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ethereal_reality Jun 18, 2015 3:07 AM

'Noirish' view taken from the hills of Griffith Park, showing a 'cone of light' emanating from the Los Angeles Coliseum.

Navy-Day Victory Celebration, 10-27-1945.

-sorry to say, but it reminds me of this:

ethereal_reality Jun 18, 2015 3:38 AM

Here's another intriguing photograph I recently came across on eBay.

Heavy Rain, Los Angeles 1927

Does anyone recognize this street?

A closer view-
detail from


Noircitydame Jun 18, 2015 4:07 AM

Greystone and Sunset Strip
I went to a vintage car show last month at Greystone. Besides the fabulous cars, the mansion was open for touring top to bottom. I got scolded for taking photos inside, tho everybody else was too.

This spiral staircase leads down from the children’s wing to the adult playroom...

It has a bar- a wooden panel pulls down to hide it- with it closed it looks just like the other paneling in the room.

The bowling alley

The billiard table

A section of the kitchen. There’s a complete second smaller kitchen upstairs, above it, near the children’s rooms. I guess Nanny could make them snacks up there without having to troop all the way downstairs. They’re connected by a dumbwaiter.

The police spotlight on one of Greystone’s chimneys. Apparently before radios in cars, HQ could signal red or green to patrolmen in the vicinity and they’d know to report in. The upstairs windows are for Ned Doheny’s room. The lower ones are for the murder room (where, the day I was there a vendow was selling really nice motorcycle clothing).

From a distance. It's the nearer one. The larger chimney group is the living room.

The greenhouse

A 1926 Rolls Royce Lady and a 1931 Cadillac lady.

Earlier that morning I photographed some buildings on Sunset near Doheny Rd. I hadn’t meant to do a then-and-now, it just worked out that way. Here's looking up Sunset toward the white moderne building at 9169.

Similar view c. 1949

Looking the other way. The building on the left used to be where the Cock n' Bull was.

how it looked in 1930s with the bare poinsettia field.
I can't find the link. I'm sure this is an LAPL collection.

9100 block now.

c. 1938

The Crosby Building, 9028, and a glimpse of the 1957 soon-to-be-demolished building built for Scandia restaurant at 9040.

A close up

Same, c. 1938

The noirish back of the building

Then it was off to Dupar's before heading to the show.

tovangar2 Jun 18, 2015 6:21 AM


Thank you for the shots of Greystone. When the AFI was headquartered there we pretty much had the run of the place. It's good to see it again. Your 'then & nows' were terrific too.

HossC Jun 18, 2015 11:33 AM


Very intering posts, Noircitydame and tovangar2. Thanks.


I found this 1933 picture on eBay a couple of nights ago. As the caption says, Joe de la Cruz is shown with a 1911 Ford which spent 18 years in storage in Mexico City before he drove it to Los Angeles. I had a quick look at 1232 East 9th Street (now East Olympic Boulevard), but couldn't recognize any buildings. The car must have been nearly opposite the Morgan, Walls & Clements designed Gotfredson Truck Corporation showroom at 1235 East Olympic. GaylordWilshire wrote about that building in post #17994.

GaylordWilshire Jun 18, 2015 2:42 PM


Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7066496)
Here's another intriguing photograph I recently came across on eBay.

Heavy Rain, Los Angeles 1927

Looks like it might be the "Mariposa Ravine" we've see here before--

From post 5866

GaylordWilshire Jun 18, 2015 2:50 PM


Originally Posted by tovangar2 (Post 7066630)
It appears that the Perelson crime scene hasn't been mentioned on the thread. It's one of those crimes that people get obsessed with (although nothing like on the scale of the Black Dahlia).

ER discovered this a while back-- I think there were follow-ups, but any further searching on the pages just after his post bring up a "phishing scam" alert on my computer.

ethereal_reality Jun 18, 2015 3:23 PM

Yes, but tovanger2's post was much more informative than mine.

I didn't realize the Perelson home was so close to the Ennis House.

and this is, indeed, spooky.

original posted by t2

*I just noticed T2 deleted her post. :(

tovangar2 Jun 18, 2015 3:30 PM


Sorry e_r.

ethereal_reality Jun 18, 2015 3:44 PM

I hope you reconsider t2. There was no comparison between your post and mine. You actually included research in your post.

I was lazy and just supplied a link.

tovangar2 Jun 18, 2015 4:19 PM

Perelson Case
With apologies to e_r and sopas ej:

The Perelson case is one of those crimes that people get obsessed with (although nothing like on the scale of the Black Dahlia).

Dr Harold Perelson, 50, (originally from New York) lived with his wife Lillian, a 42-year-old Buckeye, and their children: Judye, 18, Joel, 13, and Debbie, 11, in a 5,000 sq ft Spanish-style home at 2475 Glendower Place in Los Feliz. (Finished basement with servants' quarters, high-ceilinged main floor, 4bd/3ba upstairs and a ballroom on the third floor.) It was built for $20K in 1925, designed by Henry A Weiner. As one can see from the map the property runs from Glendower Place to Glendower Avenue with Frank Lloyd Wright's much larger Ennis House across the avenue:

On 6 December 1959, after his family went to bed, and for reasons not entirely clear, Dr Perelson elected to bludgeon his wife to death in their bed. Daughter Judye, apparently hearing the commotion, entered her parents' room and was also attacked with the same ball-peen hammer that her father had just used to kill her mother. Judye escaped and, covered in blood, ran down the hill to the next-door neighbors at No. 2471. The younger children, investigating their sister's screams were told by their father to go back to bed as it was only a nightmare. The alarmed neighbor from No. 2471 ran up the hill to the Perelson house, encountered the agitated and blood-soaked doctor and told him to go lie down. Dr Perelson obeyed but drank a glass of acid before lying down and dying next to his wife:

The couple were buried next to each other with matching headstones at Home of Peace (a misnomer in this case) Cemetery in Whittier:
find a grave

The children were taken away by out-of-state relatives.

So far so good. It's the next bit that's the weird part. The home was sold with contents intact (I hope somebody at least threw the murder bed out), in a probate auction some months after the murder/suicide, to Emily and Julian Enrique of Lincoln Heights. Without much disturbing the Perelson's belongings, the Enriques stored some filing cabinets in the home, but never stayed there. Son Rudy Enrique, a retired music store manager from Mount Washington, inherited in 1994 and continued as his parents had. He has said he has no interest in selling the house or using it either (Zillow now values it at $4.1 million). The only maintenance done has been in response to city complaints (the exasperated neighbors also banded together to paint the curbside garage). After 56 years, there's so much water damage, the house would need gutting and a new interior at the very least to make it habitable again, but it's now probably a tear-down. Views through the uncurtained windows show a spooky tableau of mid-century family life where 1960 never arrived:

The Enrique's filing cabinets keeping company down in the basement with Mrs. Perelson's hand washing:

I'm not sure what happened to the children. Some are convinced that Judye is now Judith Hendler, the acrylic jewelry designer of some renown, based in Huntington Beach.

My interest is in what happens next. Rudy Enrique is up in his 80s now. Unless he has an heir to carry on the odd family tradition, there's going to be some changes, at last, at 2475 Glendower Place:
gsv jan 2015

More info:

My LA Bucket List
the hundreds
the irony supplement

Many more on google. This one's all over the net.



The house for sale:

The house sold on 18 July 2016 for $2,289,500. MASSES of photos of the now empty house are here:

Gloria Allred's daughter buys the Los Feliz "Murder House":

Pix of the interior before it was emptied:

HossC Jun 18, 2015 5:41 PM


We're 1460 pages in, so we're bound to get repeats, especially with some sparsely captioned posts and a weak search facility. I know that I've been guilty of not properly captioning pictures, repeating subjects and pointing out other people's repetition, so I hope I come out even :). I can think of several occasions when a subject has received much better attention the second time around, and even those that don't can act as a good reminder to topics that have been forgotten. Personally, I have no recollection of knowing the great story of 2475 Glendower Place before today.

ethereal_reality Jun 18, 2015 5:50 PM

I just found out Edward Fickett's mid-century modern Scandia Restaurant with it's 'Rat-Pack' cool chalet-style swagger was torn down last week. :( (on June 9th I believe)
It took about an hour.



Say Goodbye to the Scandia Building

CityBoyDoug Jun 18, 2015 6:04 PM


Originally Posted by Noircitydame (Post 7066522)
I went to a vintage car show last month at Greystone. Besides the fabulous cars, the mansion was open for touring top to bottom. I got scolded for taking photos inside, tho everybody else was too.


Oh my, NCD, so you took a few photos and they didn't like that. What's their big problem. Good for you....take some more.!:)

ethereal_reality Jun 18, 2015 7:56 PM

Excellent post on Greystone Manor & Sunset NoirCityDame!


Originally Posted by Noircitydame (Post 7066522)
The police spotlight on one of Greystone’s chimneys. Apparently before radios in cars, HQ could signal red or green to patrolmen in the vicinity
and they’d know to report in.
NoirCityDame archive

:previous: My small hometown in Illinois had a signal like that on top of the bank.

The noirish back of the Crosby Building
NoirCityDame archive

:previous: I never expected to see a photograph of the back of the Crosby Building. -very interesting.
Thanks for sharing your pics NCD.

ethereal_reality Jun 18, 2015 8:54 PM

Shopping center in Encino at 4922 Balboa & Ventura Boulevard, Monday evening, January 23rd 1961.

The shopping center pretty much has the same configuration today.

ethereal_reality Jun 18, 2015 10:03 PM

"This remarkable photograph from a Keystone Kops silent film made around 1918 shows Los Angeles Railway "Maggies" nos. 1 and 7." -Ralph Cantos

Looking south on Douglas Street from just above Ridge Way.

Surprisingly, we haven't seen much of the Keystone Kops on NLA. This is the only previous post I could find, and it's from 5 years ago!

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 5067316)
A scene from what looks like the Keystone Kops.

We've discussed many L.A. residences but I can't place this house.

ethereal_reality Jun 18, 2015 10:16 PM

While looking for the location of the sepia Keystone Kops photograph, I noticed this interesting house at 1417 Ridge Way.

It was built in 1912.

has a wonderful little balcony

This is Angelino Heights so there are many such houses.

HossC Jun 18, 2015 10:19 PM

The Swenson Motel at 88th and S Figueroa Streets. The City Directories give the exact address as 8803 S Figueroa Street.

Here's 8803 S Figueroa Street today.

Zooming in, it looks like the Full Moon Inn is the same building with a few small modifications.

Beaudry Jun 18, 2015 11:20 PM

The Stuart K Oliver house, which's popped up here before a number of times, gets a nice little write-up by Nathan Masters as part of the "LA as Subject" series:

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