Originally Posted by lubicon (Post 8515211)

This is what I was wondering about. WestJet can get by as (I think) as they only operate the 737. Short term AC eats the salaries of their MAX pilots who are now sitting at home. If this goes on longer term then it will get interesting as this is not a great situation for them financially.

Originally Posted by Blader (Post 8515290)

AC has 24 frames, WS has 13. Both have trained pilots to fly the frames. Both have the frames parked. Both have a surplus of pilots sitting at home. Is my logic flawed?

Edit:
Now it maybe that WS pilots can fly all 737 frames and thus the impact of MAX frames is shared, and thus has a smaller impact on pilots flying. Nonetheless, the impact on both airlines, financially, is another matter.

Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 8515048)

AC no longer has ETOPS (Extended operations) certified A319/A320s (mainline or Rouge). Nor are the pilots on these frames ETOPS certified.

Definition of ETOPS: (for twin-engine planes) flights whose planned routing contains a point farther than 60 minutes flying time from an adequate airport at an approved one-engine inoperative cruise speed under standard conditions in still air.

This creates a problem for 737 Max routes that required ETOPS. All the cancelled flights on your list require ETOPS to operate, and are either too thin to operate with a B767 (which is also ETOPS certified), or there aren't any spare left. This is the same reason why all the YVR-Secondary Hawaii routes were the first to be cancelled as well.

YUL/YYZ-KEF doesn't require ETOPS, as you can be within 60 minutes of a suitable airport on one engine speed during the whole flight.

(The AC 737 Max is certified 180 min ETOPS. The mainline A319s were only 120 min certified, and some mainline A320s were 75 min, for smoother Eastern Caribbean ops. YVR-Hawaii requires 180 minute ETOPS, whereas Europe only requires 120 min.)

Now, all these 180 min certified ETOPS 737 pilots are sitting at home, doing nothing, and getting paid.......

What a clusterf**k for AC. But I have to admit, they are dealing with it admirably.

Originally Posted by MountainView (Post 8515636)

Interesting! And thank you for the explanation.

Is this why Air Canada mainline (A320), YOW-PUJ flies close to the coast and YUL-PUJ on Rouge (767) flies "direct" to PUJ (20-30 minutes quicker)?

If so, why does YUL-PTP (A320 mainline) fly direct and YOW-PUJ hug the coast?


Thanks for your insight!!

Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 8515973)

The A320 that operated that YUL-PTP flight has an HF radio on board, which is a requirement to transit the West Atlantic Route System (WATRS). The YOW-PUJ A320 didn't have one, so had to stay closer to shore in order to be within VHF radio coverage. All AC and Rouge 767s have HF.

Link to a map showing WATRS airspace:

https://www.icao.int/Meetings/AMC/MA...ceanalysis.pdf

Originally Posted by whywhyzee (Post 8516875)

I was looking into a HKG-YYZ trip and began searching Cathay Pacific, who have always run 2x daily in the summers to YYZ. Their website is only showing 1x daily as of the S19 season start (Winter is 10x weekly). I am hoping it's a glitch, it seems to be highly unlikely that they would cut the route that deeply, especially given it's size. I was just wondering if anyone has any actual confirmation of the status of the early flight they could pass along.

Originally Posted by nname (Post 8518576)

Update for AC service to/from India...

Starting April 4th, AC43 will no longer operate DEL-YYZ, new schedule is

AC43 DEL-YVR with 1:45am arrival
AC1043 YVR-YYZ with 3:30am departure and 10:51am arrival

AC42 still run YYZ-DEL non-stop.

I guess YYZ-bound passengers will clear custom at YVR in the middle of the night? I wonder if each segments can be booked separately...

Arrival time at YYZ is pretty much the same with DEL-CPH-YYZ, but should be slightly better if it becomes domestic arrival?

Originally Posted by Jaws (Post 8518735)

Connected through YUL on the weekend and the US CBP officer gave me a hard time with only traveling with Nexus. She said that it was a “requirement” that I also have my passport.

Originally Posted by Rogie (Post 8518835)

^^You only need NEXUS for land and sea crossings. For air crossings, for whatever reason, you sill need your passport.

Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 8518839)

I flew YUL-FLL beginning of this month. She got on my nerves. Wouldn't surprise me to find out it was the same girl.