Well, we will all know soon enough if this is fake news or not. In the meantime, JamesDL posted more:

Hi all,

word is that a rendering showing the tower integrated in the New York skyline will be available soon. High resolution renderings will follow by the end of the month, most likely developed by DBOX. A homepage (just like with 0ne57) is currently under development, although a proper name has not been chosen yet.

Just this morning I spoke with a friend of mine about the project . We are both very eager to watch this beautiful tower rise in the next years and grace our skyline.

Also, I'd like to add that new D.O.B. filings will be submitted pretty soon. If everything goes according to plan, a construction start by the end of the year is very likely.

Regards,
James

JamesDL also gave some more info regarding that:

Don't worry about the cladding, it will be of the highest quality. The rendering shows a dark green cladding with some black panels (more like lines) in between. A very interesting pattern if you ask me.

I gotta get back to work.

Have a nice day all,

Regards,
James

U know what, my mom's brothers sister in law's daughter's boyfriends dad says he knows donald trump, and he heard on the telephone he will be riding on a flying turkey... Oh what is that u say? Going to a giant circus? oh the TELEPHONE made it sound different. (SARCASM) See, classic case of telephone. whether it's taller, shorter, fatter or actually a mammal wait 'til the actual press release. JamesDL's statements mean NOTHING as far as I'm concerned, and if I am wrong than u can go and call me "Fred Farty Pants".

Sorry for so many posts. :)

PS. Maybe I want to be called that. ;)

Green can work *exceptionally* well if done right.
This architecture firm is well noted for working local regional influences into their designs. I see no reason why this can't be pulled off.

That's ok if they mean nothing to you. But in the meantime it's at least interesting to read what he has to say, and share them here since he is only posting on SSC. We will know pretty soon he wasn't telling the truth if renders aren't out by the end of September. But for now, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt. There are no really obvious holes in the information he has given thus far.

Exact. I also posted this in the SSC. Barnett said the building would NOT have a crown, will now have?!

I was very disappointed with this "news", but rather wait for confirmation before me disappointed for complete. :dunno:

I'm fine with that, just take comfort knowing that it's 50/50 chances of this being the truth if not less.

This is ridiculously out of character for both the architects and Barnett. This guy may be telling the truth but doesn't have all the facts, It doesn't seem realistic that they would let this leak or that the height would make it shorter than 432 park, Barnett has wanted to top 432 park for awhile now and would lose vast amounts of money by shortening the building height.

Although not realistic the design concepts are certainly original from the sound of it.

Curvy and green with a crown.....hmm.. KING CUCUMBER! :frog:

^Haha, and while we're at it we should say hello to queen tomato over at 107 W 57th. :)

There was a recent article stating that this would top 432 but I think they were mistaken and just going from the 1550 rumor. We have no logical reason to believe this tower will end up taller than 1250.

Zapatan, it's freaky but your number of posts happens to be 1550!

1550 was never a rumor, it was the permit filings.

I believe there was too much buildup for the height to be reduced this much, If it is reduced then Barnett was a fool and will lose all his wow factor with the status of "1550' to the highest occupiable floor", "Taller than 432 park" and "Tallest building in the western hemisphere by roof height" tied to this project. It seems unusual and a bit like an architectural soap opera.

Exactly, and as a matter of fact, this last information is much more like a rumor. It could end up being true, but also could be anybody just making that up.
Those 1550 feet is indeed official information, if the devoloper decided to decrease the height, for whatever reason, it is another thing.
Anyway, we'll have to wait and see what is the true truth.

I think that about 99 % of newyorkers weren't aware that they were possibly going to build a 1550+ skyscraper. (as most of them must not know that they are building such a tall tower as 432 Park for example)
You can be sure that if it the decreased height end up being true, Barnett would have a good reason for that. If for him is more convienent to build a 1250 ft. tower instead of 1550 one he would do the former. His primary objetive is not to build the tallest tower in New York, that is just a plus.
And architectural soap opera has been a lot, how many projects has been announced to much fanfarre and ended up at nothing at all? At least this one, with more or less height, seems to be build.

I believe there is a word for what this guy is doing... it's called TROLLING


1. I'd say more Like 98.23% ;) but those majority NYers are not his customers.
2. Not with all the hubbub his to-be customers are reading about, going from topping all the buildings in the western hemisphere to barely taller than the soon-to-be 3rd tallest? I don't think so, he would lose the appeal.
3."Next Time on Days of our Skyscrapers..." :)

I mean if 1 world trade center is no longer really 1776 feet I see no reason why he can't chop off 300 feet for economic reasons. He wouldn't lose anything, not many people even know this tower is going up anyway, like stated before 99% of the general public are probably unaware of this project.

Haha maybe it's a sign :D

Honestly, if it somehow ends up 1550 or beyond (I highly doubt it will) we are very lucky but I think you're silly if your hopes are too high.

I don't think Barnett will lose "vast amounts of money" with a shorter tower. Whatever the height will be, it will be taller than One57. And no one has said the tower would be "smaller". It's probably just configured to give Barnett more money for the development. And as I've said earlier, don't assume this is the last tower Gary Barnett is going to build.


Until revised permits are filed, or details of new plans are released, we'll go with what we know officially. That's why all of the press articles still refer to the building as being 1,550 ft, and that's why we haven't changed the thread title here. No one wants to operate on rumors, until they become facts or come from a source that could give the facts. That 1,550 ft height comes from official City documents.


I think not. Barnett has said height has never been the issue with his developments. His One57 is significantly shorter, but in the meantime it's become one of the most successful in Manhattan.


I find the information to be very credible, although it could already be dated.




Let's revisit some earlier posts on the topic:












I wouldn't be surprised if the tower height was reduced, but I wouldn't be surprised if it were higher. Either way, it will be a brand new addition to the City's skyline, will no doubt be a quality design, and will be under construction soon. When the renderings are revealed, the excitement will jump up a notch, despite whatever the final height will be.

You Know what, Whatever the truth is I'll just be happy with a building over 1000'. If this new construction continues at this rate then 1000 footers will be fillers quite soon. And If it does turn out to be shorter I can bet on getting a new tallest under construction by 2015.

PS. I am gonna restate some facts but what 1250' tower takes 5 years to build? Don't forget the new signs up at the lot "Work on this project Is scheduled to be completed by November 2018. Thank you for your patients". ??????? :| I still don't trust it.

The saga of JamesDL continues. I guess ill just keep posting his comments here for those who haven't gone over to SSC yet:

Well, the Nordstrom Store will occupy the base, which will be quite massive. If I remember correctly the first 7 or 8 floors will have a slightly different cladding than the rest of the tower. Still green, but not that dark. According to the rendering the base won't be very visible anyway.

The crown won't be that big. It is my understanding that the mechanical floors will be integrated somehow. The illumination will be classy, with some interesting patterns.

Regarding the shape of the tower, there will be 3 setbacks.

Hope I could help.

Regards,
James

I'd bet the building will end up being closer to 1,550' despite the rumors. The higher floors are worth the most due to the views.