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chris08876 Dec 31, 2018 3:28 PM

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Note the elevation boost, thus, CPT appears as tall as 432 Park or close to it, thanks to the 80-88 ft boost due to elevation. So when all set and done 1,550 ft + 80 ft. This will be apparent when cross referencing other towers, like 432 Park at MSL = 0' or from a far. 432 Park does get a boost due to the topography, but not as much as CPT will. All the 57th Street super talls will gain a little apparent height. Also, note the dramatic difference of 300' compared to One57. Doesn't look like 300 ft, but closer to 400' in difference as of 12-31-18.

Can see the effect in the photo below. Its one benefit of NYC from certain areas, that the skyline is slightly aided by elevation. (SF is another city in which things appear taller than they really are). But it looks cool!!!


https://newyorkyimby.com/wp-content/.../njskyline.jpg
Credit: Michael Young via NYY

TonyL Dec 31, 2018 5:41 PM

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Originally Posted by chris08876 (Post 8422257)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Note the elevation boost, thus, CPT appears as tall as 432 Park or close to it, thanks to the 80-88 ft boost due to elevation. So when all set and done 1,550 ft + 80 ft. This will be apparent when cross referencing other towers, like 432 Park at MSL = 0' or from a far. 432 Park does get a boost due to the topography, but not as much as CPT will. All the 57th Street super talls will gain a little apparent height. Also, note the dramatic difference of 300' compared to One57. Doesn't look like 300 ft, but closer to 400' in difference as of 12-31-18.

Can see the effect in the photo below. Its one benefit of NYC from certain areas, that the skyline is slightly aided by elevation. (SF is another city in which things appear taller than they really are). But it looks cool!!!


https://newyorkyimby.com/wp-content/.../njskyline.jpg
Credit: Michael Young via NYY

CPT is going to absolutely dominate everything in Midtown. Jesus that is huge.

TK2001 Dec 31, 2018 7:12 PM

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NYguy Dec 31, 2018 8:04 PM

End of the year walk around...


DECEMBER 30, 2018


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faridnyc Dec 31, 2018 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TonyL (Post 8422394)
CPT is going to absolutely dominate everything in Midtown. Jesus that is huge.

Imagine the come back of it s spire make it a 1800ft towet and it will utterly domine Manhattan!!!!!!!

chris08876 Jan 1, 2019 8:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TonyL (Post 8422394)
CPT is going to absolutely dominate everything in Midtown. Jesus that is huge.

I agree. Its quite a sight. I'll tell you one tower that will also dominate, Stienway.

Even though its the tallest building by slender aspect ratio in the world, it kinda looks a little bulky from certain angles. I think the aspect ratio of Steinway will turn more heads than CPT. Not to mention pound for pound, its design is leagues better than CPT. I think its the best tower to rise in the last 20 years.

45 Broad and 9 Dekalb promise to be winners, so possibly in their final form, Steinway might have some aesthetic competition.

From renderings to reality, Steinway is a epic success. I still think CPT really should have a spire. I know sometimes folks bitch about spires (too many, cheap)... but CPT really would pull it off nicely. It just kinda looks incomplete without one, IMO based on the renderings with/without spire.

TonyL Jan 1, 2019 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by TK2001 (Post 8422488)

These posts along with NYGuy's updates are one of the main reasons I come here. Is there one of these for the other towers?

TK2001 Jan 2, 2019 1:26 AM

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Originally Posted by TonyL (Post 8423269)
These posts along with NYGuy's updates are one of the main reasons I come here. Is there one of these for the other towers?

I've made some for 111 West 57 and One Vanderbilt, and a few others

NYguy Jan 2, 2019 5:36 AM

From some angles, CPT and 220 look extremely close, but there's a street running between them...


https://www.instagram.com/p/BsHJ3QvAILh/

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https://www.instagram.com/p/Br5Q6ClFq02/

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Dylan Dude Jan 2, 2019 6:14 AM

True that, they do look close, I actually thought they were almost touching in your first pic and I was pretty disappointed, thought it was like China where you look out the window and look right into the other buildings windows. Weird optical illusion lol

pianowizard Jan 2, 2019 2:57 PM

It sucks that they are blocking each other's views. Before the developers purchased the sites, did they know this would happen? The obstructed views might drive down condo values.

The Norwegian Jan 2, 2019 3:42 PM

I really hoped that this tower together with Steinway would make 432 Park Ave stand less out. Sadly, after looking at pictures from the skyline, except those taken more from the west, it still dominates billionaires’ row and northern Midtown when viewing from a distance. I’m afraid that will continue, even though Central Park Tower ends up quite a bit taller. The facade with the white cement and big windows makes 432 much more noticeable than CPT, which will blend more in with the sky and surrounding towers - plus the fact that 432 Park stands so alone. It completely steals the attention from CPT and Steinway in many skyline pics from afar….

The only hope is 270 Park Ave with some decent height to balance it, at least when viewing Midtown from the south

NYguy Jan 2, 2019 4:53 PM

:slob:
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Originally Posted by pianowizard (Post 8423617)
It sucks that they are blocking each other's views. Before the developers purchased the sites, did they know this would happen? The obstructed views might drive down condo values.


That's one of the reasons CPT is cantilevered slightly to the east. The other is the Nordstrom below. Barnett stalled Vornado's tower as long as he could.



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Originally Posted by The Norwegian (Post 8423664)
I really hoped that this tower together with Steinway would make 432 Park Ave stand less out. Sadly, after looking at pictures from the skyline, except those taken more from the west, it still dominates billionaires’ row and northern Midtown when viewing from a distance. I’m afraid that will continue, even though Central Park Tower ends up quite a bit taller. The facade with the white cement and big windows makes 432 much more noticeable than CPT, which will blend more in with the sky and surrounding towers -


I find that to be just the opposite. It's 432 Park and it's brightness that sometimes gets "lost" in the background. CPT will be 154 ft taller, and will be as visible (moreso due to it being taller) as the rest of the shiny towers on the skyline.

NYguy Jan 3, 2019 12:59 AM

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NYCLuver Jan 3, 2019 11:41 PM

January 3rd, 2019

(Taken with my cell phone leaving the Met Museum)

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NYguy Jan 4, 2019 1:07 AM

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mrnyc Jan 4, 2019 9:35 PM

from times square this afternoon —


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NYguy Jan 5, 2019 3:57 AM

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NYguy Jan 5, 2019 4:31 AM

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Michagain Jan 5, 2019 8:21 AM

I'm really digging the tower-studded midtown skyline, not to mention Hudson Yards, downtown stuff, etc. IMO, midtown as-a-skyline has never looked better after years of "plateaued" stagnation—roof height-wise.

Extremely impressive on my way to LGA this morning; flying over the city.


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