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People_talking Mar 24, 2020 4:34 AM

Runway 08/26 at YYC has been closed and is now being used to park un-used aircraft, someone on the Calgary International Airport thread pointed out that there is a 77W parked on the threshold of runway 08. It should be an interesting thing to see once it gets filled up.

thenoflyzone Mar 24, 2020 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by People_talking (Post 8871916)
Runway 08/26 at YYC has been closed and is now being used to park un-used aircraft, someone on the Calgary International Airport thread pointed out that there is a 77W parked on the threshold of runway 08. It should be an interesting thing to see once it gets filled up.

Ever since the parallel runway was built, that runway has probably been a glorified taxiway.

Acajack Mar 24, 2020 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Dominion301 (Post 8871815)
Even with the TS purchase, AC still have about 7 billion in liquidity..and that's before any new borrowing. Until a month ago, AC was in its best shape in its entire history.

It will take more time and some details may change, but I think the deal with Air Transat is going ahead for sure.

Nick Mar 24, 2020 3:10 PM

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Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 8872062)
Ever since the parallel runway was built, that runway has probably been a glorified taxiway.

Correct. We only use it in Chinook operations as a runway. However it doesn’t get the use it did before because lots of our corporate traffic now parks north of Rwy 29. Millionaire, and Apron 9 are new, then Sunwest, Air Partners and medevacs relocated there. With Suncor traffic out of the main terminal operated by Westjet, I’d estimate the south side traffic went from 35% of our movements to under 10%.

Then there are many of those south side arrivals who want an ILS, or don’t want to be squeezed in as a 26 arrival. When we are established in a 29/26 operation, it’s maybe only 10% of the operations. Pre-parallel, we stopped using it as a third runway the Thanksgiving weekend after we moved into the new tower (don’t ask me why I remember that date).

craneSpotter Mar 24, 2020 4:49 PM

Possible that some airport PAX losses for March might be offset somewhat with repatriation flights? I read somewhere yesterday that over the last couple of weeks, over 1 million Canadians returned home (some early?) - many by air.

Westjet is supposed to announce - either today or tomorrow - their layoff numbers. An insider said off-record Sunday it was 2500+ flight attendants.

Airboy Mar 24, 2020 5:03 PM

Imagine only cargo flights north of 60 now. NWT has banned all travel into the territory.

casper Mar 24, 2020 6:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Airboy (Post 8872325)
Imagine only cargo flights north of 60 now. NWT has banned all travel into the territory.

The ban is on non-essential travel. So residents can still fly home (but most isolate for 14 days) in Yellowknife, Fort Smith, Hay River, or Inuvik.

That makes sense given the limited medical resources in many of those remote communities.

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Nick Mar 24, 2020 7:07 PM

Many communities in the NWT are reliant on air cargo for food. Luckily the ice roads would still be open at this time of year, but I'd imagine there would still be a skeleton network of flights within the NWT and Western Nunavut

craneSpotter Mar 24, 2020 7:26 PM

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Originally Posted by craneSpotter (Post 8872301)

Westjet is supposed to announce - either today or tomorrow - their layoff numbers. An insider said off-record Sunday it was 2500+ flight attendants.

Westjet reduces staff by 6,900... :(

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The Calgary-based airline announced Tuesday that 6,900 employees are receiving notices of both voluntary and involuntary leaves, in a move CEO Ed Sims called “devastating.”
https://calgaryherald.com/news/covid...-80a2dad38040/


Air Canada also furloughing up to 600 pilots...

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/busi...to-600-pilots/

TorontoDrew Mar 24, 2020 8:01 PM

Makes sense, it's almost every industry. I don't feel bad for them as almost everybody is going through this right now.

Editing to rephrase that, while I do sympathise with the employees they are experiencing the same thing as so many others now. I'm sure they all saw it coming.

Airboy Mar 24, 2020 8:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick (Post 8872517)
Many communities in the NWT are reliant on air cargo for food. Luckily the ice roads would still be open at this time of year, but I'd imagine there would still be a skeleton network of flights within the NWT and Western Nunavut

Ice roads in NWT mainly do the mine sites. But I have heard they are still hauling. most mines are minimum staff right now. but hauling is still happening.

https://www.dot.gov.nt.ca/Highways/Highway-Conditions

Looks like the MacKenzie valley winter road is closed.

Plus part of the Dempster.

TorontoDrew Mar 24, 2020 8:37 PM

One of the benefits of isolation it seems.

hollywoodcory Mar 24, 2020 10:58 PM

https://news.klm.com/covid-19-klm-st...-destinations/

KLM will operate from March 29-May 3 to only YYC & YYZ in Canada. Both will be 3x weekly on a 787 and in both cases the aircraft remains overnight.

casper Mar 24, 2020 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by hollywoodcory (Post 8872825)
https://news.klm.com/covid-19-klm-st...-destinations/

KLM will operate from March 29-May 3 to only YYC & YYZ in Canada. Both will be 3x weekly on a 787 and in both cases the aircraft remains overnight.

Since YYC and YYZ are WestJet hubs that gives them access to most of the major centers in Canada through their codeshares on the WestJet flights.

Interesting decision to park the aircraft overnight in Canada. I guess the way things are these days no need to optimize aircraft usage.

Dominion301 Mar 24, 2020 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by casper (Post 8872425)
The ban is on non-essential travel. So residents can still fly home (but most isolate for 14 days) in Yellowknife, Fort Smith, Hay River, or Inuvik.

That makes sense given the limited medical resources in many of those remote communities.

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This was 5T's planned schedule prior to the non-essential travel ban: https://canadiannorth.com/coronavirus/

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We will maintain minimum passenger service levels for every community within our network (an up-to-date version of our schedule is bookable online at canadiannorth.com):
For our trunk routes which include Ottawa-Iqaluit, Edmonton-Yellowknife-Inuvik and Montreal-Kuujjuaq, this means reducing passenger service to one flight per day and removing passenger service on one to three days each week.
For smaller community routes, this typically means reducing passenger service from daily to every-other day, except where demand is sufficient to warrant additional capacity.
For our trans-territorial route between Yellowknife, Rankin Inlet and Iqaluit, this means reducing passenger service from four times weekly to two times weekly.
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Originally Posted by craneSpotter (Post 8872301)
Possible that some airport PAX losses for March might be offset somewhat with repatriation flights? I read somewhere yesterday that over the last couple of weeks, over 1 million Canadians returned home (some early?) - many by air.

Westjet is supposed to announce - either today or tomorrow - their layoff numbers. An insider said off-record Sunday it was 2500+ flight attendants.

1/2 their staff are cut...some are voluntary leave, while others are early retirement. 7,100 remain.

AC pilot count cut by 600.

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Originally Posted by thenoflyzone (Post 8871863)
Some interesting updates on airlineroute. Starting with AC.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...as-of-22mar20/



Air France, from 29 March to 21 April, will cancel all long haul service to Canada except to YUL, with 3x weekly B77W service.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...-stop-service/

Lufthansa, from 29 March to 19 April, will cancel all long haul service except to 6 destinations, one of which is FRA-YUL, 3 x weekly A333 service.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...00gmt-23mar20/

Last TS A310 flight now moved up to march 30/31. YYZ-MAN-YYZ.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...te-march-2020/

With the way things are headed in the US, I have a hard time believing that many transborder flights will still be operating by Easter.

thenoflyzone Mar 25, 2020 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by casper (Post 8872840)
Since YYC and YYZ are WestJet hubs that gives them access to most of the major centers in Canada through their codeshares on the WestJet flights.

Interesting decision to park the aircraft overnight in Canada. I guess the way things are these days no need to optimize aircraft usage.

The planes are overnighting most likely because the same crew will operate the return flight the next day.

Alexcaban Mar 25, 2020 1:03 AM

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Originally Posted by casper (Post 8872840)
Since YYC and YYZ are WestJet hubs that gives them access to most of the major centers in Canada through their codeshares on the WestJet flights.

Interesting decision to park the aircraft overnight in Canada. I guess the way things are these days no need to optimize aircraft usage.

And the crew only has to rest for the min time that way.

Denscity Mar 25, 2020 2:56 AM

YCG now lost its YYC 6x weekly flight.
So we now have no scheduled flights in or out.

whatnext Mar 25, 2020 3:12 AM

Lots of parked AC Express planes around the Jazz and AC hangars at YVR.

[IMG]https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...d79a63db_c.jpgIMG_7574 by whatnextyvr, on Flickr[/IMG]

whatnext Mar 25, 2020 7:22 PM

Air Canada flying cargo-only flights:

...Air Canada’s first cargo-only flights departed Toronto this past week for Frankfurt, London and Amsterdam - all important business centres and connection points for cargo forwarding.

The airline is using Boeing 787 aircraft capable of carrying 35 tonnes of cargo. Shippers and freight forwarders are being charged a flat rate for both directions and Air Canada Cargo is also introducing a fractional program, so shippers who do not require a whole aircraft can book space.

The company said arrangements with shippers and freight forwarders contain clear provisions to ensure that these essential goods are being sold at fair market rates and to authorized suppliers.

The company said it is examining possibilities of domestic service as well, working with governments to assess the demand and assist in moving relief goods between multiple Canadian markets.

That work includes using smaller Air Canada Express regional aircraft to reach less-well served, smaller or remote regions in Canada with medical and other emergency supplies in support of local governments....


https://biv.com/article/2020/03/air-...freight-moving


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