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Zapatan Nov 21, 2014 1:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Skyguy_7 (Post 6816046)
Even so, the agreement still allows for a 1,775' 11" roof height with a 500' antenna. Besides economics, there's hardly a cap on height in NYC...

True, but economics itself is surely enough of a cap, plus the fact that they would need FAA permission which I imagine is a pain.

Skyguy_7 Nov 21, 2014 1:31 PM

^My statement was tounge-in-cheek. It should read, "Besides economics ...with an emphasis on ECONOMICS.

NYguy Nov 21, 2014 3:55 PM

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Originally Posted by aquablue (Post 6815964)
It that's true, that's pretty pathetic. A gentlemen's agreement to keep that spindly spire the tallest point in NYC is the inverse of what NY forward looking and culture of capitalism represents. 9/11 has a memorial.

We're talking about this tower. He was given specific information that said not to expect a height change.

As far as any other tower, it's up to the developers to decide what gets built, and how tall they would like it, architect or not. And this being New York, you know someone will want to top the Freedom Tower's height.

But for now, enjoy this tower for what it is, another in the line of supertalls on 57th street. I think it needs that spire to stand out from the pack.

We've got about three years before it's topped out. Around that time or not far behind, 111 W. 57th should be topping out, and 30 Hudson should be as well. So it will come in a wave of new towers, unlike One57 and 432 Park which both enjoy time in the spotlight alone.

Ploppalopp Nov 21, 2014 4:36 PM

If the developers of Nordstrom decided to make the building taller than the WTC, would their plan not be approved or is it really up to them how tall they make it?
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Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 6816211)
We're talking about this tower. He was given specific information that said not to expect a height change.

As far as any other tower, it's up to the developers to decide what gets built, and how tall they would like it, architect or not. And this being New York, you know someone will want to top the Freedom Tower's height.


chris08876 Nov 21, 2014 5:01 PM

It would be approved. The city doesn't have a set limit of 1,776 ft. They just wanted to make it a foot shorter (developers). Unless its over 2000 feet, then the FAA would get involved and they are a holes about things (Miami cough cough). Although I do wish Greenland Group would get involved in a supertall. If anything, they would be the ones to push for a megatall.

But I wouldn't worry about WTC1 being the Philadelphia City Hall of NYC. Taller towers will come in time due.

Ploppalopp Nov 21, 2014 5:15 PM

So if a tower is above 2000 feet it automatically has to be approved by the FAA?

chris08876 Nov 21, 2014 6:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Ploppalopp (Post 6816347)
So if a tower is above 2000 feet it automatically has to be approved by the FAA?

Yes. It has to show clear public interests, deemed not hazardous to air travel, and then a request could become a reality. Essentially both parties have to comply on the issue and come to an agreement.

What we see in Miami and why they require approval for everything is the proximity of the airport. This also plays a big role, and can applies to most developments near an airport or a flight path.

photoLith Nov 21, 2014 7:34 PM

2000' isnt going to happen people.

unanimity Nov 21, 2014 7:37 PM

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Originally Posted by photoLith (Post 6816561)
2000' isnt going to happen people.

well not with that attitude.

Zapatan Nov 21, 2014 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by unanimity (Post 6816565)
well not with that attitude.

It would be nice, especially with the cancellation of Chicago Spire (again) but you also have to be realistic and not get your hopes high for nothing. There's no reason why we would see a 2000' building here. It would make us skyscraper nerds happy of course but that's not a legit reason. ;)

Hudson11 Nov 22, 2014 6:39 AM

http://skyscrapercenter.com/building...h-street/14269

http://i.imgur.com/HU49Elf.png

CHAPINM1 Nov 22, 2014 2:58 PM

I love the fact alone that the roof height will be the tallest roof height stat of any project so far in the United States at 1,490 feet.

JR Ewing Nov 22, 2014 3:37 PM

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Originally Posted by CHAPINM1 (Post 6817366)
I love the fact alone that the roof height will be the tallest roof height stat of any project so far in the United States at 1,490 feet.

It may exceed 1,500' to the top of the parapet.

Pete8680 Nov 23, 2014 2:34 AM

What if the ESB was destroyed on 9/11 instead of WTC? ( I shudder the thought ) Wood NYC have a 1,249 ft. Gentlemen's agreement? Or wood they include the transmitter's extra 204 feet & make it a 1,453 ft. limit? Like some 1 said earlier, I wood b the 1 to weld that used pogo stick 2 the spire. The 2 months in Rikers wood b worth it!

599GTO Nov 23, 2014 8:03 AM

Hopefully, this keeps up...

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No end in sight for New York's multimillion dollar housing boom

NEW YORK (CNNMoney)
When it comes to New York City real estate, the billionaires are on a buying spree. Sales of multimillion dollar residential properties are up 120% so far this year, according to CityRealty.

While median home prices for the U.S. overall are pretty much back to where they were 10 years ago, Manhattan's luxury home prices have more than doubled, according to Jonathan Miller, president of Miller Samuel, a real estate appraisal firm in New York.

http://money.cnn.com/2014/11/20/real...nhattan-homes/


NYguy Nov 23, 2014 1:07 PM

We've seen these renderings a lot lately, but people can't seem to wrap their heads around the changes.

But here's a sweet and handy guide with those renders...



http://nypost.com/2014/11/22/how-new...-look-in-2018/

NYC’s skyline will be radically different in 2018


By Kate Briquelet
November 22, 2014


http://thenypost.files.wordpress.com...8&h=652&crop=1



https://thenypost.files.wordpress.co...11/skyline.jpg



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The high times aren’t going away in New York.

The city of just six years from now will be dramatically taller, with a series of luxury high-rises towering above Central Park, a new West Side development and downtown spires.

“The skyline is changing so much,” said Ondel Hylton, content director for CityRealty, the real-estate search site that generated this rendering of New York in the near future.
“To see [the towers] together in one image takes people by surprise. A lot of people are shocked.”

The mega-developments include the 96-story 432 Park Ave., which at 1,396 feet is the tallest residential property in the western hemisphere.

The 104-unit condo, where one penthouse sold for $95 million, is slated to open next year.

The Nordstrom Tower — at 225 W. 57th St. — will rival it at 92 stories once completed in 2018.

At 1,775 feet tall, it will be the city’s second-tallest building and just a foot shorter than One World Trade Center (and that’s only if you include the WTC spire).

Here’s a rundown of what buildings will reach for the sky.

53W53, an 82-story condo rising at 1,050 feet tall, will open in 2018, and the 1,350-foot-tall condo at 111 W. 57th St. and 66-story 220 Central Park South both launch in 2016.

Also pictured is 520 Park Ave., a 54-story residential tower at E. 60th St. that may have the priciest apartment in city history. A triplex penthouse will go for $130 million in the building.

One Vanderbilt, a proposed office tower next to Grand Central Terminal, will be 1,514 tall and 65 stories. Construction is slated for 2017 and will be completed by 2021.


https://thenypost.files.wordpress.co...skyline_11.jpg

JR Ewing Nov 23, 2014 1:10 PM

Amazing! :cheers:

QUEENSNYMAN Nov 23, 2014 9:42 PM

Looking forward to these skyline changes, thanks NYguy for the great info as always!

JayPro Nov 23, 2014 11:43 PM

Nitpicking Alert: I don't see Girasole...

sparkling Nov 23, 2014 11:49 PM

Awesome job! Whoever put the effort-kudos to him/her! And pretty soon these may be outdated if the plans for 31 west 57th and Roseland Ballroom (to name a few) go ahead ( even 56 Leonard is missing)


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