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ILNY Jul 17, 2017 5:08 AM

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111 West 57th Street by NyConstructionPhoto, on Flickr

Skyguy_7 Jul 17, 2017 1:17 PM

Beautiful shots! I trust only SHOP to turn those currently hideous East and West shear-walls into something of a masterpiece. Not even mad!

NYguy Jul 17, 2017 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyguy_7 (Post 7867227)
I trust only SHOP to turn those currently hideous East and West shear-walls into something of a masterpiece.


Yes indeed...


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Where are the concrete core walls? They are the dark grey elements that line the entirety of the longer sides of the building and also wrap around the stairs and elevators. So, to provide enough lateral support for this very slender structure, the designers have effectively placed their entire floor plan inside the structural core, there really is no separate wrap around gravity system to follow after the core is built*.

Now, why doesn't every building do this? As previously noted, there is a major trade off, you'll notice this structure can only accommodate tiny, dare I say, prison cell like, windows along the two long faces of the building. You'll notice the rooms with these windows are thoughtfully laid out to be bathrooms and closets, where the impact is minimal. Presumably the structure is oriented on its site so that the favorable site lines for views are at the top and bottom of the above plan, otherwise you'd really be missing out.

NYguy Jul 25, 2017 1:06 AM

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Level 27 and climbing at 111w57

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chris08876 Jul 25, 2017 1:33 AM

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NYguy Jul 25, 2017 11:24 PM

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1Boston Jul 26, 2017 5:45 PM

Damn this thing is absolutely shooting up. Whats the floor per week on this thing? Seems like one of the fastest i've seen.

Skyy Jul 26, 2017 9:41 PM

From the pictures, it's risen 3 floors in the past month. Not sure if that rate will increase now that they're above the surrounding buildings

Guiltyspark Jul 26, 2017 10:25 PM

Read today that they are having major financial trouble.

NYguy Jul 26, 2017 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Guiltyspark (Post 7876710)
Read today that they are having major financial trouble.

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Originally Posted by chris08876 (Post 7860943)
Sounds like a minor hiccup...

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Investor in 111 West 57th St. claims project faces $100M shortfall


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TRD

Same stuff.

WonderlandPark2 Jul 28, 2017 12:59 AM

And there are lawsuits and they already potentially defaulted on part of the loan. The F word is bandied about (foreclosure). oy.

Curbed article:

The world’s skinniest proposed supertall, 111 West 57th Street, may be imperiled, the New York Post has learned. One of the investors on the project is suing the developers and the lender over alleged construction cost overruns.

The lawsuit, filed in the Manhattan Supreme Court, alleges that the project is already $50 million over budget when it hasn’t even reached 20-stories yet. Eventually the building is proposed to rise to 1,421 feet with 82 stories.

This investor, AmBase, has specifically blamed JDS’s Michael Stern, and Property Markets Group’s Kevin Maloney for the cost overruns, according to the Post. The increase in cost is allegedly due to the developers not accounting for the cost of construction cranes.

This seems to be the second lawsuit lobbed by AmBase against the developers. They sued JDS and Property Markets Group last year too, according to The Real Deal, alleging that the developers were trying “to dilute its stake” in the project. Previously TRD had also reported that AmBase paid $56 million towards a 59 percent stake in the project in 2015, but was unable to meet subsequent capital contributions.

In TRD’s article from earlier this month, the investor told the publication that the developers were facing up to a $100 million cash shortfall on the project. An anonymous source working on the project denied this claim to TRD.

The Post is now reporting that the developers also defaulted on a $25 million mezzanine loan from Spruce Capital Partners. Spruce allegedly looked to take over the property, but a judge blocked these foreclosure proceedings until a hearing that’s set to take place in the middle of August.

The legal counsel for JDS issued the following statement to Curbed:

"What Ambase's counsel stated happened today is not what happened. This is a baseless lawsuit which we will fully defend in court."

nylkoorB Jul 28, 2017 9:02 PM

Here's hoping everything's OK

NYguy Jul 28, 2017 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by nylkoorB (Post 7878824)
Here's hoping everything's OK

As far as we're concerned, everything is fine. Let the deep pockets settle their issues in court. The building continues to rise on schedule.

Crawford Jul 29, 2017 1:41 AM

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Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 7878957)
As far as we're concerned, everything is fine. Let the deep pockets settle their issues in court. The building continues to rise on schedule.

Project is fully financed. Nuisance lawsuit from rejected investors will be dismissed.

NYguy Jul 30, 2017 3:49 AM

The stealth supertalls begin their assault on the skyline...


Phil JACKSON

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chris08876 Jul 31, 2017 12:13 AM

My money's on 111 W 57th to eclipse Verre and CPT to the 1,050 ft mark if we take the shortest supertall rising in this 3-way race (Verre).

gramsjdg Jul 31, 2017 2:08 AM

I'm all in favor of the super skinny, supertall trend as it allows for sunlight penetration in the same way that the old "ziggurat" zoning requirements did but also allows the individual building to shine on its own. (coincidentally, this emulates the design of Coruscant) This is in stark contrast to Hudson Yards, where the buildings are bulky, (generally) similar in height, and very close to each other which detracts from each individual building's architectural impact, and reduces sunlight penetration to the street. Hopefully that planning/design scheme is on its way out. The WTC complex works a little better because of the height differentials, but the height reduction of WTC-3 doesn't help.

aquablue Jul 31, 2017 3:16 AM

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Originally Posted by gramsjdg (Post 7880333)
I'm all in favor of the super skinny, supertall trend as it allows for sunlight penetration in the same way that the old "ziggurat" zoning requirements did but also allows the individual building to shine on its own. (coincidentally, this emulates the design of Coruscant) This is in stark contrast to Hudson Yards, where the buildings are bulky, (generally) similar in height, and very close to each other which detracts from each individual building's architectural impact, and reduces sunlight penetration to the street. Hopefully that planning/design scheme is on its way out. The WTC complex works a little better because of the height differentials, but the height reduction of WTC-3 doesn't help.


Sure, but that trend of super slim towers for the rich is surely unsustainable.

NYguy Jul 31, 2017 1:49 PM

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Originally Posted by aquablue (Post 7880382)
Sure, but that trend of super slim towers for the rich is surely unsustainable.

You aren't going to see the superslim supertalls everywhere, only in places where the real estate and market could support it. On the other hand, if you consider towers like 9 DeKalb to be superslim, then that is not the market for the rich. I do think the superslims are here to stay though, at least in Manhattan where real estate is very expensive and there will always be the wealthy from around the world looking for a slice of the apple. We just may not have as many under construction at one time. Same goes for office buildings.

gramsjdg Jul 31, 2017 7:49 PM

Yeah, I would consider 9 Dekalb to be super slim, and even CPT. 111 W 57th is on the "slim" end of the "super slim" category for me...


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