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Calfan12 Dec 14, 2022 9:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Airboy (Post 9815499)
I suspect Porter will solidify YEG and YVR then probably start flights to the US out of YVR, Seattle Portland San Fran.

Talking with a family member with Porter. YYC was not on the list anytime soon.

Well is up to Porter Airlines top leadership team to decide whether they will add Calgary YYC flights.

Your family friend working for Porter doesn’t decide it.

Eventually Porter will add YYC, as it’s the 2nd largest market in Western Canada after Vancouver YVR!

Dominion301 Dec 14, 2022 9:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MountainView (Post 9815667)
Did Porter not try MLB (Melbourne, FL) for a short time from YOW and YQG (Windsor, ON)? Perhaps just YOW?

Will this also be the first ever pre-cleared (customs) PD routes as well? Or did the short lived MLB flights from YOW pre-clear?

Finally some good news for YOW. Clearly these are being established as feeder flights and is a good indication for PD's future at YOW. From zero to now two airlines on YQT-YOW.

Yes YOW-MLB was pre-cleared. YQG-MLB also operated. The routes ended when the subsidies ended as PD I think discovered the weight restriction to 55 pax on the Dash didn't work. Would not be surprised to see it eventually return seasonally on Saturdays with the E95s.

hehehe Dec 14, 2022 9:48 PM

By the way WS is ending YYZ-YXU mid January now.

Zmonkey Dec 14, 2022 9:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hehehe (Post 9815763)
By the way WS is ending YYZ-YXU mid January now.

Shouldn't be unexpected as all q400's are leaving yyz from WS.

YOWflier Dec 14, 2022 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MountainView (Post 9815667)
Did Porter not try MLB (Melbourne, FL) for a short time from YOW and YQG (Windsor, ON)? Perhaps just YOW?

Will this also be the first ever pre-cleared (customs) PD routes as well? Or did the short lived MLB flights from YOW pre-clear?

Woops forgot about that one. I was firmly in a non-Sun destination mindset.

Airboy Dec 14, 2022 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calfan12 (Post 9815749)
Well is up to Porter Airlines top leadership team to decide whether they will add Calgary YYC flights.

Your family friend working for Porter doesn’t decide it.

Eventually Porter will add YYC, as it’s the 2nd largest market in Western Canada after Vancouver YVR!

Hmmm West jet stays off the Island and Porter stays out of Calgary. just Hmmmming

Calfan12 Dec 15, 2022 1:12 AM

SWOOP NW22 INTERNATIONAL NETWORK EXPANSIONS

Swoop on Monday 12DEC22 announced further network expansion for Northern winter 2022/23 season, including the addition 7 new international routes. These seasonal new routes are scheduled until 30APR23 the latest for Northern winter season.

Abbotsford – Los Cabos eff 14DEC22 2 weekly (1 weekly from 16APR23)
Abbotsford – Puerto Vallarta eff 16DEC22 3 weekly (4 weekly 22JAN23 – 03FEB23, 2 weekly from 23APR23)
Edmonton – Mazatlán eff 17DEC22 2 weekly (3 weekly 17JAN23 – 28JAN23. Scheduled until 04APR23)
Hamilton – Montego Bay eff 28JAN23 2 weekly (Scheduled until 15APR23)
Hamilton – Punta Cana eff 11JAN23 1 weekly (2 weekly 18JAN23 – 28JAN23)
Toronto – Cancun eff 14DEC22 1 daily (6 weekly 01FEB23 – 08APR23, 5 weekly from 09APR23. Up to 8 weekly scheduled on selected weeks)
Winnipeg – Puerto Vallarta eff 14DEC22 2 weekly (3 weekly 22JAN23 – 04FEB23. Scheduled until 08APR23)

Previously reported new routes:
Hamilton – Fort Lauderdale eff 02DEC22 2 weekly
London ON – Cancun eff 03DEC22 2 weekly
London ON – Orlando Sanford eff 03DEC22 2 weekly (Previously served as London ON – Orlando International until March 2020)
Toronto – Varadero eff 11JAN23 3 weekly

Previously planned new route has been removed:
Toronto – Fort Lauderdale eff 01DEC22 5 weekly (6 from 10JAN23)

https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/221214-wonw22int

Calfan12 Dec 15, 2022 1:22 AM

WESTJET EXPANDS AIR FRANCE EUROPE CODESHARE IN 2Q23

WestJet in Spring 2023 plans to expand codeshare partnership with Air France to Scandinavia as well as Poland, coinciding with the return of WestJet’s seasonal Calgary – Paris CDG service on 13APR23. Planned new codeshare routes as follow.

WestJet operated by Air France
Paris CDG – Copenhagen
Paris CDG – Oslo
Paris CDG – Stockholm Arlanda
Paris CDG – Warsaw

https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/221214-wsafcodeshare

Dominion301 Dec 15, 2022 3:54 PM

And just like that YYC is next up for PD: https://www.newswire.ca/news-release...849685995.html

YYZ-YYC 2x daily

thenoflyzone Dec 15, 2022 5:07 PM

What’s with the slow but steady trickle of announcements? Do one big one and call it a day….it’s not like Porter didn’t know last week that they were going to serve YYC.

Airboy Dec 15, 2022 5:14 PM

Guess I'll have to take back my Porter not going into YYC. Should make for some interesting moves in YYZ area

Base Dec 15, 2022 5:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 9816455)
What’s with the slow but steady trickle of announcements? Do one big one and call it a day….it’s not like Porter didn’t know last week that they were going to serve YYC.

I like the trickle of announcements. Being new markets for Porter it gives them the opportunity to introduce themselves individually to each one with the announcements. It's also a good way to remain in the news cycle overall.

casper Dec 15, 2022 5:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 9816455)
What’s with the slow but steady trickle of announcements? Do one big one and call it a day….it’s not like Porter didn’t know last week that they were going to serve YYC.

It keeps the graphic artists busy and employed.

There website today has Mr. Porter (their Raccoon Mascot) ridging a horse with cowboy hat on and the Calgary stadium in the background.

I don't remember what they did for Vancouver. Perhaps Mr. Porter sipping a Latte or snowboarding.

whatnext Dec 15, 2022 5:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Base (Post 9816507)
I like the trickle of announcements. Being new markets for Porter it gives them the opportunity to introduce themselves individually to each one with the announcements. It's also a good way to remain in the news cycle overall.

Porter is appealing $130 million judgement against it in favour of the operators of YTZ. You’d think they’d be a little more cautious with their cash. Someone remind me, did they get a big Federal Covid cash handout?

hehehe Dec 15, 2022 6:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 9816455)
What’s with the slow but steady trickle of announcements? Do one big one and call it a day….it’s not like Porter didn’t know last week that they were going to serve YYC.

I guess it's to stay relevant in the news? I'm finding it a little odd too, but it's kind of fun to have a different announcement every day I guess?

With the rate they're going at with deliveries, we could have an announcement every few days for the next year! :haha:

MountainView Dec 15, 2022 7:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hehehe (Post 9816566)
I guess it's to stay relevant in the news? I'm finding it a little odd too, but it's kind of fun to have a different announcement every day I guess?

With the rate they're going at with deliveries, we could have an announcement every few days for the next year! :haha:

It's the 12 days of Christmas!!

Calfan12 Dec 15, 2022 7:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dominion301 (Post 9816360)
And just like that YYC is next up for PD: https://www.newswire.ca/news-release...849685995.html

YYZ-YYC 2x daily

Yep & YYC-YYZ will be a crowded route for Competition S23!

There’s already 1 out of the “fray” as Air Transat Calgary YYC - Toronto YYZ is (suspended/cancelled) this Spring/Summer 2023. Only its YYC to Montreal YUL route will be operating S23

But hey Porter Airlines on YYC - YYZ route can fill the Air Transat spot.

Calfan12 Dec 15, 2022 7:46 PM

LUFTHANSA NS23 INTERCONTINENTAL NETWORK CHANGES – 15DEC22

Lufthansa today (15DEC22) filed intercontinental operation changes for Northern summer 2023 season, effective 26MAR23 and 28OCT23. Planned service adjustment to date as follows.

Frankfurt – Montreal 26MAR23 – 30APR23 Reduce from 7 to 4 weekly, A340-300

Munich – Montreal 26MAR23 – 31MAY23 293-seater A350-900XWB replaces 318-seater

Munich – Vancouver 26MAR23 – 31MAY23 Reduce from 7 to 3 weekly, 293-seater A350-900XWB replaces 318-seater

https://www.aeroroutes.com/eng/221215-lhns23inc

Calfan12 Dec 15, 2022 8:38 PM

Porter Airlines adds Calgary to its list of new destinations.

TORONTO, Dec. 15, 2022 /CNW/ - Porter Airlines is adding Calgary to its growing network, with flights between Toronto Pearson International Airport (YYZ) and Calgary International Airport (YYC). The route will be served with its state-of-the-art Embraer E195-E2 aircraft.

Porter is taking its award-winning service further into Alberta, as Calgary marks the airline's second destination in the province. Edmonton was previously announced this week. Travellers will enjoy an elevated economy travel experience at highly competitive fares. All passengers enjoy no middle seats, free, fast Wi-Fi, complimentary beer and wine served in real glassware, and premium snacks.

The initial flight schedule starts on February 22, 2023, with two daily round-trip flights:

From Toronto Pearson to:
Flights begin: Calgary (YYC)
Feb. 22, 2023
Average daily, non-stop,
round-trips: 2
Round-trip introductory
fares, including all taxes
and fees, start at: $262


"With Porter, Calgarians can now also enjoy a new level of generosity and thoughtful service that is non-existent today in economy air travel," said Kevin Jackson, executive vice president and chief commercial officer, Porter Airlines. "We are offering a higher level of economy service at highly competitive fares and are changing the way people think about economy air travel. Porter provides more value for your money than with any other airline."

"As the gateway for Western Canada, YYC is proud to facilitate yet another option that connects Calgary with more direct access to Toronto," said Rob Palmer, Vice President, Commercial, Strategy & Chief Financial Officer. "With Porter being the third new airline to connect its fleet to YYC Calgary International Airport in under a year, the airline's entrance into the Alberta region signals strength in the industry's confidence in our airport and region. We look forward to working with Porter to deliver elevated experiences for our guests and bringing more economic benefits to our communities."

https://www.newswire.ca/news-release...849685995.html

Even YYC Airport is happy with the addition of Porter Airlines too!

Calfan12 Dec 15, 2022 8:55 PM

In 2023 Calgary YYC has 5 different airlines adding new flight routes.

WestJet (3)
Lynx Air (3)
Flair (1)
Porter Airlines (1)
Canadian North (1)

9 total additional new routes announced on 5 different airlines so far.

While Air Canada at YYC has been stagnant/cutting some routes, the last several years.


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