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thenoflyzone May 27, 2017 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sunsetmountainland (Post 7817085)
yet this
number represents less than 9% of the total population and only 15% of urban residents

Exactly my point.

No one is denying Chinese tourism is on the rise. That's not the point i was making.

sunsetmountainland May 28, 2017 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 7817156)
Exactly my point.

No one is denying Chinese tourism is on the rise. That's not the point i was making.

I understand your point as it is correct.

You were comparing Chinese with Argentina or African airports.

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China is no different than Argentina or airports in Africa in that context. (Overly populous cities, little activity at their airports vs the city population.)
However, I do not think you comprehend the reality of the Chinese market. Even though you do not like the actual percentages of passengers to the market. It is not really relevant.

The fact that China is the world’s largest generator of outbound travel since 2012 and growing means more, than the percentage to population argument.

If you want percentages you should look at the growth of the Chinese airlines passenger traffic from the year 2000 to 2016.

Beijing Capital International Airport 2000 passenger traffic 21,691,077

Beijing Capital International Airport 2016 passenger traffic 94,393,414

The sheer volume with or without percentages is awesome

speedog May 28, 2017 3:41 PM

Tallest civilian ATC towers in the world - while YYC's ATC tower is the tallest in Canada it only rates 40th in this world wide list, link. There are some real beasts on that list. YYC rates 18th tallest in North America.

thenoflyzone May 28, 2017 6:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedog (Post 7817639)
Tallest civilian ATC towers in the world - while YYC's ATC tower is the tallest in Canada it only rates 40th in this world wide list, link. There are some real beasts on that list. YYC rates 18th tallest in North America.

I've contributed to that website. Added or corrected a half dozen or so airports, including several Canadian ones.

DrNest May 28, 2017 8:34 PM

That list doesn't include Vancouver Harbour tower, which at 446ft is technically the tallest in the world.

speedog May 29, 2017 1:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DrNest (Post 7817865)
That list doesn't include Vancouver Harbour tower, which at 446ft is technically the tallest in the world.

You should contact the owner if the list and let him know. Maybe the issue is that the rest of the building is not dedicated to airport activities but by all means, contact the owner of that list. Possibly it's not included because there are no hard surface runways, dunno.

jmt18325 May 30, 2017 1:50 AM

I just read on flyertalk that come October 29th, YYZ-DUB is being returned to mainline service from Rouge. It is currently scheduled to use an A330-300.

Prometheus Jun 7, 2017 2:38 PM

YVR April 2017:

1,853,067 +12.7%

Year-To-Date:

7,204,862 +8.4%

http://www.yvr.ca/en/about-yvr/facts-and-stats

p_xavier Jun 7, 2017 4:44 PM

http://aviationweek.com/awincommerci...-beirut-flight

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The Montreal-Beirut route is an elusive prize that Air Canada very much wants to win.

Fueled by the lobbying of Montreal’s large Lebanese expatriate and immigrant population, Air Canada has been pursuing the regulatory requirements to begin operating the route, Air Canada CEO Calin Rovinescu said at the IATA AGM in Cancun.

“We started the regulatory process in 2003,” Rovinescu said. However, geopolitical events intervened, and the carrier itself did not have the right equipment to make the route viable. “We are now at the stage where it looks like we can put the pin in it,” he said.

Part of the challenge of operating the route is ensuring right-level security screenings in Beirut, Rovinescu added. Air Canada is working with its Star Alliance partner Lufthansa, which operates in Beirut, to learn how to address these concerns.

The route would not be viable without the advent of the Boeing 787, he said. The aircraft is the right size and offers operating costs that make the route feasible. Air Canada’s network has been “transformed” by the 787, he said. Several routes, including Montreal–Algiers, Algeria; Vancouver–Melbourne, Australia; and Vancouver–Taipei, Taiwan, would not have made commercial sense without the aircraft, Rovinescu said.

Air Canada is halfway through its widebody aircraft fleet transformation. Before 2007, the carrier had a mix of Airbus A330s and A340s, and Boeing 767s. The 767s mostly have been transferred to its leisure carrier rouge, while the mainline carrier is reinventing its widebody aircraft fleet with a mix of Boeing 777s and 787s. It will keep “some” A330s, Air Canada president-passenger airlines Benjamin Smith said.

The carrier is expecting deliveries of nine further 787s on top of the 37 it already operates. After the last 787s are delivered, the widebody aircraft fleet plan will be complete, Smith said.

SteelTown Jun 7, 2017 5:53 PM

Flair Airlines buys NewLeaf travel company
B.C. based airline buys upstart discount travel company
http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/newl...ines-1.4149722

Flair Airlines has bought NewLeaf Travel Company, a discount flight seller that made headlines last year for offering flights between Canadian centres at rock bottom prices.

Kelowna, B.C.-based Flair said in a release Wednesday that it has bought NewLeaf Travel Company's assets, including its "marketing, selling and distribution engine."

The two companies have been linked since NewLeaf launched last summer, offering flights for as little as $59 one way between Canadian cities such as Abbotsford, Halifax, Edmonton, Hamilton and Winnipeg.

The company has completed more than 2,200 such flights and moved more than a quarter of a million passengers in the process.

Although it marketed itself as an airline, NewLeaf was in fact just a ticket seller, while Flair Airlines owns the planes and operates the flights.

Flair says passengers shouldn't expect any disruption as a result of the transaction.

"Expansion is planned for new destinations beginning this year, plus the fall and winter domestic schedule will be released shortly," Flair said in a release.

G.S MTL Jun 8, 2017 2:42 PM

BIG increase for YUL

April 2017

1 452 936 +17.3%

Domesitc 535 841 +13.2%
International 565 955 +25.7%
Transborder 351 140 +11.5%

YTD 5 542 466 +8.8%




wow! looking good for YUL and summer ain't here yet!

p_xavier Jun 8, 2017 2:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G.S MTL (Post 7828708)
BIG increase for YUL

April 2017

1 452 936 +17.3%

Domesitc 535 841 +13.3%
International 565 955 +25.7%
Transborder 351 140 +11.5%

YTD 5 542 466 +8.8%




wow! looking good for YUL and summer ain't here yet!

Guess that adding more direct flights really helps!

G.S MTL Jun 8, 2017 2:59 PM

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Originally Posted by d_jeffrey (Post 7828732)
Guess that adding more direct flights really helps!

quite a few increases as well... curious to know how many connect through YUL. This is great news tho! if we continue like this we will definitely pass the 18 million mark by the end of this year

Rico Rommheim Jun 8, 2017 2:59 PM

Yeah who knew investing in Montreal and its main international gateway would pay off?

p_xavier Jun 8, 2017 3:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G.S MTL (Post 7828739)
quite a few increases as well... curious to know how many connect through YUL. This is great news tho! if we continue like this we will definitely pass the 18 million mark by the end of this year

I guess that ADM will need to build its second terminal faster... The current capacity of YUL is 20M pax.

nname Jun 8, 2017 4:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by G.S MTL (Post 7828708)
BIG increase for YUL

April 2017

1 452 936 +17.3%

Domesitc 535 841 +13.2%
International 565 955 +25.7%
Transborder 351 140 +11.5%

YTD 5 542 466 +8.8%




wow! looking good for YUL and summer ain't here yet!

It's certainly interesting that every airport managed to get huge growth in the month of April, especially in the domestic sector (so these are not international connecting passengers, but rather, Canada O&D)...

April Total:
YUL +17.3%
YVR +12.7%
YEG +12.4%
YYZ +12.1%
YYC +8.3%
YOW +6.2%

April Domestic:
YEG +14.8%
YUL +13.2%
YVR +10.3%
YOW +7.8%
YYZ +6.4%
YYC +5.7%


4 of the 6 busiest airport have over 12% growth for April? What's going on here...

casper Jun 8, 2017 7:02 PM

Sounds like the laptop ban may be extended to 71 airports by the US including some domestic flights.

Weird. I would be surprised if Canada was not in the mix as well.

MalcolmTucker Jun 8, 2017 7:28 PM

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Originally Posted by casper (Post 7829039)
Sounds like the laptop ban may be extended to 71 airports by the US including some domestic flights.

Weird. I would be surprised if Canada was not in the mix as well.

Without preclearance for sure.

1overcosc Jun 8, 2017 10:40 PM

Yet more reason to avoid transiting through the US if possible.

The whole laptop thing is beyond stupid.. instead of focusing on what passengers are carrying, we need to start examining the passengers themselves, like what the Israelis do. It's way more effective.

thenoflyzone Jun 8, 2017 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nname (Post 7828854)
especially in the domestic sector (so these are not international connecting passengers, but rather, Canada O&D)...

Of course they can be international connecting passengers !

Ex. YOW-YUL-LHR.

The passenger who does this is counted as 1 domestic passenger and 1 international passenger. It has nothing to do with the O&D between YOW and YUL.


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