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transitfan Aug 5, 2015 3:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bristolian (Post 7118738)
Just remembering going to these places as a kid ..... are they all gone?

Lum's
Burger Chef
Arthur Treachers Fish and Chips
Sambos
Red Onion
Velvet turtle
Po' Folks
Farrells
Pioneer Chicken
Charlie Browns
Roy Rodgers
Straw Hat Pizza
Pup "n" Taco

Pup 'n' Taco was swallowed up by Taco Bell sometime in the 80s. There was one on the SE corner of Rosecrans Av & Western Av in Gardena when I moved there in August 1983. The acquistion was not long after that. It appears that the replacement Taco Bell is still there(as of this past April):

https://www.google.com/maps/place/We...3d84c719b990d8

GSV

so-cal-bear Aug 5, 2015 3:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bristolian (Post 7118738)
Just remembering going to these places as a kid ..... are they all gone?

Lum's
Burger Chef
Arthur Treachers Fish and Chips
Sambos
Red Onion
Velvet turtle
Po' Folks
Farrells
Pioneer Chicken
Charlie Browns
Roy Rodgers
Straw Hat Pizza
Pup "n" Taco

and back then "A and W" was the best root beer served in that frosty mug

even if the food wasn't that good the memories are

Farrells is alive and well:

http://www.farrellsusa.com

I went to the one in Brea a while ago and it was nearly identical to how I remember them as a kid. Apparently a lot of people were feeling nostalgic like I was because the wait for a table was over an hour.

Forgot about :

Love's BBQ
Naugles ... Viva Naugles! Viva Del Taco! *A commercial I still remember since I was a kid* (When Del Taco bought Naugles when they went in trouble) Del Taco survived. Nasty place though.

HossC Aug 5, 2015 5:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7118717)

It's really too bad the Pioneer Market was torn down. The other 3 corners (of Echo Park Ave. and Sunset Blvd.) are still anchored by vintage buildings.
The old Pioneer Market site is just a parking lot for the Walgreens, the building itself is set back toward Montana Street.

Here's the old market.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...540/8LBiYs.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...540/5QnqbZ.jpg
getty

:previous: It looks like an Apartment Hotel was torn down as well (for the Walgreens parking lot). Does anyone know the name of this hotel?

aerial. (I'm guessing at the dimensions)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...913/8bdl0w.jpg
google_aerial

Do you have a vintage aerial for us Hoss? ;)

The last image to show the old Pioneer Market is 1980 (which fits with the information about its demolition). Luckily, the 1980 image is pretty clear.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...oneerFoods.jpg
Historic Aerials

The Pioneer Market was at 1601 Sunset Boulevard. The 1942 CD lists the Williamson Apartments at 1611½ Sunset Boulevard. Later CDs just seem to list the names of residents, but not the building.

Tourmaline Aug 5, 2015 5:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bristolian (Post 7118738)
Just remembering going to these places as a kid ..... are they all gone?

Lum's
Burger Chef
Arthur Treachers Fish and Chips
Sambos
Red Onion
Velvet turtle
Po' Folks
Farrells
Pioneer Chicken
Charlie Browns
Roy Rodgers
Straw Hat Pizza
Pup "n" Taco

and back then "A and W" was the best root beer served in that frosty mug



Residential listings for Arthur Treacher:

1936 - 1746 Cherokee Ave.

1939 - 4800 Woodley Ave.

1945 - 14265 Greenleaf



1948 - Ken Niles, Tom (Breakfast With) Breneman and Arthur (Fish and Chips) Treacher.
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00083/00083272.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00083/00083272.jpg



1948 -
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00114/00114427.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00114/00114427.jpg



https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=JN.7...d=1.9&rs=0&p=0https://tse1.mm.bing.net/th?&id=JN.7...d=1.9&rs=0&p=0





http://boomerscruzin.com/wp-content/...15/03/lums.pnghttp://boomerscruzin.com/wp-content/...15/03/lums.png





Lums, not to be confused with Allan Lum's at 911 N Broadway.
http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/v...e.jpg~originalhttp://i668.photobucket.com/albums/v...e.jpg~original




A Brief History of Great Shuttered Restaurants of L.A. (Buggy Whip Steakhouse, El Conquistador, Bahooka, Fung Lum Restaurant and Rubin's Red Hot) >>> http://www.laweekly.com/restaurants/...photos-4448873



The Buggy Whip, 7420 La Tijera Blvd
http://images1.laweekly.com/imager/b...taurant001.jpghttp://images1.laweekly.com/imager/b...taurant001.jpg


http://images1.laweekly.com/imager/b.../9546874.0.jpghttp://images1.laweekly.com/imager/b.../9546874.0.jpg

ethereal_reality Aug 5, 2015 6:43 PM

Thanks for the aerial showing the Pioneer Market Hoss (and for the information on the Williamson Apartments)
I was surprised to see that six good sized buildings stood where the Walgreens parking lot is today.
__



1940s matchbook cover.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...673/FVHjda.jpg
eBay



1026 Santa Fe Avenue today
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...538/tlviMf.jpg
gsv



The Mefford Chemical Co. left it's M above the entrance.:)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...537/Fvz5ul.jpg
detail / gsv



complete matchbook
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...538/oi3Ix0.jpghttp://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...540/xVgLwK.jpg
eBay


Mefford's list of products.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...537/WQGzwI.jpg
eBay

ethereal_reality Aug 5, 2015 7:13 PM

"Beautiful vintage 1905 silver gelatin photo of Westlake Park in Los Angeles, California.
Shows a woven gazebo and a Victoria Couple sitting on a bench. Rare images."

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...537/6ATc2j.jpg
eBay

We've seen photographs of the Westlake gazebo on NLA, but none as detailed as this.
The thatched design is quite a work of art.

__

BarSnake Aug 5, 2015 7:23 PM

I forgot all about Aurther Treacher's Fish and Chips. I used to love them.

ethereal_reality Aug 5, 2015 7:47 PM

Our family ate at a Piece O' Pizza on our first trip to California.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...537/MgeOWP.jpg
http://www.oldlarestaurants.com/piece-o-pizza/




crash!
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/320...537/5mi9yr.jpg
zimbio

ethereal_reality Aug 5, 2015 8:06 PM

I spy

a nice looking mural in the Blossom Room at the Roosevelt Hotel (1920s).

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...661/bZhZ2n.png
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...661/bH3lcJ.png
Hollywood Filmograh at http://lantern.mediahist.org/?f%5Bco...nge_start=1911




http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...661/nmh6vy.png
http://lantern.mediahist.org/?f%5Bco...nge_start=1911


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...912/QMcpVg.jpg

I don't know how long the Blossom Room lasted in the Roosevelt Hotel (or what happened to the mural ;)).

ethereal_reality Aug 5, 2015 9:18 PM

Speaking of murals...take a look at this magnum opus.


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...673/fXwjBW.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co.../id/2006/rec/1

The fresco/mural was painted in 1936 by Philip Guston (aka Philip Goldstein) & Reuben Kadish for the library at the Los Angeles Tubercular Sanatorium in Duarte CA.

This T-shaped painting surrounding a doorway includes more than 30 nudes and semi-nude figures depicting the sweeping progression of human life. To the left is the energy and hopefulness of youth, while on the right the scenes are of decline and disappointment. Connecting the two sections is a group of figures over the door representing the arts.


detail / left
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...673/LVlRRr.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co.../id/2006/rec/1



detail / right
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...540/taSwGK.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co.../id/2006/rec/1

Today the Los Angeles Tubercular Sanatorium is City of Hope Medical Center, and the former library is the Visitors Services Center.
As far as I know, the mural is still there.

So what do you think of this mural? I think the subject is depressing...youth and vigor on one side, death and disappointment on the other.
If I were sick with TB I wouldn't appreciate it.

__

Earl Boebert Aug 5, 2015 10:35 PM

More from the adventures of Grumpy Cat, er, William Conrad as Frank Cannon. If folks can ID these I'll take a crack at updating imdb. From "Dead Pigeon," 1971

Our hero approaches a mystery motel, right on the beach:

http://www.bitsmasherpress.com/LANoir/Cannon7.jpg

Later at a mystery hotel:

http://www.bitsmasherpress.com/LANoir/Cannon8.jpg

Yeah, up there, that's where the hotel room is:

http://www.bitsmasherpress.com/LANoir/Cannon9.jpg

Gee, I wonder where this is:

http://www.bitsmasherpress.com/LANoir/Cannon10.jpg

And, as fate often has it, we end up at a mystery Emergency Room:

http://www.bitsmasherpress.com/LANoir/Cannon11.jpg

Cheers,

Earl

CityBoyDoug Aug 5, 2015 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7119351)
Speaking of murals...take a look at this magnum opus.

The fresco/mural was painted in 1936 by Philip Guston (aka Philip Goldstein) & Reuben Kadish for the library at the Los Angeles Tubercular Sanatorium in Duarte CA.
detail / right
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...540/taSwGK.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co.../id/2006/rec/1


Today the Los Angeles Tubercular Sanatorium is City of Hope Medical Center, and the former library is the Visitors Services Center.
As far as I know, the mural is still there.

So what do you think of this mural? I think the subject is depressing...youth and vigor on one side, death and disappointment on the other.
If I were sick with TB I wouldn't appreciate it.

__

Thanks ER for posting...another fascinating mural for us to dissect..

This mural reveals that its evidently alright to paint a huge permanent mural that's a visual diagnosis of the artist's mental health or lack there of.

I feel ill just looking at it.


A quick dip over at the Springs and I'll be feeling fine. I especially like the bubbling water effect.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...psluqewy2w.jpg
KCET

fhammon Aug 6, 2015 2:49 AM

Probems Regestering Here
 
Sorry to interrupt but two LA historians that I know from the El Pueblo forum at Yahoo have had difficulty registering at SSP (this website) over the years and gave up trying. I don't know what the problem is...

One is Brent Dickerson the creator of 'A Visit to Old Los Angeles and Environs'

https://web.csulb.edu/~odinthor/socal1.html which I'm sure you've seen

..and the second person is none other than LA Cowboy himself, Brady Westwater.

http://lacowboy.blogspot.com/

I've noticed we've had some new members, at least one on July. Does anybody have an idea what the problem is?
Apparently this is beyond ethereal_reality's ability to help because of the way skyscraperpage is set up.

Aside from E_R there's nobody else to talk to here and enquirers to the given "help" address go unanswered.

HenryHuntington Aug 6, 2015 3:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by so-cal-bear (Post 7118861)
Forgot about :

Love's BBQ
Naugles ... Viva Naugles! Viva Del Taco! *A commercial I still remember since I was a kid* (When Del Taco bought Naugles when they went in trouble) Del Taco survived. Nasty place though.

Did somebody say Naugles?

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/n...estaurant.html

Sadly for me, I was a day late though not a dollar short. Will just have to keep cruising by their location on the weekends until I can spot an opening and pounce.

Wig-Wag Aug 6, 2015 4:32 AM

Mama Look! A Mushroom Cloud!
 
When my wife's mom passed away sixteen years ago and we went through the time honored ritual of cleaning out her Culver City home,
I saved a number of interesting items, including this amusing little jewel from her kitchen. The cold war was so much fun!

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...pswnrkmzs9.jpg

I believe this is the original home of ATOMITE. The Google street view address is a bit imprecise. The Standard Floor and Wall Company in Culver City
occupied the corner of the "Meralta block" where Meralta Plaza and Fire Station 1 stand today.

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...psjjqqxunf.jpg
Cheers,
Jack

CityBoyDoug Aug 6, 2015 6:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fhammon (Post 7119708)
Sorry to interrupt but two LA historians that I know from the El Pueblo forum at Yahoo have had difficulty registering at SSP (this website) over the years and gave up trying. I don't know what the problem is...

One is Brent Dickerson the creator of 'A Visit to Old Los Angeles and Environs'

https://web.csulb.edu/~odinthor/socal1.html which I'm sure you've seen

..and the second person is none other than LA Cowboy himself, Brady Westwater.

http://lacowboy.blogspot.com/

I've noticed we've had some new members, at least one on July. Does anybody have an idea what the problem is?
Apparently this is beyond ethereal_reality's ability to help because of the way skyscraperpage is set up.

Aside from E_R there's nobody else to talk to here and enquirers to the given "help" address go unanswered.

Since this is only a ''thread'' of the blog. I think one would have to register the Skyscraper website + this thread.

tovangar2 Aug 6, 2015 7:35 AM

WWW & TimBL
 
It's that day again. Although Tim Berners-Lee invented the Web in 1989, 6 August 1991 was the first time it could be publicly accessed, so Happy Birthday to the Web . Berners-Lee designed the Web to be decentralized, with no over-arching authority and has been at the forefront ever since to keep it that way. He also refused to profit from it. He didn't patent it and receives no royalties. It's the gift he meant it to be.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-v...05231%2BAM.jpg
www.w3.org/

HossC Aug 6, 2015 7:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wig-Wag (Post 7119818)

When my wife's mom passed away sixteen years ago and we went through the time honored ritual of cleaning out her Culver City home,
I saved a number of interesting items, including this amusing little jewel from her kitchen. The cold war was so much fun!

http://i1315.photobucket.com/albums/...pswnrkmzs9.jpg

Here's an early advert for Atomite from the January 23, 1949 edition of the Long Beach Independent.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z.../LAAtomite.jpg
www.newspapers.com

HossC Aug 6, 2015 8:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fhammon (Post 7119708)
Sorry to interrupt but two LA historians that I know from the El Pueblo forum at Yahoo have had difficulty registering at SSP (this website) over the years and gave up trying. I don't know what the problem is...

One is Brent Dickerson the creator of 'A Visit to Old Los Angeles and Environs'

https://web.csulb.edu/~odinthor/socal1.html which I'm sure you've seen

..and the second person is none other than LA Cowboy himself, Brady Westwater.

http://lacowboy.blogspot.com/

I've noticed we've had some new members, at least one on July. Does anybody have an idea what the problem is?
Apparently this is beyond ethereal_reality's ability to help because of the way skyscraperpage is set up.

Aside from E_R there's nobody else to talk to here and enquirers to the given "help" address go unanswered.

You don't say what problems your friends have encountered, so it's hard to make many suggestions. I know at least one forum I signed up to wouldn't accept a Hotmail (now Outlook) email address. This site is clearly still accepting new members as another two have joined in the last couple of hours.

One thing you could try: if you go to the forum home page, there's a link at the bottom labeled Forum Staff (<-- this link takes you to the same page). It lists three forum administrators - maybe sending a PM to one of them will help to find a solution.

oldstuff Aug 6, 2015 2:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatoVerde (Post 7118200)
A 1959 view from just north of Queen Angels Middle School looking south-east and towards the future site of the Velvet Turtle (thanks to FlyingWedge for this ref.)

http://hdl.huntington.org/utils/ajax...XT=&DMROTATE=0

http://hdl.huntington.org/cdm/ref/co...0coll2/id/8910

Just a question: What IS GOING ON with the Velvet Turtle building??? It has sat fenced off and vacant for what seems like 30 years.


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