring bankruptcy (and taken over by the league a la Phoenix) any day now. And San Jose is bleeding red ink to the tune of $15 million. I think a lot of owners would welcome a work stoppage as it would help them lose less money.

CBA negotiations are JUST starting, so I'm not sure I'd agree with the previous comments that no one seems worried. No one's gonna show their hand until well into the summer. Fehr isn't known for playing light, and with the league losing a TON of money in so many cities, I see a lot of fighting.

Calgarian Jun 21, 2012 3:30 PM

San Jose is losing money? I thought they sold out almost every game. Was definitely a busy rink the one game I went to...

freeweed Jun 21, 2012 3:39 PM

Schedule's just been released. We don't see the Jets this year. :hell:

Calgarian Jun 21, 2012 3:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freeweed (Post 5741842)
Schedule's just been released. We don't see the Jets this year. :hell:

So is the re-alignment off then? it shouldn't be hard to have Nashville and Winnipeg switch divisions...

rrskylar Jun 21, 2012 3:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calgarian (Post 5741848)
So is the re-alignment off then? it shouldn't be hard to have Nashville and Winnipeg switch divisions...

Very easy in a perfect world, it's just that the NHLPA grasps at things like that move as some sort of leverage with the BOG.

Teams may also to be re-aligned when the Coyotes move to QC.

freeweed Jun 21, 2012 3:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calgarian (Post 5741848)
So is the re-alignment off then? it shouldn't be hard to have Nashville and Winnipeg switch divisions...

That was called off months ago, unfortunately. The PA veto'd it from what I recall.

Their only realignment option was the really huge change involving 8-team divisions and whatnot. There is no other plan to move Winnipeg from the east - the NHL has to do what it can to continue to punish the WHA cities, I guess.

freeweed Jun 21, 2012 3:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rrskylar (Post 5741860)
Teams may also to be re-aligned when the Coyotes move to QC.

Not this year. I guarantee you Winnipeg will be in the SE and Quebec in the Pacific for a full season. If not several.

Nicko999 Jun 22, 2012 1:45 AM

My guess is we draft Galchenyuk tomorrow.

Despite being called the Canadiens, the Habs are the team that drafts the most Americans in the first round.:P

Since 2007, 3 of our 5 first round selections have been US guys with Tinordi, McDonagh, Pacioretty.

Gally is my choice for tommorow. I really like his game.

BTW-Congrats to Patches for that Masterson! Now let's win a more important trophy next season.:P

Quixote Jun 22, 2012 7:40 AM

The Kings only play the Leafs once? Weak.

The_Architect Jun 22, 2012 9:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Westsidelife (Post 5742764)
The Kings only play the Leafs once? Weak.

Agreed. And it's an away game.. I was looking forward to seeing the Kings come to Toronto.

And Pacioretty absolutely didn't deserve the Masterton. The guy who was out for a lot longer with a potentially fatal blood infection, then came back and had a much better season deserved it. But Pacioretty's injury was "sexier" so he got it. It's almost as if that award has no real meaning anymore.

Also Weber was robbed for the 2nd year in a row.

Nicko999 Jun 22, 2012 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by The_Architect (Post 5742792)
Agreed. And it's an away game.. I was looking forward to seeing the Kings come to Toronto.

And Pacioretty absolutely didn't deserve the Masterton. The guy who was out for a lot longer with a potentially fatal blood infection, then came back and had a much better season deserved it. But Pacioretty's injury was "sexier" so he got it. It's almost as if that award has no real meaning anymore.

Also Weber was robbed for the 2nd year in a row.

LOL, everyone nominated for that Award deserve it. Some didn't even get nominated and should have won (Fleischmann, his story is pretty incredible) it but what can you do, someone has to win.:shrug:

q12 Jun 23, 2012 12:58 AM

Canada pulling for Quebec City, Halifax for next NHL team: poll

National Post Staff Jun 16, 2012 – 9:30 AM ET

http://sports.nationalpost.com/2012/...nhl-team-poll/

Darkoshvilli Jun 23, 2012 4:11 AM

Galchenyuk!!:notacrook:

Nicko999 Jun 23, 2012 4:17 AM

Gally!!!:):):)

Video Link




LOL@Boston:haha: McGuire definately sounded excited...:jester: One more reason to watch the Montreal vs Boston in the future.

Video Link

Boreal Jun 23, 2012 6:33 AM

I really like Galchenyuk for Montreal, and I'm extremely pleased with Trouba in Winnipeg.

Yakupov is an incredible talent, and while the draft is always about the future, the number one overall is also about right now as it is someone a team will not have to wait on to develop. With that said, I'm not sure Yakupov helps the Oilers as much as a rear-guard would. If they get Matt Finn early in round two, I believe that would be nice. Unimaginable offensive talent in E-town's top 6. Wow.

freeweed Jun 23, 2012 4:30 PM

Wow, the Leaves have given up on yet another saviour.

The "Monster" goes to Winnipeg - good backup and potentially future goalie if they can sign him.

freeweed Jun 23, 2012 4:31 PM

Hmm. This week or next really looks to be the ultimate decider of the Coyotes' fate. Lots of interesting chatter.

Nicko999 Jun 23, 2012 9:18 PM

Trevor Timmins as its best...:)

After potentially drafting the most complete player in this draft (Gally), we got 3 others players that were projected to go in the first round (or close to).

Bergevin passes the first test with big success.:tup:

Quote:

Marc Bergevin didn't seem like a rookie during his first NHL draft as the Montreal Canadiens general manager.

While drafts take years to properly evaluate, the Canadiens couldn't help but hide their pleasure Saturday following a draft in which they repeatedly wound up with players who, by ranking, shouldn't have fallen into their hands.

First-round centre Alex Galchenyuk went as projected at No. 3 on Friday -- the Canadiens insist they had him ranked as the top player in the draft.

But their next three picks -- right wing Sebastian Collberg, defenceman Dalton Thrower and left wing Tim Bozon -- weren't expected to be available when they picked.

Multiple draft analysts were proclaiming the Canadiens as the winner of the two-day draft at Consol Energy Center, and Bergevin and player development director Trevor Timmins couldn't hide their pleasure at how the weekend played out.

"We'll tell you in five years, but we added a lot of talent, a lot of scoring upside, some toughness," Timmins said Saturday. "Some physicality as well. Right now, we're very happy. It's like Christmas day and Santa Claus arrives. Now we've opened our gifts and it's time to get to work."

Collberg starred on Sweden's gold medal-winning team in the world junior championships and, despite being ranked No. 3 overall among European skaters by NHL Central Scouting, was on the board when the Canadiens made the third pick of the second round Saturday morning.

"Some of the guys we got, I'm surprised they were there," Timmins said.

Later in the second round, they added no-nonsense defenceman Dalton Thrower, who had 18 goals and 54 points with the Saskatoon Blades. Thrower especially impressed Bergevin during the Prospects Game when he willingly took on tough guy Tom Wilson, who went No. 16 overall to Washington and was considered to be the most physical player in the draft.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=399084

The_Architect Jun 24, 2012 10:30 AM

I hate you Montreal. I wanted Galchenyuk.

Oh well, Morgan Rielly has probably the biggest ceiling of any defenseman in that draft, both him and Finn were great picks.

And Schenn traded for James van Reimsdyk! I'm still in the camp that Schenn would have rebounded in a big way under Carlyle, and I still wish him all the best. I am excited to see JVR on the Leafs though, great hockey trade. I remember earlier in the season Flyers fans insisting that the Leafs would have to add to Schenn to get JVR.. :haha:

roccerfeller Jun 24, 2012 5:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boreal (Post 5743921)
I really like Galchenyuk for Montreal, and I'm extremely pleased with Trouba in Winnipeg.

Yakupov is an incredible talent, and while the draft is always about the future, the number one overall is also about right now as it is someone a team will not have to wait on to develop. With that said, I'm not sure Yakupov helps the Oilers as much as a rear-guard would. If they get Matt Finn early in round two, I believe that would be nice. Unimaginable offensive talent in E-town's top 6. Wow.

Agreed on all fronts. As a former Habs junkie, and still a closet fan, I'm happy they picked him. For us on the Jets side, I'm pretty happy with our selection. Looks like Chevy is going towards a bruiser styler team with all the big bodies a la Boston. I have no problem with that ;) Love the Bruins

Quote:

Originally Posted by freeweed (Post 5744136)
Wow, the Leaves have given up on yet another saviour.

The "Monster" goes to Winnipeg - good backup and potentially future goalie if they can sign him.

Certainly an interesting development. More upside than Mason, that's for sure.

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Originally Posted by freeweed (Post 5744139)
Hmm. This week or next really looks to be the ultimate decider of the Coyotes' fate. Lots of interesting chatter.

I've been following it too. We'll see what happens. If the Nords return, they will be my #2 team as they were back in the day.

Hybrid247 Jun 24, 2012 6:09 PM

If the coyotes don't stay in Phoenix, don't they have just as much of a chance of going to Seattle as Quebec City? Both cities would be great for hockey imo. I also wonder what will happen with the islanders. Last I heard they weren't able to renew an arena agreement and their future is still uncertain.

LosAngelesSportsFan Jun 24, 2012 6:55 PM

so are these the teams that have a chance of moving in the near future? Islanders, Devils, Phoenix?

What options are out there? Seattle, Quebec, Kansas City?

freeweed Jun 24, 2012 7:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hybrid247 (Post 5744967)
If the coyotes don't stay in Phoenix, don't they have just as much of a chance of going to Seattle as Quebec City? Both cities would be great for hockey imo. I also wonder what will happen with the islanders. Last I heard they weren't able to renew an arena agreement and their future is still uncertain.

Seattle doesn't really have a building, nor ownership group. Maybe in 2-3 years but for right now QC is just about the only option. Much as Winnipeg was last year when Atlanta needed a home.

KC also lacks an interested owner. Vegas has neither (often brought up as an idea).

Hybrid247 Jun 24, 2012 8:47 PM

Wasn't Seattle planning to build an arena just like Qc?

Shinook Jun 24, 2012 9:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hybrid247 (Post 5745076)
Wasn't Seattle planning to build an arena just like Qc?

Seattle has just approved plans for renovating Key Arena up to NHL standards. This will take several years, so for now they are not in the mix. Give them a few more years and they will be ready.

Hybrid247 Jun 24, 2012 9:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shinook (Post 5745103)
Seattle has just approved plans for renovating Key Arena up to NHL standards. This will take several years, so for now they are not in the mix. Give them a few more years and they will be ready.

Thanks for the update. It'd be great if the Nords returned for next season. I'd also like to see a team in Seattle eventually.

roccerfeller Jun 24, 2012 9:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LosAngelesSportsFan (Post 5745001)
so are these the teams that have a chance of moving in the near future? Islanders, Devils, Phoenix?

What options are out there? Seattle, Quebec, Kansas City?

The only team with a chance of moving in the immediate future are the Coyotes

Islanders, if they move, won't be for sometime. And it might be to another area in New York.

Devils - no.

roccerfeller Jun 24, 2012 9:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hybrid247 (Post 5745119)
Thanks for the update. It'd be great if the Nords returned for next season. I'd also like to see a team in Seattle eventually.

Yeah Seattle would be a great addition. Not going to be the Yotes, if they relocated though.

Nicko999 Jun 25, 2012 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roccerfeller (Post 5744954)
Agreed on all fronts. As a former Habs junkie, and still a closet fan, I'm happy they picked him. For us on the Jets side, I'm pretty happy with our selection. Looks like Chevy is going towards a bruiser styler team with all the big bodies a la Boston. I have no problem with that ;) Love the Bruins

?:shrug:

:P

Nicko999 Jun 25, 2012 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The_Architect (Post 5744722)
I hate you Montreal. I wanted Galchenyuk.

Oh well, Morgan Rielly has probably the biggest ceiling of any defenseman in that draft, both him and Finn were great picks.

And Schenn traded for James van Reimsdyk! I'm still in the camp that Schenn would have rebounded in a big way under Carlyle, and I still wish him all the best. I am excited to see JVR on the Leafs though, great hockey trade. I remember earlier in the season Flyers fans insisting that the Leafs would have to add to Schenn to get JVR.. :haha:

I like the trade for the Leafs. Two prospects that never played up to their potential (Schenn, 5th overall pick in 2008... JVR, 2nd overall pick in 2007).

I think JVR is better than Schenn but he had 3 or 4 injuries this past season. He has scored over 20 goals in a season only once (21 goals) but will still help the Leafs... if he stays healthy.

LosAngelesSportsFan Jun 25, 2012 1:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roccerfeller (Post 5745124)
The only team with a chance of moving in the immediate future are the Coyotes

Islanders, if they move, won't be for sometime. And it might be to another area in New York.

Devils - no.

Thanks

roccerfeller Jun 25, 2012 5:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Nicko999 (Post 5745248)
?:shrug:

:P

haha....I used to be a huge habs fan but then the Jets came back. Now I'm just a closet Habs fan (I can never truly hate the Habs...they're my #2 till the Nords come back one day)

Though, I used to hate the Bruins but I started following them when Claude Jullien went there...I really liked him when we was with Montreal. I liked his style, and he fit in with the Bruins, and I couldn't help but enjoy watching him coach the team into a cup contender. And once you start getting into their rough style of play, you turn to like it. Besides...Boston has more Canadians than the Canadiens! :P

Quote:

Originally Posted by LosAngelesSportsFan (Post 5745292)
Thanks

no worries

I was rooting for you guys in the playoffs btw :) (on the west side)

freeweed Jun 25, 2012 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roccerfeller (Post 5745417)
I was rooting for you guys in the playoffs btw :) (on the west side)

Everyone was, once they eviscerated the Canucks.

LosAngelesSportsFan Jun 25, 2012 5:01 PM

its nice to see all the Kings love on here! Cant wait for the season to start

The_Architect Jun 26, 2012 1:26 PM

My prediction for the HOF class of 2012:

Sakic (duh)
Shanahan (given)
Sundin (probably)
Oates (hopefully)

Burns (finally)

Calgarian Jun 26, 2012 6:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shinook (Post 5745103)
Seattle has just approved plans for renovating Key Arena up to NHL standards. This will take several years, so for now they are not in the mix. Give them a few more years and they will be ready.

Weren't they planning on building a new arena beside the Baseball and Football Stadiums? would be a great idea, but it is probably 5 years off at the earliest.

Denscity Jun 26, 2012 7:17 PM

Vancouver Canucks' Pavel Bure is in the Hall of Fame! Surprised! Also surprised that Shanahan isnt.

Calgarian Jun 26, 2012 7:36 PM

Good for all that made it, they all definitely deserve to be there. Did the Canucks retire Bure's jersey? or honour it the way teams do now?
Kind of surprised Shannahan didn't make it, but there were a lot of talented people in this years class.

The Player I'm most curious about regarding the HHOF is Fleury, he had the numbers and was definitely one of the more telented guys in league history, he just came with a ton of baggage.

HHOF candidates this year. http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?id=53192

SHOFEAR Jun 26, 2012 9:33 PM

Fluery would just pawn is plaque for an 8 ball.

Sundin...really...

logan5 Jun 26, 2012 10:24 PM

:previous:

Please don't post here anymore. Take your immature comments to youtube.

Calgarian Jun 26, 2012 10:43 PM

Any Player that averages a point per game over their career definitely deserves to be in the HHOF IMO.

Boreal Jun 26, 2012 10:59 PM

As a huge Pavel Bure fan, I'm very happy for him. Just a sublime gunner in his time.

Nicko999 Jun 26, 2012 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SHOFEAR (Post 5747549)
Fluery would just pawn is plaque for an 8 ball.

Sundin...really...

Sundin is probably the only player that was never overrated by Leafs fans... he's that good.


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