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esquire Jan 30, 2016 5:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jthetzel (Post 7318887)
Off-topic, but just wanted to mention that food-borne botulism is very rare and is not spread through consumption of poultry. The bacteria that produces the toxin needs a low-oxygen environment to grow, so outbreaks are classically associated with poor canning methods. Birds themselves can become infected with botulism (e.g. through eating decomposing stuff in marshlands), but it wouldn't be transmitted to humans, unless you have a habit of eating decomposing birds in low-oxygen environments. If you do find yourself with a nagging case of botulism, you most likely are a very dedicated user of intravenous heroin.

Cuba: At least you aren't likely to contract botulism!

SignalHillHiker Feb 1, 2016 10:20 PM

We truly are a ground-breakingly innovative city. I'm sure every city in Canada - nay, the world - will follow in our footsteps soon enough. St. John's has come up with an idea that's sure to revolutionize airports:

Public transit access!

Now, it's only a possibility right now. It'll require some studies and busses with experimental new infrastructure called "luggage racks". But the important thing is someone here had the spark that became this idea. It COULD happen.

2016. What a time to be alive.

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/n...vice-1.3428427

begratto Feb 1, 2016 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SignalHillHiker (Post 7321080)
We truly are a ground-breakingly innovative city. I'm sure every city in Canada - nay, the world - will follow in our footsteps soon enough. St. John's has come up with an idea that's sure to revolutionize airports:

Public transit access!

Now, it's only a possibility right now. It'll require some studies and busses with experimental new infrastructure called "luggage racks". But the important thing is someone here had the spark that became this idea. It COULD happen.

2016. What a time to be alive.

http://www.cbc.ca/beta/news/canada/n...vice-1.3428427

This would be much better than Quebec City which only has very, very limited service to its airport: 3 buses per day!

SkahHigh Feb 1, 2016 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by begratto (Post 7321115)
This would be much better than Quebec City which only has very, very limited service to its airport: 3 buses per day!

Quebec City is retarded when it comes to public transit.

GreaterMontréal Feb 2, 2016 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by SkahHigh (Post 7321168)
Quebec City is retarded when it comes to public transit.

Québec les aime ses autoroutes.

big T Feb 2, 2016 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by GreaterMontréal (Post 7321255)
Québec les aime ses autoroutes.

C'est vrai pour le Québec en entier, malheureusement (merci le MTQ, aka le ministère de la voiture individuelle). Le dernier investissement notable en transport en commun à Montreal remonte à 10 ans (ligne Orange à Laval), qui a eu pour principal effet de saturer une infrastructure déjà sur-utilisée. Depuis, tout ce qu'on a eu ce sont des coupes de service d'autobus.

Pendant ce temps, les autres provinces utilisent le cash fédéral pour s'améliorer. Ici, on continue de l'"investir" dans les routes...

Autre exemple, puisqu'on en parle: le bus 747 pour YUL. A l'heure de pointe, qui se trouve etre l'heure où un grand nombre de personnes cherchent à rejoindre l'aéroport, il est systématiquement pris dans le traffic. Quand les conditions sur la 20 sont mauvaises, il passe par le centre de Lachine. Résultat: le trajet peut prendre 35 à 110 minutes, et la fréquence à récemment été réduite ce qui cause souvent de devoir attendre le deuxième autobus pour pouvoir embarquer. Pas idéal quand on a un vol à attraper.

1overcosc Feb 2, 2016 2:17 AM

We don't have transit service to the airport in Kingston. Granted, we barely have an airport. Only a handful of flights to Toronto per day all on little planes. Only about a quarter of air passengers originating in Kingston actually fly out of our airport (we mostly just drive or train to YYZ and sometimes YOW or YUL or SYR), too. If we ran buses there I bet most of them would be empty or have 1 or 2 passengers on board at most.

SkahHigh Feb 2, 2016 2:30 AM

At the same time, YQB doesn't need much transit to the airport yet, it's not busy enough.

The only remaining airports who should be getting rail transit are YUL and YYC (not dedicated shuttles though).

North_Regina_Boy Feb 2, 2016 3:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SkahHigh (Post 7321406)
At the same time, YQB doesn't need much transit to the airport yet, it's not busy enough.

The only remaining airports who should be getting rail transit are YUL and YYC (not dedicated shuttles though).

I would think YEG Should be getting one too

SkahHigh Feb 2, 2016 3:58 AM

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Originally Posted by North_Regina_Boy (Post 7321484)
I would think YEG Should be getting one too

Not busy enough yet. Unless the train is part of an actual transit line, but even then...

YEG is pretty far from an urban area no?

jmt18325 Feb 2, 2016 4:02 AM

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Originally Posted by SkahHigh (Post 7321513)
Not busy enough yet. Unless the train is part of an actual transit line, but even then...

YEG is pretty far from an urban area no?

Nearly 31 kms from the city centre.

Edmonton doesn't have anywhere near the traffic of the big 4 airports. I would think such a connection is a long way off.

speedog Feb 2, 2016 4:13 AM

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Originally Posted by SkahHigh (Post 7321406)
At the same time, YQB doesn't need much transit to the airport yet, it's not busy enough.

The only remaining airports who should be getting rail transit are YUL and YYC (not dedicated shuttles though).

Calgary's Saddletowne LRT station probably needs less than 8km of track to be laid down to get to YYC and when the Green Line LRT gets built in the north end, it'll be around 7km to that line.

For now, the Calgary Transit bus service will have to do.

SignalHillHiker Feb 2, 2016 11:50 AM

:haha: Totally assumed every other city had all their public transit options integrated into their airports. Surprised to see it's a mixed bag.

Taeolas Feb 2, 2016 1:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SignalHillHiker (Post 7321727)
:haha: Totally assumed every other city had all their public transit options integrated into their airports. Surprised to see it's a mixed bag.

Actually, Transit to Airports often feels to be one of the last things a city seems to consider; I get the feeling they often don't want to deal with luggage on the transit buses, plus the taxi companies usually fight any such extensions since airport runs are their bread and butter. Toss in that many airports are on the outskirts of the city, often outside city lines (which in some areas may make extending transit to them impossible due to "Transit may only be in city boundaries" laws), and its understandable why that tends to be a hodgepodge affair.

It seems to me that when the airport (and associated city) are big enough to warrant a Public Transit connection; the airport and related industries will probably have enough workers in the area to keep the transit viable; Airline passengers using the service is just gravy.

Coldrsx Feb 2, 2016 2:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jmt18325 (Post 7321516)
Nearly 31 kms from the city centre.

Edmonton doesn't have anywhere near the traffic of the big 4 airports. I would think such a connection is a long way off.

Edmonton has the LRT and 747 bus connection, which I use almost exclusively, that goes from the south terminus (Century Park) to YEG.

I have a bus pass so it is $5 ($8.30 if no pass) to get from Downtown to the airport.

Door to door is 50-55mins.

Excellent option and is well used by workers and travellers alike.

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Route 747 Bus Service
Edmonton Transit System's (ETS) Route 747 is an express bus service that runs every half hour (during peak hours - see full schedule below) between EIA and the Century Park bus and LRT station, providing superb transit connections across the city. This bus service runs every day of the week starting at 4:10 am from Century Park and 4:34 am from EIA.

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http://flyeia.com/sites/default/file...timetable2.jpg
http://flyeia.com

esquire Feb 2, 2016 3:35 PM

YWG is served by two bus routes, but unlike most Canadian cities the terminal is so central that it's a pretty cheap taxi ride (around $15 from downtown and much of the city).

Between that and the fact that our terminal doesn't have large volumes of people coming and going I'd expect that transit service there won't expand much beyond that for quite a while... maybe Winnipeg Transit might add more service frequency if needed, but that's it.

ghYHZ Feb 2, 2016 4:40 PM

Halifax Metro Transit runs between YHZ and downtown: $3.50 for the 37km trip. Buses run about every half hour. Not a route ‘747’…… but a ‘320’ which is quite representative of the numerousness ‘Airbuses’ here.

https://www.halifax.ca/transit/Sched...s/Route320.pdf

craneSpotter Feb 2, 2016 5:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SkahHigh (Post 7321513)
Not busy enough yet. Unless the train is part of an actual transit line, but even then...

YEG is pretty far from an urban area no?

I would think O&D passengers would have the biggest impact on the use of transit to/from airport.

Is there a source that counts just O&D passengers for each airport and excludes the connecting passengers - who will not use transit.

I just suspect that YEG and YYC are a lot closer in O&D numbers than most would think.




In other news, YVR finished 2015 with 20,315,978 passengers (enplaned and deplaned).
That is a growth rate of 4.9% yoy or +957,775 passengers! The largest areas of growth were in Transborder (+8.0%) and Asia Pacific (+7.4%).

1overcosc Feb 2, 2016 5:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SignalHillHiker (Post 7321727)
:haha: Totally assumed every other city had all their public transit options integrated into their airports. Surprised to see it's a mixed bag.

Almost every mainland city does have transit to the airport, it's just in most cities, it's only bus routes. Only Toronto and Vancouver have rail links. Ottawa has a rail link to the airport approved & shovel ready, but not funded.

SFUVancouver Feb 2, 2016 8:27 PM

It's about 20km from the southern terminus of Edmonton's LRT system to the terminal. That's a ways, but not insurmountable, especially with low-cost at-grade LRT paralleling Hwy 2.


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