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1overcosc Nov 15, 2016 2:27 AM

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Originally Posted by hipster duck (Post 7622298)
When it comes to domestic connectivity, YOW might actually be the second most comprehensive "hub" after Pearson. True, you can fly to more domestic destinations out of YVR, YYC or YUL, but they're usually smaller cities in the same province/region rather than provincial capitals on the other side of the country.

YOW is also the main hub in Eastern Canada for flights to the Arctic. For example, if you want to get from Toronto to Iqaluit, you actually have to connect in Ottawa.

zahav Nov 15, 2016 6:01 AM

It looks like Air Canada is in the middle of updating their domestic summer scheds, lots of new frequencies loaded but many will be removed (ie. there are two 10:30am YVR-YYZ departures right now with different flight #s). Interesting note, they are renumbering many of their longstanding flight #s, in a more "orderly" way. For instance, YVR-YUL used to be all over the map (AC198, AC159, AC112, AC182 etc...) Now YVR-YUL is AC300, 302, 304, 306, 308, and 310. YVR-YOW AC340, 342, 344 (used to be 166, 188, 138). I'm not going to list them all LOL but for someone with mild OCD like me I like this change :)

nname Nov 15, 2016 8:15 AM

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Originally Posted by zahav (Post 7622927)
It looks like Air Canada is in the middle of updating their domestic summer scheds, lots of new frequencies loaded but many will be removed (ie. there are two 10:30am YVR-YYZ departures right now with different flight #s). Interesting note, they are renumbering many of their longstanding flight #s, in a more "orderly" way. For instance, YVR-YUL used to be all over the map (AC198, AC159, AC112, AC182 etc...) Now YVR-YUL is AC300, 302, 304, 306, 308, and 310. YVR-YOW AC340, 342, 344 (used to be 166, 188, 138). I'm not going to list them all LOL but for someone with mild OCD like me I like this change :)

Bad news is that some routes already overflow its allocation... namely YVR-YYZ and YUL-YYZ :D

zahav Nov 15, 2016 8:22 AM

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Originally Posted by nname (Post 7622984)
Bad news is that some routes already overflow its allocation... namely YVR-YYZ and YUL-YYZ :D

I know, argh... in a perfect world every flight # would be in sequence ;)

Airboy Nov 15, 2016 4:17 PM

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Originally Posted by 1overcosc (Post 7622795)
YOW is also the main hub in Eastern Canada for flights to the Arctic. For example, if you want to get from Toronto to Iqaluit, you actually have to connect in Ottawa.

Canadian North Just announced a reduction in frequency to YFB.

SteelTown Nov 16, 2016 11:05 PM

NewLeaf will fly from Hamilton to Orlando (MLB) starting January 15th.

CalgaryCheese Nov 17, 2016 12:54 AM

New leaf will fly from Calgary and Edmonton to Phoenix-Mesa as well I believe

SteelTown Nov 17, 2016 1:12 AM

Video Link

SteelTown Nov 18, 2016 3:09 PM

NewLeaf will fly passengers from Hamilton to Florida this winter

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/hamilt...nter-1.3854055

Hamilton's newest low-cost air carrier is offering new flights to Florida this winter.

Newleaf and Flair Airlines will fly from Hamilton to Orlando and Melbourne, Fla. The flights will run from Jan. 15 to the end of April, but the company may extend the schedule.

Flights from Hamilton to Florida were always a goal, said Jim Young, NewLeaf president and CEO. And the John C. Munro Hamilton International Airport is happy too.

"Florida is a highly demanded destination for our passengers," said Vijay Bathija, president and CEO of the airport, in a media release Wednesday.

The more flights NewLeaf adds, the better for airport officials anxious to boost passenger flight numbers out of Hamilton.

Passenger numbers have fallen short of expectations over the years, drawing frustration from city councillors. But this August, months after NewLeaf announced its launch, those numbers started to turn around.

In 2015, the airport saw 312,839 passenger flights, down from 332,378 in 2014 and 341,470 in 2013. In August, Bathija told council earlier this year, they shot ahead of last year's numbers.

Bigtime Nov 18, 2016 4:10 PM

It is interesting to see how New Leaf has started offering services from YYC, one of the airports they almost made a point of saying they would avoid to help offer the cheapest fares to passengers.

1overcosc Nov 18, 2016 6:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigtime (Post 7626798)
It is interesting to see how New Leaf has started offering services from YYC, one of the airports they almost made a point of saying they would avoid to help offer the cheapest fares to passengers.

They must have gotten a good enough deal at Phoenix-Mesa (a secondary airport) to offset the cost of operating out of Calgary.

yyzer Nov 18, 2016 8:13 PM

posted today at airliners.net... looks like TAP Air Portugal are indeed returning to YYZ - they are already hiring a District Sales Manager... :cheers:

http://ca.indeed.com/viewjob?from=ap...fce77904dd68be

Johnny Aussie Nov 19, 2016 1:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigtime (Post 7626798)
It is interesting to see how New Leaf has started offering services from YYC, one of the airports they almost made a point of saying they would avoid to help offer the cheapest fares to passengers.

So far their plan of flying into smaller markets has been really working well for them!

YXJ, YKA, YYJ, YXE, YQR... gone

They cannot ignore that the largest Canadian markets are YYZ, YVR, YUL and YYC. Was only a matter of time... our secondary cities are not the size of American ones... to paint a comparison.

CalgaryCheese Nov 19, 2016 2:59 AM

Could this be the end of WestJet's 767s? What's next?

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/business...leet-1.3858528

thenoflyzone Nov 19, 2016 4:27 AM

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Originally Posted by yyzer (Post 7627072)
posted today at airliners.net... looks like TAP Air Portugal are indeed returning to YYZ - they are already hiring a District Sales Manager... :cheers:

http://ca.indeed.com/viewjob?from=ap...fce77904dd68be

Not necessarily. YUL might get the flight first. For one, TP are on record as saying YUL first, then YYZ, and also, there would probably be less risk in starting YUL, what with only TS flying the route non stop on a seasonal basis. Although TS does plan to go year round on the route as of summer 2017.

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/...as-of-16sep16/

As for YYZ-LIS, 3 carriers already operate the route non stop, 2 of them year round. Tap would be the 4th carrier on the route.

That being said, TAP is obviously interested in starting both YYZ and YUL, so they clearly see potential in both cities. One thing TAP can offer that the other carriers can't, is connections to places like North Africa and the rest of Europe. YUL-North Africa in particular, is huge, and TAP can offer good connections to CMN, ALG, DKR, RAK, TNG, etc..

zahav Nov 19, 2016 6:12 AM

Surprised no one has posted this yet! Westjet is really not being discrete about driving New Leaf into the ground, their route announcements are coming just days after New Leaf's announcements LOL. They must really be hoping this competition will kill New Leaf quickly...

News Releases

WestJet welcomes Mesa, Arizona, to its growing network

Canada's low-fare leader adds more service to the Arizona desert

CALGARY, Nov. 18, 2016 /CNW/ - WestJet announced today it will begin serving Phoenix-Mesa Gateway Airport from Calgary and Edmonton starting January 19, 2017. Seats will be available for purchase by calling WestJet at 1-888-937-8538 (1-888-WESTJET) and through travel agencies as of 12 p.m. MST on Monday, November 21, and on westjet.com as of 12 p.m. MST on Tuesday, November 22.

"We are proud of our expanding network of more than 100 cities in over 20 countries, and our reputation as an established, trusted brand with more than two decades of service to Canadians," said Bob Cummings, WestJet Executive Vice-President, Commercial. "We have provided hundreds of thousands of our guests with non-stop service between Canada and Phoenix since 2004, and now look forward to bringing low fares and our signature brand of caring, friendly service to our second destination in Arizona."

http://westjet2.mediaroom.com

eemy Nov 19, 2016 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by zahav (Post 7627600)
Surprised no one has posted this yet! Westjet is really not being discrete about driving New Leaf into the ground, their route announcements are coming just days after New Leaf's announcements LOL. They must really be hoping this competition will kill New Leaf quickly...

I thought only Air Canada did stuff like that? :runaway:

thenoflyzone Nov 19, 2016 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jeremy_haak (Post 7627672)
I thought only Air Canada did stuff like that? :runaway:

They learned from the best ! ;)

flipv Nov 19, 2016 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 7627546)
Not necessarily. YUL might get the flight first. For one, TP are on record as saying YUL first, then YYZ, and also, there would probably be less risk in starting YUL, what with only TS flying the route non stop on a seasonal basis. Although TS does plan to go year round on the route as of summer 2017.

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/...as-of-16sep16/

As for YYZ-LIS, 3 carriers already operate the route non stop, 2 of them year round. Tap would be the 4th carrier on the route.

That being said, TAP is obviously interested in starting both YYZ and YUL, so they clearly see potential in both cities. One thing TAP can offer that the other carriers can't, is connections to places like North Africa and the rest of Europe. YUL-North Africa in particular, is huge, and TAP can offer good connections to CMN, ALG, DKR, RAK, TNG, etc..

But why would they hire a district sales manager in Toronto whose only language requirement is Portuguese (aside from the obvious English) if he's to serve the YUL market?

thenoflyzone Nov 19, 2016 1:37 PM

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Originally Posted by flipv (Post 7627697)
But why would they hire a district sales manager in Toronto whose only language requirement is Portuguese (aside from the obvious English) if he's to serve the YUL market?

If you read the job description posted, under main objective, it says....

"Achieve established revenue objectives for assigned target Agencies and Corporate customers in Canada." At the bottom of the page, it does say "travel as required".

It wouldn't be too far fetched to think that they might want one district sales manager in charge of both YYZ/YUL.

If they plan on opening YUL and YYZ in close succession, hiring a district sales manager only in Toronto makes sense.


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