Yes we CAN...nabis!
Because the Canada remains the ONLY nation globally to not only make cannabis legal but to create a growing industrial sector around it, I thought we'd better split off the discussion under the economy thread into this one. So... Do you like it? If so why? And when was your first experiences with it? Has your opinion changed of it over time?
Personally I grew up in a progressive but tea-totaling house where my parents didn't smoke, drink or do any kinds of drugs but were very unhappy people nonetheless. There was no real stigma over it because how stinky it was and how people react in the mere presence of it. I didn't smoke my first joint until I was with some friends from college at a party when I was 25. Now I use it daily for medical reasons due to liver damage, PTSD, insomnia and chronic pain from a hernia as well as for anxiety from all said conditions. I used to think it was a drug for burnouts and the unambitious now I see it for what it is an all-purpose wonder drug that can do what other medications that cost thousands of dollars can't and can pretty much help everyone is some capacity or another. I'm also glad to see it help the Alberta economy which needs economic diversification more than anything else right now (besides sane fiscal management)... Anyway... Discuss!:tup: |
I was there when the first legal weed was sold in Canada. It was a very exciting night in St. John's - the cannabis retailers opened at midnight the day of legalization (10:30 p.m. Eastern).
https://i.postimg.cc/PxrS0kpR/441221...54953216-o.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/BZzm7kqm/442320...38564864-o.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/qqWQthmP/441186...42912000-o.jpg I can probably count on two hands the number of times I smoked weed growing up. It'd get passed around at a house party or two, but that's really it. I never did it on my own, or alone. As an adult, I knew lots of people who smoked regularly - from a landlord's grandmother, to bosses and coworkers, even a former long-term partner. All different backgrounds. So I never associated it with stoners. It was my impression close to half the population was using it at least occasionally. I don't particularly enjoy it as I'm a drinker and the two don't go together very well. But I do love taking an oil capsule or two to relax when sober. Glad to see we're getting into growing, and happy that our regulations are on the more lenient side of the spectrum across the provinces. Still bitterly disappointed not one of the private cannabis stores is called 4:50. I'm very glad it's legal. I think it's almost harmless compared to booze and tobacco cigarettes. And socially it's been used for so long, even in Canada, to heavily police minorities so I'm very glad that'll be lessened at least somewhat. |
I work in healthcare and though I can honestly say I have never had it though I am very happy to have it legal. In comparison to alcohol it is far less damaging to society and I am happy to see more people smoking cleaning weed. Personal experience would say that alcohol has a hand in maybe 30 percent of the patients I run into in my ER, where as weed is a factor in maybe 2 percent.
I hope this leads to a Portuguese style legalization of all drugs, so that we can stop arresting users and put money where it should be (another discussion). For now it is a good start. |
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I hope that over the coming years, cannabis replaces alcohol as the most popular recreational drug. Cannabis is less bad for people's health than alcohol, it's less addictive, and stoned people are far less violent and disruptive than drunk people. There's a major potential for improvement to social issues if cannabis starts to supersede alcohol.
Although this is fading large parts of our society and culture still see alcohol as normal and cannabis as stigmatized. My company Christmas party had lots of booze but never any weed, for example. |
I'm very happy that weed is now legalized and regulated. I'm not a huge smoker (only partake now and then when I'm back in Canada), but I'm happy that this wonder plant is no longer criminalized. It kind of pisses me off that it was ever illegal in the first place. In retrospect, it was totally irresponsible by the government. How many lives did they ruin due to prohibition?
As for a Portuguese-style of drug regulation, I'm on board. I'd rather have government-regulated drugs than have 17 year old kids dying due to fentanyl-laced MDMA. Prohibition causes more problems than it solves. |
Yes we can...nabis, mais pas de pot avant 21 au Québec dès le 1er Janvier.
I agree with both the federal legalization, and Quebec’s more strict laws that will soon come into force. Other provinces should follow suit. 18 or 19 is too young to be smoking pot. |
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I've never smoked anything. My parents were big smokers when I was a kid and I said something about wanting to try it because they did it. So, at 6 years old, my mom says "ok, take this, stick it in your mouth like this, and suck really hard on it". Needless to say, I went into a coughing fit for several minutes, and fortunately that stuck with me over the years and I never tried it again lol. So smoking a joint was out of the question lol. Now that the edibles are out there I might give it a try sometime, just out of curiosity. But I'm also not a regular drinker, so I doubt cannabis is something that I will do very often if I ever do it. I do joke around now that I'm past 50 that maybe I should start doing some of those things more lol.
I think Ontario has totally screwed up how they have rolled the sale of it out though. It wasn't even in stores until April, the stores that were selected were only told a few weeks before, and the ones that didn't open right on the first date in April were fined. And somehow the government managed to lose money on it. Remember when people would say "legalize and tax weed and the government would pay off it's debt in no time"? lol |
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I did not say anywhere that recreational cannabis is healthy, it clearly isn't. What I did say is that it's better than alcohol. Which research shows is clearly true. Both from a personal health perspective and from a social perspective. Drunk people are more dangerous to themselves and to others than stoned people are. People will always do drugs. Whether it's cannabis, alcohol, tobacco... and of that lot, cannabis is the least harmful. If stoners replace drinkers that's net win. |
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I'm glad we legalized cannabis but the whole industry isn't exactly profitable. Aurora and Canopy aren't going to be until at least 2022 that is if they ever are.
The US are eventually going to legalize cannabis federally so that would be the time for Canadian companies to use their excess production to good use. |
I really love that cannabis is legal, but the government really dropped the ball on legalization. The amount of red tape and bullshit hoops to jump through are the reason the industry isn’t profitable. It’s like the governments went out of their way to ensure it wouldn’t be. The duty paid stickers cost $1 a piece. On a $5 joint thats 1/5 of the cost. The fact that an entire chocolate bar can only have 10mg of THC, is ridiculous. I can buy a bottle of 60 soft gels at 10mg THC per capsule and consume as many as I like, could you imagine eating four chocolate bars to get high? Or drinking 4 cans of cola to get 10 mg of THC. It’s absolutely mind boggling that people who have no idea about cannabis are calling the shots on its consumption, sale, distribution, and production. At least prices have been dropping here in Manitoba, picked up seven grams for $34.99 the other day. That’s reasonable. That’s the same price as most 1/8’s here.
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The maximum doses rules on edibles are not only dumb, they're dangerous. I understand why they did it (it really doesn't take a lot of a black market weed chocolate bar to get someone really high, especially if they're a novice user), but I worry it might actually make the situation more dangerous.
Imagine this scenario. You're a good citizen, you only buy legal weed. You like edibles and you're used to having to eat a whole chocolate bar from Your Local Government Weed Store to get a comfortable level of high. Then you go to a party where people are handing out black market weed chocolates. You rip off about a whole bar's worth from the big square they're tossing around and eat it one go. But because this is black market edibles, you just ate like ten times more weed than you thought you did. The risk of that happening with the way the government has chosen to regulate dosages, is actually quite serious. I feel like it would actually be safer to have regulated THC per gram dosages similar to black market normals, but regulate smaller portion sizes in the packaging (with TAKE ONE AT A TIME written in big letters on the packaging) to prevent novices from eating too much. |
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I am happy about legalization. Even though I don't really smoke very often, it was nice to see it finally happen. I never though I would see it happen honestly.
I smoked once in a while when I was a teen and smoked a handful of times when I was in my 20s. When Cannabis was legalized it had been well over a decade since I smoked any cannabis. I had to go out and buy some when it was legalized. I got a little carried away going to all the cannabis shops buying a little bit at each one. I tried the oil capsules for the first time and also the cannabis spray. I think I took a bit too much spray cause I got completely rocked and it lasted for a very long time. It was intense. Overall I think its great they legalized it. I like going into the cannabis shops. The only people I hear complaining about legalization are people that were always against pot or people that smoke way too much pot. The only thing I was a bit pissed off about is that I am not allowed to grow my own pot plant here in Manitoba. That is something I have always wanted to do. :( |
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