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NYguy Jan 31, 2017 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zerton (Post 7696420)
I'm starting to think it might not be so bad to see this one cancelled.

Well it isn't and won't be canceled, so what we're getting is what we'll get.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Submariner (Post 7696344)
There is going to be a blank wall at the top?

Are you fucking kidding me?

This is why I say they should have released official renderings. That portion will be the same as the rest.


https://imgs.6sqft.com/wp-content/up...6087212517.jpg
https://www.6sqft.com/new-renderings...record-height/


https://imgs.6sqft.com/wp-content/up...om-tower-2.jpg

chris08876 Feb 1, 2017 12:28 AM

IDK why folks think this is stalled. Its not. Just like 1 MW is not stalled. Although it will seem like it because the base/foundation/support structure will take a year in total before we start to see it rise. If you want to see a very slow tower, actually, one that has been u/c since the first atoms collided, check out Tribeca Royale.


Tribeca Royale: http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=197806

Extremely slow. And, its only 21 floors.

Mr Saturn64 Feb 1, 2017 10:44 PM

I have a feeling this is going to be one of those buildings that just shoots up super quickly. I don't know why. Just a hunch.

chris08876 Feb 1, 2017 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr Saturn64 (Post 7697658)
I have a feeling this is going to be one of those buildings that just shoots up super quickly. I don't know why. Just a hunch.

Likewise for 111 W 57th. Steinway, is on another level though. I'm more excited for that, and 9 Dekalb, than CPT. IDK if its a bad thing, but CPT just doesn't impress on the level that those two do. SHoP is life! :worship:

chris08876 Feb 4, 2017 1:28 AM

Soon CPT will be more visible in this shot. Can see the crane!

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/393/31...08753bca_k.jpg
Untitled by Alexander Kasatkin, on Flickr

faridnyc Feb 5, 2017 5:03 PM

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Originally Posted by chris08876 (Post 7700347)
Soon CPT will be more visible in this shot. Can see the crane!

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/393/31...08753bca_k.jpg
Untitled by Alexander Kasatkin, on Flickr

the tower crane that we see is that a ctp crane ??

chris08876 Feb 5, 2017 5:21 PM

Yes. To the right, we can also see a smaller crane, but thats for the high rise portion of 220 CPS. To the left of 220 CPS, you can see the CPT crane.

faridnyc Feb 5, 2017 5:33 PM

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Originally Posted by chris08876 (Post 7701568)
Yes. To the right, we can also see a smaller , but thats for the high rise portion of 220 CPS. To the left of 220 CPS, you can see the CPT .

in case that it will have a spire to 1850FT it will absolutely domining the skyline huge impact :yes:

Mr Saturn64 Feb 5, 2017 11:26 PM

Central Park is great, isn't it? 220 Central Park South looks great from there, and it'll look better with CPT accompanying it.

jsbrook Feb 6, 2017 2:46 PM

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Originally Posted by chris08876 (Post 7697703)
Likewise for 111 W 57th. Steinway, is on another level though. I'm more excited for that, and 9 Dekalb, than CPT. IDK if its a bad thing, but CPT just doesn't impress on the level that those two do. SHoP is life! :worship:

Because 111 W. 57th and 9 Dekalb are masterpieces! As is Tower Verre. While this is entirely unremarkable with no noteworthy or distinctive features besides height. I'm totally fine with it, but it's rise is not exciting to me at all.

NYguy Feb 7, 2017 3:28 PM

MY guess is that this will be a very shiny building, contrasting with 220 CPS, 432 Park, and even One57. I've come to terms with the "crown", still unhappy that the tallest in Midtown won't have a spire of sorts, but it will be what it will be.

It's the quiet giant waiting to rise...



Steve Nogar

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/478/31...42a639c5_k.jpg

streetscaper Feb 9, 2017 3:39 PM

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/269/32...1de07cc6_b.jpg
FW4A3512 by Kevin Leclerc, on Flickr

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2714/3...d8ff7f78_b.jpgFW4A3513 by Kevin Leclerc, on Flickr

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2162/3...633aa43f_b.jpg
FW4A3516 by Kevin Leclerc, on Flickr

Crawford Feb 10, 2017 4:14 AM

This building has risen two floors in the last 10 days or so. Finally past the cantilever, so hopefully this starts to really fly.

Furqan Feb 10, 2017 6:13 AM

Looks Amazing

NYguy Feb 13, 2017 3:37 AM

Jack Bricker

https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3711/3...01977456_b.jpg



https://c2.staticflickr.com/4/3711/3...0640b6fd_h.jpg

photoLith Feb 13, 2017 4:30 AM

Just starting to peak above the forest, this should really start moving now. Cant wait.

NYguy Feb 15, 2017 12:28 AM

Barely visible over upper Broadway...


Warren

https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/408/32...f7b52b02_k.jpg

Prezrezc Feb 16, 2017 12:01 AM

If I may, I'd like to re-introduce myself as the SSP forumer formerly known as JayPro.
It does my heart good to finally contribute to the myriaddiscussions about new construction in the Apple.

As for this tower on the rise (finally), a few observations:

As for this spire or no spire argument, I've concluded that for where it is, the addition really isn't needed. Its simplistic contours in juxtaposition between One57 and 220CPS easily catch the eye without drawing too much attention to itself, which IMO adding the spire *would* do.
(Now if it were part of the MidtownEast rezoning, the spire would be fine....maybe if instead on top of the building it were added to one of the corners like IIRC Moscow's Federation complex's spire in the middle, which I think was scrapped(?) ).

Moving right along, the overall facade is moderately complex without leaving viewers scratching their heads. Lastly, the height of the cantilever from street level (How tall?) is impressive to an almost daunting level, giving the tower a further sense of awesome presence.

What we have here is the tallest of NYC's new crop of giants striking an incredibly difficult, yet IMO seamless balance between profound subtlety and sheer verticality.

I say top-out by Memorial Day at the latest.

jl4069 Feb 16, 2017 2:47 AM


Have to say that the progress since August September is very very small.
Have a look at page 211 of this thread to see the progress from September. I gotta go by the site a see how much activity is going on. The latest pictures show almost no one on the roof. Painfully slow. j

NYguy Feb 16, 2017 3:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jl4069 (Post 7713817)
Have to say that the progress since August September is very very small.
Have a look at page 211 of this thread to see the progress from September. I gotta go by the site a see how much activity is going on. The latest pictures show almost no one on the roof. Painfully slow. j

Using that reasoning, how many people do you count on 220 CPS? Is that moving too slow as well? I think you're assuming that there is a full workforce on these towers every day, which there isn't. There are some sites that have an active workforce on the weekends, but not many.

As far as how slow the progress is here, it's slow, but it's not like we're waiting for the most dynamic tower to get built. If this were the only game in town, I might be more concerned with the pace, due to the excitement. But there is simply way too much going on in New York to get concerned about it. Barnett could put this on ice for a couple of years, and I wouldn't be bothered. This just happens to be the tallest of the new supertall towers being built in New York. It's hardly the most exciting. It will dominate from sheer size of course.




Quote:

Originally Posted by Prezrezc
As for this spire or no spire argument, I've concluded that for where it is, the addition really isn't needed. Its simplistic contours in juxtaposition between One57 and 220CPS easily catch the eye without drawing too much attention to itself, which IMO adding the spire *would* do.

Is that not what the tallest towers are supposed to do? Is not the Empire State such an icon because it was the tallest, the spire topping a vast skyline of other skyscrapers, screaming "look at me"?

This tower will be the tallest in Midtown, with or without the spire. It will stand above the Empire State, One Vanderbilt, 111 W. 57th, 30 Hudson, the Chrysler, 53W53, BofA, all towers that have an apex with variations on the New York spire/crown that the skyline is known for, all standing above row after row of boxes (people don't generally think of buildings like the GE, Met Life, Chase, as skyline defining towers).

The New York skyline is seen from a number of angles, most often not the ones we generally think of. This building will matter more than others because it will be the most visible. As is currently planned, the apex doesn't do this city or it's skyline justice. But it will be what it will be. It will be thrown into the mix same as the others. It just should have been a better representation of a skyline defining tower in New York.


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