Some thoughts...

The San Diego Airport isn't going anywhere, anytime soon. One of two things will likely happen. Either the current location will stay and possibly expand if land opens up in the surrounding area, or it will move to Miramar if the Navy voluntarily allows it (don't hold your breath for this). It isn't going to be built in Imperial County nor will it be built offshore. Bottom line, barring a miracle, Lindbergh will be around for a long time.

All of the dreams of skyscrapers being built in excess of 500' in downtown San Diego are pretty much futile. As long as Lindbergh stays, the FAA restrictions stay as well.

The San Diego real estate market is probably not done dropping just yet, but the doomsday predictions by some pundits (mostly on other anti-real estate, those who bought are idiots, Armchair QB sites) are pie in the sky. Downtown San Diego property may well get cheaper in the short-term, but it's going to stay expensive and become even more expensive once the dust settles.

I'll be at the Padres vs. Giants game at Petco Park tonight, and I hope that Barry Bonds does not tie or break the major league home run record in our house.

That is all.

Friend of mine lives in Alta. Very nice building. ANKA, the Austrialian developers, did a nice job. Very upscale, contemporary finishes. Don't care much for the top of building though. I think they kinda messed it up adding a few more floors.

As far as prices of condos go, time will tell. All I know is that if the quality of life in an urban area improves, so will prices (long term). It is amazing to see what real estate costs in London and all other major international cities. If San Diego has leadership that will work to improve its infrastructure, invest in civic structures and parks...the future will look bright.

Why is that? Personally, I would use a cross-border terminal before I would use a floating one. ;)

In all seriousness, this proposal doesn't sound like a permanent airport solution...just a means of easing congestion. Maybe I misread though.

Its all yours!
 

Maybe you should read what the purpose of this board is, city compilations is listed under 'projects and construction' and the purpose is stated as,
"A place to report active highrise/urban development occurring in your city".

Does it say anything about pointing out what you see as problems with your city government? Why not do as other threads are doing and report on construction of highrises, I see some of that, but mostly it is plaintive threads about how the older people are not doing what you know is best for the city. Look at the Las Vegas forum and see how they do it.

I will leave this thread to those of you who think it is like Kos or one of the fringe political sites, or maybe it is like a lonely-hearts club site.

Adiu

It just doesn't seem right. I don't want our fine city to share a terminal with Tijuana. (Sorry TJ!)

Too late. :(

Oh well, fuck him.

Correction: Adieu....Bye.


As I heard on the radio, congrats to Barry and his very large syringe. I say better here, it robs him of his celebration at home, of course he'll wait to beat the record till he's in SF.

I see the cross border terminal as the most realistic of the far fetched airport remedies. Their approach is not affected by Otay, they have some space for an additional runway, and all landside facilities could be in the US, only the gates, taxiways, and runway would be in Mexico, sounds very feasible if it would get us some nonstop international flights outside the continent.

^I agree with you dl3000 about TJ being the most feasible, but I also think it is unacceptable. To think that the best option we have is to share an airport with a neighboring country is repugnant. I'll support trying to put a second runway at SDIA before supporting this. This plan and the plan to add only 10 gates to get us all the way until distant 2015 [sarcasm] is another example of the Airport Authority finding bogus solutions or non-solutions in order to guarantee their positions another 10 years and pander to their interests.

Wow, you're so clever. You must have learned that at the top.

I agree it doesn't seem right, but at this point, I think I would take a half-assed, second rate solution over what we're doing now (putting makeup on a pig).

^Agreed.

NBC Renderings
 

Ok, I'm gonna try again to post the NBC Renderings taken off the CCDC link to the Phase 1 Renderings:

First a wide shot, for some context:
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1434/...21fd81.jpg?v=0

Building 2 - 13-Story Office (facing Harbor Dr.)
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1185/...7a53f0.jpg?v=0

Building 3 - 28-Story Twin Tower Hotel (looking East, Southeast)
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1404/...1d6fd6.jpg?v=0

Building 4 - 10-Story "lighthouse" style Hotel (facing Harbor Dr.)
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1014/...59da63.jpg?v=0

Also Building 4 - view looking NE from Harbor Dr. (you can see the twin tower hotel in the upper left corner)
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1030/...276055.jpg?v=0

Building 5 - Navy Administration Complex (250 Feet, which most of us had already seen)
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1321/...d718a2.jpg?v=0

Interior Promenade looking south toward the colonial-style hotel building From E St. You can see the conceptual 30 foot wide digital screen at the terminal end of the promenade attached to the Colonial Hotel building. the foreground of this photo has the base of the twin tower hotel on the left and the office tower (building 2) on the right.
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1142/...dab75d.jpg?v=0

finally, the full site (from behind) looking NW from the Hyatt
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1153/...b1fea9.jpg?v=0

Again, the legend to the buildings, as you can see we're still waiting on Buildings 1 (officially), 6, and 7:
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniont...es/navy430.gif

Oh, and I know how excited a lot of you get about the park/open space, so I was able to get a rendering of the park in front of Building 1 from a friend of mine involved in the project:
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1220/...7e0117.jpg?v=0

That park looks great! :jester:

Thanks for posting those. :)

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PS: That was pretty good...

Yeah, but, the San Diego skyline beyond Petco confines will be immortalized for a long time. At least until Alex Rodriquez passes Bonds after he retires.

The twin tower hotel actually looks good. But there is nothing in building 4 that looks like a lighthouse. It looks more like the existing building on that site right now.

Waterfront Rendering
 

Check out an awesome waterfront rendering from a presentation posted at CCDC's website. See page 2 in particular.

http://www.ccdc.com/events/resources...esentation.pdf

What would it take to relocate all of Park Row's residents and mow down the entire complex? It KILLS everything.

^Maybe our effete Airport Authority will decide that Park Row can be turned into a giant heliport in order to solve our airport woes...

Nothing short of arson my friend...lol