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JakeLRS Jul 19, 2022 4:25 PM

Jetlines Starts Ticket Sales

First Flight Departs August 15th, schedule out till October 31st.

YYZ-YWG - 5x Weekly (M,T,W,T,F) Fares from $185 One Way
YYZ-YQM - 5x Weekly (M,T,W,T,F) Fares from $136 One Way

The cheaper fares were found in September/October. Summer time fares are $200+. I can't tell if carry-ons are permitted.

TheGreatestX Jul 19, 2022 4:39 PM

Wow, six airlines on the YYZ-YWG route.

Air Canada
WestJet
Swoop
Flair
Lynx
Canada Jetlines

Coldrsx Jul 19, 2022 4:48 PM

Porter Airlines Inc.
33,245 followers
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What’s better than 80 new aircraft

Porter is excited to bring even more passengers to new destinations across North America with the confirmation of 20 firm orders of Embraer E195-E2 jets. This is in addition to the existing 30 firm orders we made in 2021, bringing the total number up to 100 aircraft: 50 firm commitments and 50 purchase rights.

The first delivery and entry into service out of Toronto Pearson is scheduled for later this year. More details to come.

https://www.linkedin.com/company/por...td0TJGvw%3D%3D

casper Jul 19, 2022 5:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coldrsx (Post 9680008)
Porter Airlines Inc.
33,245 followers
4h • 4 hours ago
Follow

What’s better than 80 new aircraft

Porter is excited to bring even more passengers to new destinations across North America with the confirmation of 20 firm orders of Embraer E195-E2 jets. This is in addition to the existing 30 firm orders we made in 2021, bringing the total number up to 100 aircraft: 50 firm commitments and 50 purchase rights.

The first delivery and entry into service out of Toronto Pearson is scheduled for later this year. More details to come.

https://www.linkedin.com/company/por...td0TJGvw%3D%3D

Pearson? What? The airport that can't manage with the aircrafts it has now.

MonctonRad Jul 19, 2022 5:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by casper (Post 9680078)
Pearson? What? The airport that can't manage with the aircrafts it has now.

I prefer flying into Billy Bishop. :(

whatnext Jul 19, 2022 6:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coldrsx (Post 9680008)
Porter Airlines Inc.
33,245 followers
4h • 4 hours ago
Follow

What’s better than 80 new aircraft

Porter is excited to bring even more passengers to new destinations across North America with the confirmation of 20 firm orders of Embraer E195-E2 jets. This is in addition to the existing 30 firm orders we made in 2021, bringing the total number up to 100 aircraft: 50 firm commitments and 50 purchase rights.

The first delivery and entry into service out of Toronto Pearson is scheduled for later this year. More details to come.

https://www.linkedin.com/company/por...td0TJGvw%3D%3D

That $210 million in Covid aid going to Brazil, nice.

casper Jul 19, 2022 7:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whatnext (Post 9680103)
That $210 million in Covid aid going to Brazil, nice.

But if we a real airline with solid customer service, and interline agreements in place with all the Oneworld members it is worth it.

We just need them to make codeshare deals with BA and Alaska and we have the making of a solid third option. Maybe round the offering with American deal.

thenoflyzone Jul 19, 2022 7:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whatnext (Post 9680103)
That $210 million in Covid aid going to Brazil, nice.

Indeed.

I have shared my opinion on this matter numerous times on this forum. Alas, Porter is a private company and they can do as they please.

At the end of the day, $$$$ is always the most important factor, and the E195-E2 is cheaper than the A220-100 or 300. Safe to say that's the main reason why they went with the jungle jet.

Quote:

Porter intends to deploy the E195-E2s to popular business and leisure destinations throughout Canada, the United States, Mexico and the Caribbean, from Ottawa, Montreal, Halifax and Toronto Pearson International Airport.
They clearly mention YHZ. Well, one destination from YHZ they won't be able to operate - due to their choice of aircraft - is YVR. The E195-E2 range is about 2,600nm, that's not enough for YHZ-YVR, especially in winter.

One of the downsides of going the cheap route. That route is a piece of cake for either A220 version.

But, for 99.9% of their planned routes, the E2 is more than sufficient. Transcontinental out of YYZ, YOW or YUL are doable with that range.

Dominion301 Jul 20, 2022 2:26 AM

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Originally Posted by hollywoodcory (Post 9679901)
https://www.westjet.com/en-ca/news/2...ons-as-airline
Ironically they did put out a press release yesterday highlighting domestic reductions.

It also mentions the winter schedule will be announced in August.

Quote:

This August, WestJet will release the airline’s full winter 2022/2023 schedule that will see significant sun and leisure flying investments for Eastern Canada along with capacity enhancements nationwide.

“As a national airline, we will continue to engage with these communities and stakeholders as we look to enhance service to Eastern and Atlantic Canada through direct connections to Western Canada, sun and leisure destinations,” continued Weatherill. “By making these difficult decisions now, it will ensure we can offer more of what our guests expect from WestJet and solidify our airline as the most reliable and affordable airline for many years to come.”
You can hardly call yourself a national airline when you can’t even serve Quebec’s second largest city year-round.

“Significant sun and leisure flying for Eastern Canada” - Translation: for Toronto.

TheGreatestX Jul 20, 2022 2:41 AM

^on that note, why is YQB served by Rouge and not mainline from YYZ?

JakeLRS Jul 20, 2022 4:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dominion301 (Post 9680542)
You can hardly call yourself a national airline when you can’t even serve Quebec’s second largest city year-round.

“Significant sun and leisure flying for Eastern Canada” - Translation: for Toronto.

And everyone else gets SWOOPED

zahav Jul 20, 2022 5:55 AM

I feel like it's a blood bath with so much extra capacity coming on. There's going to be a casualty, we are basically in a situation of way more carriers than we need and high fuel costs/inflation. Isn't a good recipe. I could see us retrenching into a duopoly+one or two others at some point again

Calfan12 Jul 20, 2022 7:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dominion301 (Post 9680542)
You can hardly call yourself a national airline when you can’t even serve Quebec’s second largest city year-round.

“Significant sun and leisure flying for Eastern Canada” - Translation: for Toronto.

Not too surprising. WestJet winter schedules -in East will benefit Toronto YYZ with more flights consolidating through there and in the West Calgary YYC/Vancouver YVR will benefit from it too!!

hehehe Jul 20, 2022 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dominion301 (Post 9680542)
You can hardly call yourself a national airline when you can’t even serve Quebec’s second largest city year-round.

“Significant sun and leisure flying for Eastern Canada” - Translation: for Toronto.

"Even though we're cutting convenient and regular flights to your city, get excited for the two new weekly flights to Cancun you can use in December!!"
:uhh: But I guess in today's climate this strategy change was necessary.

Dominion301 Jul 20, 2022 1:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGreatestX (Post 9680550)
^on that note, why is YQB served by Rouge and not mainline from YYZ?

Low J demand in YQB vs other eastern cities. Isn't that ideal for a WS product? So I guess they'll be back next summer in YQB, YFC, YYG and YQY with at least a few weekly 737s in those markets seasonally plus maybe the return of YQB-YYC.

In other WestJet news...

More than 700 YVR and YYC WestJet employees could go on strike as early as a week from today. 98% voted in favour of a strike if a deal can't be reached with the company.

Trying to pay your own staff 3rd party vendor wages doesn't cut it. The teal Kool-aid has long since been diluted.

https://www.newswire.ca/news-release...864257597.html

Dominion301 Jul 20, 2022 1:19 PM

You can tell WG are aligning themselves for marriage with WS when:

https://www.newswire.ca/news-release...827101060.html

Quote:

On July 8, 2022 – days after the filing at the CIRB – Sunwing sent a document to Unifor pilot members indicating the company would no longer be continuing the pilots' $200,000 Loss of License insurance policy, which supports a pilot who loses their license to fly due to medical reasons.

"Loss of License Insurance is critical for pilots," said Barret Armann, President of Unifor Local 7378, which represents 452 Sunwing pilots. "Without one, they are out of a career. The insurance provided a very small amount of money to retrain, support their families and begin again in a new career – a position pilots hope they never find themselves in."

Dominion301 Jul 20, 2022 1:37 PM

Speaking of WG, Sunwing are adding a new destination this winter: Cayo Largo, Cuba / CYO, which is on one of Cuba's outer islands. Looking on wikipedia and the airport until now has only had two airlines and two destination, including TS to YUL.

WG will have YOW, YHZ, YQB, YUL and YYZ service this winter for CYO.


https://canadianaviationnews.wordpre...rough-sunwing/

thenoflyzone Jul 20, 2022 1:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dominion301 (Post 9680779)
Speaking of WG, Sunwing are adding a new destination this winter: Cayo Largo, Cuba / CYO, which is on one of Cuba's outer islands. Looking on wikipedia and the airport until now has only had two airlines and two destination, including TS to YUL.

WG will have YOW, YHZ, YQB, YUL and YYZ service this winter for CYO.


https://canadianaviationnews.wordpre...rough-sunwing/

They're resuming CYO, at least from YUL and YYZ.

If you go on wikipedia, hit "history" and go back to a date just before the pandemic, you'll see a longer airline/destination list, which includes Sunwing and a few other European airlines.

My parents go there often. It's a tiny island, with only 7 or 8 small hotels. So not many flights are needed to pack the hotels. The airport can't handle many flights anyways.

Dominion301 Jul 20, 2022 4:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 9680781)
They're resuming CYO, at least from YUL and YYZ.

If you go on wikipedia, hit "history" and go back to a date just before the pandemic, you'll see a longer airline/destination list, which includes Sunwing and a few other European airlines.

My parents go there often. It's a tiny island, with only 7 or 8 small hotels. So not many flights are needed to pack the hotels. The airport can't handle many flights anyways.

I never knew you could do that with Wikipedia. So it looks like YOW, YQB and YHZ are all new destinations.

manny_santos Jul 20, 2022 4:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dominion301 (Post 9680762)
Low J demand in YQB vs other eastern cities. Isn't that ideal for a WS product? So I guess they'll be back next summer in YQB, YFC, YYG and YQY with at least a few weekly 737s in those markets seasonally plus maybe the return of YQB-YYC.

In other WestJet news...

More than 700 YVR and YYC WestJet employees could go on strike as early as a week from today. 98% voted in favour of a strike if a deal can't be reached with the company.

Trying to pay your own staff 3rd party vendor wages doesn't cut it. The teal Kool-aid has long since been diluted.

https://www.newswire.ca/news-release...864257597.html

I have a trip scheduled at the beginning of August. I'm flying with another carrier to Ontario, but I'm supposed to fly from Ontario back to BC (with a layover in Calgary) on WestJet. If this strike goes ahead, I may need to cancel the trip. Even if the pilots aren't striking, customer service and baggage staff on strike will be very problematic.


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