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esquire Mar 1, 2023 8:25 PM

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Originally Posted by casper (Post 9879680)
The video that explains all things about airport code, including how Canada is special.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfOUVYQnuhw

Thanks, I'll check it out.

JakeLRS Mar 3, 2023 12:57 AM

Swoop added the following to their booking system for Summer 2023.

YHM-YYG - 3x weekly (returning)
YHM-YDF - 2x weekly (returning)
YYZ-YDF - 4x weekly (returning)
YXU-YXX - 4x weekly (returning, last served summer 2019)

Dominion301 Mar 3, 2023 2:38 AM

Federal Government investing in new high-tech seafood cargo handling capacity at YQX: https://www.newswire.ca/news-release...826152117.html

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Today, the Minister of Rural Economic Development, the Honourable Gudie Hutchings, and the Minister of Tourism and Associate Minister of Finance, the Honourable Randy Boissonnault, on behalf of the Minister of Transport, the Honourable Omar Alghabra, announced an investment of up to $4.6 million under the National Trade Corridors Fund for the construction of a specialized seafood storage facility project at the Gander International Airport.

This close to $9.7 million total project will allow the Gander International Airport Authority Inc. to build a seafood storage facility that will be equipped with water treatment systems, sea water storage tanks, cold/chilled storage, and blast freezers. It will be able to store up to 75 tonnes of fresh or live seafood and will allow for rapid offloading of delivered cargo from shippers and producers.

hollywoodcory Mar 4, 2023 6:10 AM

WS is adding a red-eye YYC-ATL effective May 18. I can't remember the last time YYC has a US bound flight scheduled after pre-clearance closes?

YYC 23:50 - 06:08+1 ATL 737 246
ATL 09:00 - 11:39 YYC 737 357

Also YYC-SEA and YYZ-BNA are both fully moving from Encore DH4 to mainline 737s.

hollywoodcory Mar 4, 2023 7:27 PM

Additional WS S23 changes (compared to S22):

YYC-YYG Increased to 4x weekly
YYC-YXY Increased to 4x weekly
YYC-LAX Increased to 3x daily
YYC-SEA 2x daily 737 replaces 2x DH4
YYC-PDX Increased to 2x daily
YYC-SFO Increased to 17x weekly
YYC-JFK Increased to 6x weekly
YYC-DEN Increased to 4x weekly
YYC-ATL Increased to 10x weekly
YYC-SAN Reduced to 3x weekly
YYC-IAH Increased to 13x weekly

YEG-YYT Increased to 4x weekly
YEG-LAX Increased to 1x daily
YEG-LAS Increased to 11x weekly

YYZ-BNA Reduced to 3x weekly, moved to mainline
YYZ-LGA Reduced to 1x daily

YVR-SFO Reduced to 1x daily
YVR-LAX Reduced to 2x daily

All Encore DH4 flying is removed from the East. YYZ-YOW/YUL show 1x daily 737.

peytol Mar 4, 2023 7:58 PM

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Originally Posted by hollywoodcory (Post 9882894)
Additional WS S23 changes (compared to S22):

YYC-YYG Increased to 4x weekly
YYC-YXY Increased to 4x weekly
YYC-LAX Increased to 3x daily
YYC-SEA 2x daily 737 replaces 2x DH4
YYC-PDX Increased to 2x daily
YYC-SFO Increased to 17x weekly
YYC-JFK Increased to 6x weekly
YYC-DEN Increased to 4x weekly
YYC-ATL Increased to 10x weekly
YYC-SAN Reduced to 3x weekly
YYC-IAH Increased to 13x weekly

YEG-YYT Increased to 4x weekly
YEG-LAX Increased to 1x daily
YEG-LAS Increased to 11x weekly

YYZ-BNA Reduced to 3x weekly, moved to mainline
YYZ-LGA Reduced to 1x daily

YVR-SFO Reduced to 1x daily
YVR-LAX Reduced to 2x daily

All Encore DH4 flying is removed from the East. YYZ-YOW/YUL show 1x daily 737.

It's almost unbelievable that YOW, YUL and LGA are all only once a day. Westjet walked away from the delta JV over those LGA slots. It's really hard to believe they didn't make any money out east for the last 20 years?

I assume YQM YFC YQB YYG YSY YDF are all gone.

casper Mar 4, 2023 8:03 PM

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Originally Posted by peytol (Post 9882918)
It's almost unbelievable that YOW, YUL and LGA are all only once a day. Westjet walked away from the delta JV over those LGA slots. It's really hard to believe they didn't make any money out east for the last 20 years?

I assume YQM YFC YQB YYG YSY YDF are all gone.

Are they allowed to lease out the slots or are they forced to operate them with their own aircraft.

Dominion301 Mar 4, 2023 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by peytol (Post 9882918)
It's almost unbelievable that YOW, YUL and LGA are all only once a day. Westjet walked away from the delta JV over those LGA slots. It's really hard to believe they didn't make any money out east for the last 20 years?

I assume YQM YFC YQB YYG YSY YDF are all gone.

This summer YOW-YYZ will only have, at present, 17 daily departures between 3 carriers. For perspective in 2019, AC alone operated 18x on weekdays. Factoring in YTZ, YOW-YTO is 31x on weekdays in summer 2023 vs 44x in 2019. YUL-YTO is also lower by about 11x/day. Obviously Teams/Zoom has permanently replaced some triangle flying but WS’ defeat in the east accounts for the majority of this.

It’s kind a nuts WS didn’t keep triangle routes 3x 737 to feed banks and to actually still capture some O&D.

Zmonkey Mar 5, 2023 1:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Dominion301 (Post 9883051)
This summer YOW-YYZ will only have, at present, 17 daily departures between 3 carriers. For perspective in 2019, AC alone operated 18x on weekdays. Factoring in YTZ, YOW-YTO is 31x on weekdays in summer 2023 vs 44x in 2019. YUL-YTO is also lower by about 11x/day. Obviously Teams/Zoom has permanently replaced some triangle flying but WS’ defeat in the east accounts for the majority of this.

It’s kind a nuts WS didn’t keep triangle routes 3x 737 to feed banks and to actually still capture some O&D.

Our conference budget is down 50% from pre pandemic, and down 75% for non senior staff. We used to use it as training but with so many inflationary pressures it was a cost that likely won't come back.

hollywoodcory Mar 5, 2023 2:50 AM

I guess WS managed to get a better slot pair at NRT as they loaded a revised schedule: no more 10pm departure.

WS80 YYC 15:10 - 16:15+1 NRT 357
WS81 NRT 18:15 - 12:15 YYC 146

Also opens the door to potential expanded codeshare with JL.

zahav Mar 5, 2023 2:21 PM

I continue to be shocked just how Westjet has dismantled its YYZ hub, and so many years after establishing it (it was 2004 when they moved their eastern base from YHM to YYZ). That is a long time to maintain a hub, they nurtured it for 16 years, basically until Covid, and then in the last few months it's been swift and furious cuts. Once daily to YOW and YUL? That's insane, it's a shadow of the former frequency. WS was certainly not lying when they said they were going to focus on YYC... I thought it was going to be the elimination of the Europe routes and maybe some domestic reductions, but this is way further than I expected. Not that YYZ has any lack of competition or anything, the void will quickly be filled I'm sure, lots of other airlines there to pick up the slack. It's moreso just kind of shocking they did it like that.

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Originally Posted by hollywoodcory (Post 9882894)
Additional WS S23 changes (compared to S22):

YYC-YYG Increased to 4x weekly
YYC-YXY Increased to 4x weekly
YYC-LAX Increased to 3x daily
YYC-SEA 2x daily 737 replaces 2x DH4
YYC-PDX Increased to 2x daily
YYC-SFO Increased to 17x weekly
YYC-JFK Increased to 6x weekly
YYC-DEN Increased to 4x weekly
YYC-ATL Increased to 10x weekly
YYC-SAN Reduced to 3x weekly
YYC-IAH Increased to 13x weekly

YEG-YYT Increased to 4x weekly
YEG-LAX Increased to 1x daily
YEG-LAS Increased to 11x weekly

YYZ-BNA Reduced to 3x weekly, moved to mainline
YYZ-LGA Reduced to 1x daily

YVR-SFO Reduced to 1x daily
YVR-LAX Reduced to 2x daily

All Encore DH4 flying is removed from the East. YYZ-YOW/YUL show 1x daily 737.

Looks like YVR-ATL has been bumped up to daily as well, from June 18 to Sep. 5 (it operates May 17 to Oct. 27, at various frequencies). It was initially announced as 4x daily, and moved up to daily around 2 weeks after being announced. I take that as a good sign, and Atlanta is a very important market, and moreso by the day. It should be year round, one day maybe... If someone told me last year that WS was going to be flying YVR-ATL and YVR-BNA, and UA was going to fly daily YYC-IAD, I'd think they're out to lunch. I always would have thought Delta would be the one to fly YVR-ATL, so interesting to see WS take it. I am still somewhat skeptical about the daily UA YYC-IAD flight to be honest, seems like a whole lot at once, when UA never really gave YYC more than the usual lineup and now a daily IAD out of nowhere? And with WS also flying it? I know IAD is a great destination and a huge UA hub, so it's an awesome add, just kind of surprising!

SignalHillHiker Mar 6, 2023 10:24 AM

At least they're finally trying.

Missed connections: N.L. eyes options in search for direct air routes to Europe

Premier and tourism minister pitched Aer Lingus on Dublin-St. John’s route

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"Obviously the re-establishment of a European route is extremely important to us, re-establishment of a direct U.S. route is important to us, as is regional connectivity," Crocker told CBC News.

The minister said the government has "an important role to play" but acknowledged that it's a tough time as the industry emerges from a COVID-19-related slump.

"The thing we hear consistently from airlines when we talk to them is they're trying themselves — as we are as a province — to get back to pre-pandemic numbers," he said.

"Their first priority is to get back to their routes that they had pre-pandemic."

The province hasn't had a direct connection to Europe since 2019, when Air Canada suspended the St. John's-to-London Heathrow flight in the wake of safety concerns involving Boeing 737 Max 8 aircraft.

Crocker also had a virtual call with the German leisure airline Condor in October. Condor has operated a seasonal direct connection from Frankfurt to Halifax and has flights to other Canadian cities.

The minister said the airlines are listening, and he thinks the government is making a good case. But he acknowledges that it's a bit of a long game, at this point.

"We'll focus on 2024 because we haven't seen any uptake in 2023, and at this point in time we won't," Crocker said.

Aer Lingus did not respond to requests for comment. CBC News learned about the meeting through an access-to-information request.

In an emailed statement to CBC News, Condor spokesperson Johanna Tillmann said the airline is "continuously in talks with several destinations and countries" with respect to new opportunities, and acknowledged meeting with Newfoundland and Labrador officials in recent months.

But Tillman added, "There are currently no concrete plans for these routes."

A year ago, Air Canada told CBC News it "does not have plans to add any international flying out of St. John's." The airline did not respond to messages last week.

WestJet dropped transatlantic flights from St. John's in 2018 and is now refocusing efforts on its base in western Canada.

...

"I think when we do not have direct services to major centres — whether it's into New York, whether it's into Dublin, whether it's into Heathrow, into London — we're missing the opportunity to bring people from further afield," said Deborah Bourden, the new chair of Hospitality Newfoundland and Labrador.

She says the province has a role to play, as everyone continues to look for answers.

"The airlines are facing their own problems," Bourden said. "It's not just about putting money down and buying routes anymore."

...

Aviation industry expert John Gradek agrees. He says transportation links are key.

"If you don't have the air services, [it] doesn't matter how much money you spend in tourism in Newfoundland — you need air to make it work," said Gradek, a lecturer in the aviation management program at McGill University in Montreal.

A lack of flight capacity means the tourism industry has "one, maybe both, hands tied behind your back," he said.

To lure a carrier like Aer Lingus, Gradek says provincial officials need to have a targeted program aimed at supporting a specific service.

"You want to basically make this laser-focused, you want to make it very specific — specific carrier, specific route, specific amount of time," Gradek said.

"And let's see the carrier take action to basically start that service, and get funded directly or indirectly by the provincial government."

...

The tourism minister says they're working on it.

Crocker points toward a pot of $1 million in funding split among airports in Deer Lake, Gander and St. John's last year to assist in route development and better air access.

"If you think about the tourism and hospitality industry, right now it's our No. 1 issue, No. 1 challenge," he said.

"Unfortunately, I think it's going to take time."
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfo...rope-1.6767112

q12 Mar 6, 2023 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by zahav (Post 9883321)
I continue to be shocked just how Westjet has dismantled its YYZ hub, and so many years after establishing it (it was 2004 when they moved their eastern base from YHM to YYZ). That is a long time to maintain a hub, they nurtured it for 16 years, basically until Covid, and then in the last few months it's been swift and furious cuts. Once daily to YOW and YUL? That's insane, it's a shadow of the former frequency. WS was certainly not lying when they said they were going to focus on YYC... I thought it was going to be the elimination of the Europe routes and maybe some domestic reductions, but this is way further than I expected. Not that YYZ has any lack of competition or anything, the void will quickly be filled I'm sure, lots of other airlines there to pick up the slack. It's moreso just kind of shocking they did it like that.

ONEX Airlines (AKA Westjet) this summer:

YYZ-YOW (1x daily)
YYZ-YUL (1x daily)
YYZ-YHZ (1x daily)
YYZ-YYT (1x daily)

Why even bother with one useless daily flight between the busiest airports in Eastern Canada. :shrug:

Dominion301 Mar 6, 2023 4:57 PM

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Originally Posted by q12 (Post 9883908)
ONEX Airlines (AKA Westjet) this summer:

YYZ-YOW (1x daily)
YYZ-YUL (1x daily)
YYZ-YHZ (1x daily)
YYZ-YYT (1x daily)

Why even bother with one useless daily flight between the busiest airports in Eastern Canada. :shrug:

Evidently they, specifically the triangle flights, are still there to ensure you can still connect at YYZ. Why it's only 1x with just a peak afternoon departure and no morning peak departure is a head scratcher. Is there literally no morning bank any longer at YYZ?

YOW and YUL are seeing western Canada increases, especially to YYC where both YOW and YUL will have more than 2x daily on WS for the first time ever.

JakeLRS Mar 6, 2023 7:24 PM

Flair teasing new international routes slated to be announced tomorrow!

nname Mar 6, 2023 8:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JakeLRS (Post 9884254)
Flair teasing new international routes slated to be announced tomorrow!

They'll probably update their schedule or upload something to their server by tonight.

Looks like they uploaded an 20% off base fare promotion starting tomorrow, using Las Vegas as background.

vr6x Mar 6, 2023 8:40 PM

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Originally Posted by q12 (Post 9883908)
ONEX Airlines (AKA Westjet) this summer:

YYZ-YOW (1x daily)
YYZ-YUL (1x daily)
YYZ-YHZ (1x daily)
YYZ-YYT (1x daily)

Why even bother with one useless daily flight between the busiest airports in Eastern Canada. :shrug:

1x daily YYZ-YHZ?! Absolutely atrocious. It looks like 5x daily was planned, but I guess this is what we end up with...

Crazy how YHZ-YYC is going to be up to 4x daily this summer, yet only 1x daily to Toronto? Mind-boggling to me.

nname Mar 7, 2023 1:53 AM

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Originally Posted by JakeLRS (Post 9884254)
Flair teasing new international routes slated to be announced tomorrow!

For W23

YOW-LAS 2x weekly
YKF-PVR 3x weekly
YYC-PHX 4x weekly
YYC-LAS daily
YYZ-PVR 4x weekly

Guess that's all. Surprised they didn't move YVR/YEG-AZA to PHX. There's a hole in schedule that will fit in nicely...

Dominion301 Mar 7, 2023 4:53 AM

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Originally Posted by nname (Post 9884600)
For W23

YOW-LAS 2x weekly
YKF-PVR 3x weekly
YYC-PHX 4x weekly
YYC-LAS daily
YYZ-PVR 4x weekly

Guess that's all. Surprised they didn't move YVR/YEG-AZA to PHX. There's a hole in schedule that will fit in nicely...

Much better timing to actually get YOW-LAS off the ground vs 2021 when traffic was still in the toilet. Odd that they'll serve both AZA and PHX.

nname Mar 7, 2023 5:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Dominion301 (Post 9884705)
Much better timing to actually get YOW-LAS off the ground vs 2021 when traffic was still in the toilet. Odd that they'll serve both AZA and PHX.

They do not have YVR-AZA and YEG-AZA scheduled for W23. So if they are going to restart the route, it will likely go to PHX.


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