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Denscity Jul 30, 2021 8:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobert (Post 9353773)
For those of us who don't get the chance to drive out to golden/kicking horse often here's a youtube video that has some of the latest progress on phase 4:

https://youtu.be/5S03w_qkiVA?t=10808

It's awesome to see all the work that's going on! This stretch is going to be breathtaking once complete.

Sweet cheers!

craner Aug 3, 2021 5:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobert (Post 9353773)
For those of us who don't get the chance to drive out to golden/kicking horse often here's a youtube video that has some of the latest progress on phase 4:

https://youtu.be/5S03w_qkiVA?t=10808

It's awesome to see all the work that's going on! This stretch is going to be breathtaking once complete.

Loved that whole video - thanks.

DKaz Aug 3, 2021 3:31 PM

Thanks! Also:

Quartz Creek Bridge: https://youtu.be/5S03w_qkiVA?t=10995
Illecillewaet: https://youtu.be/5S03w_qkiVA?t=11220
Salmon Arm: https://youtu.be/5S03w_qkiVA?t=11700
Chase: https://youtu.be/5S03w_qkiVA?t=11851

Nothing started on the just finalized RW Bruhn Bridge and the recently announced Tappen Valley Road portions yet.

DKaz Aug 5, 2021 4:18 AM

This looks fun.

Source: BC Ministry of Transportation
https://scontent.fyxd1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...19&oe=6132E5D4

Denscity Aug 5, 2021 6:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DKaz (Post 9357764)
This looks fun.

Source: BC Ministry of Transportation
https://scontent.fyxd1-1.fna.fbcdn.n...19&oe=6132E5D4

Haha "Why isn't the TCH twinned all through BC yet?" "BC is so slow on twinning this highway" etc.

Bobert Aug 7, 2021 10:48 AM

MOT uploaded a ton of new construction pictures

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...bee99a55_b.jpgTraffic through the Kicking Horse Canyon Phase 4 construction site by B.C. Ministry of Transportation and Infrastructure, on Flickr

craner Aug 10, 2021 1:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denscity (Post 9357811)
Haha "Why isn't the TCH twinned all through BC yet?" "BC is so slow on twinning this highway" etc.

And yet other countries seem to have overcome the construction challenges associated with building “real” highways through the mountains long ago (I-70, I-80, I-90 etc.).
Just hasn’t been a priority for Canada (much to my frustration) ;).
BTW - The Feds should be funding 75% of TCH system upgrades IMO.

Marshal Aug 10, 2021 8:47 AM

It would be good to get more Fed funding for long inter-provincial routes.

I wish we could stop comparing our situation to places with shorter routes between significantly larger population/economic centres: esp., US and Europe.

dmuzika Aug 16, 2021 6:43 AM

This is a little off topic, but in light of the wildfire situation, is it possible (or recommended) to drive through the Interior? Basically traveling from Alberta to the Lower Mainland. I just noticed the Coquhalla is closed between Merritt and Hope and there are other fires near Sicamous and Three Valley.

Marshal Aug 16, 2021 8:05 AM

The interior is under two crises: Covid and wildfire. So, it depends upon how important your trip is, and if there is a safe route.

Remember, during a crisis like this there is a strain on all aspects of life. It's not just about evacuees and firefighters: every system is strained. For example, hotels are straining, not just to accommodate evacuees, but all sorts of officials who are needed for management and logistics. The fuel system is strained. The hospital system, the police, transport, etc. are all strained. YOU DON'T WANT TO GET INTO A POSITION WHERE YOU UNNECESSARILY ADD TO THAT LOAD.

So, check your odds and priorities before you decide.

(Here is how I look at it: I mountain bike, but during Covid and the strain on our paramedics, ambulances, and hospitals, I make a serious effort to make sure I don't end up in an Emerg. because of my 'sport.' I stay off difficult/risky trails, and ride conservatively and with caution.)

Airboy Aug 16, 2021 2:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmuzika (Post 9366255)
This is a little off topic, but in light of the wildfire situation, is it possible (or recommended) to drive through the Interior? Basically traveling from Alberta to the Lower Mainland. I just noticed the Coquhalla is closed between Merritt and Hope and there are other fires near Sicamous and Three Valley.

Highway 1 through the Fraser canyon is also closed due to a rock slide. Only road to the coast open is Highway 3.

DKaz Aug 16, 2021 5:53 PM

You can turn off onto Hwy 99 from Hwy 1 and get to Vancouver via Whistler.

Airboy Aug 16, 2021 9:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DKaz (Post 9366716)
You can turn off onto Hwy 99 from Hwy 1 and get to Vancouver via Whistler.

I would just check the BC wildfire site, see whats open and closed. with the way everyting is right now the Coke could be reopened.

Denscity Aug 17, 2021 3:47 AM

Highway 3 Manning Park also has a fire although no closure yet.

Airboy Aug 17, 2021 2:39 PM

Was planning on a trip to Prince Rupert in early Sept. Should be ok but.....

DoubleK Aug 18, 2021 7:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Airboy (Post 9366466)
Highway 1 through the Fraser canyon is also closed due to a rock slide. Only road to the coast open is Highway 3.

Coq is open again.

Airboy Aug 18, 2021 7:00 PM

heres the latest.

100 Mile House Area (Flat Lake Fire)

CLOSED: Dog Creek Road (from Meadow Lake Road to Gustafson-Dog Creek FSR)
Kamloops (Sparks Lake fires, Young Lake Fire)

CLOSED:
Deadman Vidette Road
Tunkwa Lake Road between Highway 1 and 2 km south of Tunkwa Lake Provincial Park
Ashcroft/Logan Lake area (Tremont Creek Fire)

CLOSED:
Highway 97C at Highland Valley eastbound at junction of Tunkwa Lake Rd
Highway 97C Mamit Lake northbound at Foley Rd
Highway 97D at Paska Lake Rd
Anglesey Ranch Road
Barclay Road
Bass St
Central Ave
Collins St
Evans Road
Newbold Road
Railroad Ave
Princeton (Garrison Lake Fire)

TRAVEL ADVISORY: Highway 3 OPEN between Manning Park Resort and Frontage Rd for 64.7 km (64 km east of Hope to Princeton). Limited visibility with smoke.
Merritt area (July Mountain fire/Brook Creek Fire have merged)

OPEN: Highway 5 (Coquihalla) between Hope and Merritt
CLOSED: Coldwater Road access from Highway 5 (Coquihalla) to Brookmere
Lillooet area (McKay Creek Fire)

TRAVEL ADVISORY: Road 40 (Lillooet-Pioneer Road) OPEN between Mission Mountain Rd and Moha Rd for 29.9 km and has limited visibility with smoke due to wildfire. Essential travel only. Road may close without notice to support wild fire operations.
Lytton area (Lytton Creek Fire)

CLOSED: Highway 8 at Clapperton and in Lower Nicola at Willgoose Road
Westwold, Kelowna / Westside (White Rock Lake Fire)

CLOSED:
Westside Rd (from Highway 97 to La Casa)
Douglas Lake Rd
OPEN:
Robbins Range Rd (between Campbell Range Rd and Hwy 97)
Chase-Falkland Rd
Barnhartvale Rd (from 1km west of Bobbins Range Rd to Hwy 97)
Okanagan Falls (Thomas Creek Fire)

CLOSED: Allendale Lake Road
Osoyoos, South Okanagan (Inkaneep/Nk’Mip Fire)

CLOSED: McKinney Road in Oliver Area (gravel section only)

DoubleK Sep 3, 2021 3:25 PM

Fall closure schedule for Kicking Horse Phase 4 has been finalized.

Highlights:

Quote:

The traffic management strategy is designed to minimize and mitigate traffic disruptions while allowing the work to proceed safely and on schedule:

Labour Day weekend: the canyon will be fully open day and night.

Until Sept. 15: daytime travel through the canyon will continue to be uninterrupted with rare exceptions. Evening half-hour stoppages due to single-lane alternating traffic and overnight closures will continue. During any overnight closures, Trans-Canada Highway traffic will be diverted to the alternative route of highways 93 and 95 through Radium Hot Springs.

Sept. 15: daytime stoppages of up to half an hour due to single-lane

Until Sept. 15: daytime travel through the canyon will continue to be uninterrupted with rare exceptions. Evening half-hour stoppages due to single-lane alternating traffic and overnight closures will continue. During any overnight closures, Trans-Canada Highway traffic will be diverted to the alternative route of highways 93 and 95 through Radium Hot Springs.

Sept. 15: daytime stoppages of up to half an hour due to single-lane alternating traffic will be added between 9 a.m. and 3 p.m.

Sept. 20 (noon) to Dec. 1 (6 a.m.): Kicking Horse Canyon Constructors will implement a multi-day, 24-hour, extended closure of the Trans-Canada Highway. Through traffic on Highway 1 between Golden to Castle Junction will be routed via highways 93 and 95, which will add up to 1.5 hours of travel time. Roadside signage will provide advance notification of the closure. Alternative routes will have signage.

============================

Exceptions to extended road closures:

Sept. 25-26: the multi-day 24-hour closure is suspended, but shorter-duration stoppages and overnight closures may apply.

Thanksgiving holiday long weekend: the highway will be fully open day and night.

A limited-access pass system established to allow local commuters and school buses to be escorted through the construction zone during two brief windows daily is now at or very near capacity. Information on the pass system is posted on the project website.

Dengler Avenue Sep 6, 2021 3:36 AM

Another fatal crash occurred east of Revelstoke. Condolences to the victim’s family and friends.
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So many fatal collisions have happened there. Which parts are the worst spots on that stretch??

DoubleK Sep 7, 2021 2:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue (Post 9388030)
Another fatal crash occurred east of Revelstoke. Condolences to the victim’s family and friends.
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So many fatal collisions have happened there. Which parts are the worst spots on that stretch??

Blaeberry is just west of Golden, maybe 10 km or so.

That part is not bad at all.

DoubleK Oct 6, 2021 2:35 PM

The fall closure for Kicking Horse Phase 4 is in effect until Dec 1.

Bobert Oct 22, 2021 3:30 AM

MoTI just put up a few pictures on their Flickr page. The first structures/girders are going in:

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...71ec0d3e_b.jpg

Sheep Bridge Girder Installation by B.C. Ministry of Transportation and Infrastructure, on Flickr

craner Oct 22, 2021 6:59 PM

^So exciting !!
:banana:

Dengler Avenue Nov 15, 2021 2:39 AM

I’ve been wondering:
Why does Crowsnest Highway have 4 lanes in the middle of Manning Park? Don’t get me wrong, it’s nice, but the location seems random to me.
https://goo.gl/maps/wE14QQmVEC1pJcmt7
Above is the western limit of the 4 lanes, separate from those between Hope and west entrance to Manning Park.

Tvisforme Nov 15, 2021 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue (Post 9451012)
I’ve been wondering:
Why does Crowsnest Highway have 4 lanes in the middle of Manning Park? Don’t get me wrong, it’s nice, but the location seems random to me.
https://goo.gl/maps/wE14QQmVEC1pJcmt7
Above is the western limit of the 4 lanes, separate from those between Hope and west entrance to Manning Park.

I'm just speculating, but it could be that the terrain in that part of the park was easier to build in, as compared to the steeper terrain to the east and west. It also gives a nice long stretch for passing to help reduce lines that may have formed behind slower vehicles in the narrower hill sections.

Denscity Nov 16, 2021 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue (Post 9451012)
I’ve been wondering:
Why does Crowsnest Highway have 4 lanes in the middle of Manning Park? Don’t get me wrong, it’s nice, but the location seems random to me.
https://goo.gl/maps/wE14QQmVEC1pJcmt7
Above is the western limit of the 4 lanes, separate from those between Hope and west entrance to Manning Park.

I've often wondered that as well. I've taken that highway a hundred times to get between Castlegar and Vancouver.

Bobert Nov 20, 2021 4:30 AM

SO what does everyone think abou the current state of LML and southern interior highways?

I think from best condition to worst we're looking at:

1. Highway3
2. Highway99
3. Highway 1
4. Highway 5/8

I don't see how highway 5 and 8 are open until 2022/2023

Tvisforme Nov 20, 2021 5:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobert (Post 9456543)
SO what does everyone think abou the current state of LML and southern interior highways?

I think from best condition to worst we're looking at:

1. Highway3
2. Highway99
3. Highway 1
4. Highway 5/8

I don't see how highway 5 and 8 are open until 2022/2023

Yes, when a road is described as "Nicola River swallows Highway 8 west of Merritt" it may be a while before it is rebuilt!

Highway 8 (from TranBC via Castanet):

https://www.castanet.net/content/202...sf24._3082.jpg

splashflash Dec 4, 2021 2:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denscity (Post 9451922)
I've often wondered that as well. I've taken that highway a hundred times to get between Castlegar and Vancouver.

It has been like that for a long time, since the early 80s, at least. That was before the Coquihalla was built and it handled more traffic. The stretches between the Tulameen and the Similkameen Rivers, Skagit Bluffs and west up to Rhodedendron Flats have difficult terrain. The last stretch to be improved was around Whipsaw Creek and before that from the Coquihalla to Hope Slide (1986). The four-laning from Sunshine Valley to the Manning Park entrance was done in the early 80s I believe. I can remember the highway twisting around boulders at the Hope Slide and graphiti on the rocks in the late 1970s.

The 4 lane stretches come in handy with other road closures occurring.

Airboy Jan 14, 2022 3:58 PM

Highway 1 finally reopens today from Lytton to Spences bridge.

https://www.tranbc.ca/wp-content/upl...4wnbsmZmz69fPM

MIPS Jan 19, 2022 1:35 AM

Coquihalla's planned to reopen to regular traffic starting tomorrow, however be prepared for the trip to take an extra 45 minutes to an hour due to lane reductions.

DoubleK Jan 19, 2022 9:03 PM

It is remarkable they have been able to open both routes this week.

Now the real engineering and design can begin.

Have they floated the idea of reinstating the toll on the Coq? Gotta pay for this some how.

jimmyboy95 Jan 22, 2022 1:55 AM

Looks like the province spent about $1 million to install not one but TWO new traffic signals in Princeton, a town that previously had zero. One is obviously at the 5A and 3 intersection, and the other will be just north of there, where 5A turns off the main street to bypass the downtown.

Improvements are coming to the intersection of 97 and 3A in Kaleden too. Not sure about the details at this time, but I'm guessing a protected T intersection. Probably not a signal and definitely not a roundabout unless they dropped 97 to a 50kph zone through there. That one is sure a sketchy intersection!

Awesome news about the Coquihalla and Lytton to Spences Bridge. Hopefully the Jackass Mountain stretch is open soon too, then Hwy 1 will be fully passable.

Mazrim Jan 24, 2022 5:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DoubleK (Post 9508021)
Have they floated the idea of reinstating the toll on the Coq? Gotta pay for this some how.

Disaster funding is a bit different than your usual funding issues. Rainy day funds and federal support will cover most of the costs of the repairs. The political and monetary cost to put tolls back in (probably automated license plate scanners instead of toll booths) might not be worth it.

craner Apr 23, 2022 6:08 PM

Khc
 
Some photos on the last three pages here:
http://https://www.kickinghorsecanyon.ca/app/uploads/sites/632/2022/04/KHCP4-Monthly-Status-Report-February-2022.pdf

Denscity Apr 23, 2022 6:12 PM

Ya KH is closed for 4 weeks AFAIK?

madog222 Apr 26, 2022 12:42 AM

Kennedy Hill on Highway 4 is starting to come together. The project website still says completion this summer.

Top of the hill
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...beacec32_b.jpg

From lower down
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...53f90115_b.jpg
Images from BC Moti https://www.flickr.com/photos/tranbc/

Denscity Apr 26, 2022 3:50 AM

Cool pics

VANRIDERFAN Apr 27, 2022 1:41 PM

Highway 4
 
Was that the section that had the rock overhanging the highway? Beautiful white knuckle drive for sure!

madog222 Apr 27, 2022 8:02 PM

^Yup, plus narrow lanes with no shoulder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3LYc3mAOdU

Metro-One May 4, 2022 4:01 AM

Kelowna's growth requires a second Okanagan Lake bridge

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/kelo...an-lake-bridge

So, to March what is seen in the rest of the developed world this is what a 10 to 15 year highway / transportation plan should look like for Kelowna and the surrounding area:

https://images.dailyhive.com/2022042...p-1024x595.jpg

https://images.dailyhive.com/2022042...s-1024x490.jpg

https://images.dailyhive.com/2022042...l-1024x475.jpg

https://images.dailyhive.com/2022042...p-1024x542.jpg

https://images.dailyhive.com/2022042...p-1024x475.jpg

https://images.dailyhive.com/2022042...p-1024x473.jpg

https://images.dailyhive.com/2022042...p-1024x633.jpg

Almost mockingly this is what is actually planned over the next 10 to 15 years:

https://images.dailyhive.com/2022042...n-1024x542.jpg

https://images.dailyhive.com/2022042...p-1024x473.jpg

Dear province of B.C., please higher me as your transportation planner!

craner May 4, 2022 6:54 AM

That’s really frustrating / depressing.
Thanks for posting all those plans, I wish they would act on the ones with the new alignment & bridge for 97.

Klazu May 8, 2022 3:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metro-One (Post 9615979)
Kelowna's growth requires a second Okanagan Lake bridge

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/kelo...an-lake-bridge

Oh boy. Hippies are at full force in the comments. Kelowna will always be sprawling. That's why people move there, to live in a house. Few residential towers in Downtown will account for less that a percent of the total population.

Mazrim May 12, 2022 5:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Klazu (Post 9619639)
Oh boy. Hippies are at full force in the comments. Kelowna will always be sprawling. That's why people move there, to live in a house. Few residential towers in Downtown will account for less that a percent of the total population.

I'll admit I'm eyerolling about the "old growth forest" comments but I also don't think a freeway so close to Kelowna will ever make sense. The geography and the growth patterns of the area don't really jive with the concept at all. A more substantial bypass with connections to major centers could make sense, and by bypass I mean a significant bypass along the west side of Okanagan Lake from Vernon to Penticton. It wouldn't be right on the shore either, as I'm imagining something much further up the mountains to really keep it separate from everything there today.

There was studies done in the late 90s on a second crossing and it's not too surprising that even back then they didn't have an appetite for it.


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