European Pattern of growth/density for Western US cities?
Hey guys. So I was recently thinking about this as I increased my traveling around Southern California.
Much of the development pattern of LA, SD, and the other towns and cities consist of few high rise central districts surrounded by “seas” of low rise areas. This type of development, interspersed with the mountainous geography, reminded me of similar places in Mediterranean/alpine Europe, North Africa, the Levant, etc, in which you have dense low rise development with a few if any skyscrapers put against the topography of the area. Thus, it came to my mind: Should California and other Western states follow the European model of dense low rise development in order to protect views and maximize their urban landscape? |
I think you need to distinguish between the differences within those seas of lowrise areas. For example there is quite a built/ population density difference or function between say, an Old Town and a modern carcentric suburb, or a teeming, midrise Athenian suburb and a spacious, 'American style' Toulousien one, a clapperboard San Francisco district with a postwar LA one.
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at this point, i think i'd rather preserve some character of "old" LA interspersed with many glassy highrises, centralized around subway stations. i don't know that i'd like to see the city razed for a giant south lake union. i don't know.
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San Diego does not remind me of Marseille or Naples, at least in terms of development patterns. How are they similar outside of geography and weather?
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https://i.postimg.cc/Hk6gtmz0/Nice.jpg https://www.google.com/maps/@43.7077.../data=!3m1!1e3 https://i.postimg.cc/nckbHxy8/Cannes.jpg https://www.google.com/maps/@43.5616.../data=!3m1!1e3 https://i.postimg.cc/T3381SxK/Monaco.jpg https://www.google.com/maps/@43.7631.../data=!3m1!1e3 |
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This is typical "fancy" coastal SoCal, in an area I'm very familiar with. Doesn't look like France- https://www.google.com/maps/@33.6039...7i16384!8i8192 |
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These are Google Street View screen grabs from somewhere in the Hollywood Hills: https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net...19&oe=5D7CB1AC https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net...4c&oe=5D8521DD https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net...69&oe=5D81AEB8 Maybe not exactly like the French Riviera, hehe, but similar kind of environment. |
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That particular streetview doesn't look much like France. But much of the south of France does look a lot like Socal: https://goo.gl/maps/GGnFKZw8zTFDaRjh6 https://goo.gl/maps/xPot5yCvzW9RWYVr7 https://goo.gl/maps/rBt7xWUzNYUYAnqF8 Except of course everything's bigger in America. It's not just the Mediterranean architecture, it's the car-dependent lifestyle, the outdoorsy, health conscious culture, the liberal progressive values, and appreciation for some of the finer things in life, among other things. |
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Here, a neighborhood in Malibu, maybe a bit more rustic-looking: https://www.google.com/maps/@34.0457...2!8i6656?hl=en I always preferred the look of "rustic-rich" to "manicured rich" in SoCal anyway. :P |
I never been to coastal France or Italy (only see from the googles) but I think the similarities between SoCal and these areas would be some of the vegetation, topography, climate and as someone else pointed out, architectural cues but Southern California seems to have it's own unique style.
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I've been to lots of those low-density sprawling SFH zones in Europe, and the difference is that they *generally* have better and more frequent transit at least along the main road in the area. And that nearby main road usually has a type of crossroads "village centre" with at least a few buildings like a café, a tabac (French-style smoke shop) and other basic services - which actually resembles a village centre as opposed to a strip mall.
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Balearic coast of Spain feels California-esque, especially outside of the city centers. The desert areas in southern Spain also feel very similar to the Californian deserts.
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Also, Lisbon reminds me of a cleaner and quieter San Francisco.
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Lisbon is the quieter one? |
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I mean it's the more densely populated and more touristy of the two cities - and I'd argue probably has more streetlife and nightlife throughout. "Most" of San Francisco (like any other city) consists of pretty quiet residential areas too. |
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