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ethereal_reality Jun 11, 2015 2:23 PM

Mabel and Maxine

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...538/dWnRWX.jpg
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http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...537/QfwcWh.jpg


Mrs. Mabel Rondeau, Maxine Rondeau, Grand Theft Complaint, 4/10/38.
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Here's Mabel's sister, Mary Nolan.


http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...661/heUI2M.jpg

Mary died in obscurity of a barbiturate overdose in 1948. :(
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ethereal_reality Jun 11, 2015 2:54 PM

Here's an enigmatic.....and spooky photograph.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...540/xOEt4h.jpg
http://www.amazon.com/early-Angeles-...ge+photographs

I wonder if this is Forest Lawn?

Tourmaline Jun 11, 2015 4:03 PM

:previous:

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Dr. Mary S. Ertle, who was believed to have been the first woman to practice medicine in Los Angeles. She died in 1931

Forest Lawn, Glendale

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ethereal_reality Jun 11, 2015 4:07 PM

:previous: Wow, thanks Tourmaline. I had no idea.

Tetsu Jun 11, 2015 4:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaudry (Post 7055625)
I can't help think the same thing...a house this grand, with such distinguishing features (the tower is great, but that double wraparound porch is incredible) that survived at least through 1965, well that we shoulda seen among the various image depositories we plumb so happily. It just strikes me as odd that here the moviemakers were, filming away in downtown LA, Angeleno Heights, etc., and couldn't find a Big Old House to shoot in?

You make a great point as well. Maybe the film was of a low enough budget that one of the filmmakers used the home of a relative or something. "My grandmother says we can film at her place all we want but we've gotta drive out to Pomona." Haha. Guess I shouldn't speculate any further until I actually see the movie in its entirety - which I'd love to!

Tetsu Jun 11, 2015 4:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 7058531)
:previous:


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-X....bmp.jpg?gl=US ebay

Another, older view. Looks like it's long gone-- apparently 60/70/99 ran along Garvey Avenue in the late '30s. So I'm going to say that the church was at the NW corner of Garvey & Baltimore. Here is the corner today--this may be true of a million corners, but note how the street still rises to meet the very corner, sloping off down the streets toward the drains on each side....


https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-s....bmp.jpg?gl=US

That's amazing sleuthing GW - the shapes and positions of the drains, as well as the slope of the streets, seem to match perfectly.

Though I'm from Pasadena, I went to school in Monterey Park when I was a kid. It struck me as a place that had been redeveloped with reckless abandon and no regard to its past. But, now that I look back, I wonder if maybe it just hadn't been developed as heavily as other nearby cities. I think I have a few notes at home on some notable places in MP that I've stumbled upon, but one that comes to mind off the top of my head is this set of stone arches in front of the house at 235 S. McPherrin Avenue:

http://i1312.photobucket.com/albums/...pszquzliyj.png

I always thought it was fascinating that somebody built such a grand edifice in front of such a nondescript house. Always kinda reminded me of the Lummis House in Highland Park.

ethereal_reality Jun 11, 2015 5:01 PM

Tetsu, do you remember this building (1940s?) on S. Atlantic Blvd. in Monterey Park? (just south of the Pomona Freeway)
I am curious about the attractive tile that was used on it's façade. It's pretty unique.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...673/pSamO2.jpg
gsv

I also like that small hexagonal window.




http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...911/0wOYjt.jpg
:previous:very cool.

Home to a Psychic Reader and a Tropical Fish Store. -one stop shopping. ;)

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Tourmaline Jun 11, 2015 6:34 PM

Perhaps not surprisingly there are CD listings for fortune tellers and psychics well over a hundred years ago.



Some prefer the do-it-yourself method.



1931 Wanda "Tipping" table. Made in Hollywood
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...hic&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...hic&DMROTATE=0
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...hic&DMROTATE=0http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/...hic&DMROTATE=0


http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co.../id/2941/rec/1



Others may find it more convenient to travel to SouthGate in 1938

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00099/00099023.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00099/00099023.jpg


http://jpg1.lapl.org/00099/00099022.jpghttp://jpg1.lapl.org/00099/00099022.jpg

ethereal_reality Jun 11, 2015 8:13 PM

"In July 1940, Lupe Velez charged that fortune-teller Nancy Miller had swindled her out of $2,500.
Velez told the L.A. Times: "I'm really going to fix her up. Number one: I punch her in the nose. Number two: I kick her in the teeth.
Number three: I pull her hair."

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/661/JwBlqb.jpg
http://www.seraphicpress.com/hollywood-on-trial/

This is, by far, the worst photograph of Lupe that I have ever seen. She looks so tired.
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ethereal_reality Jun 11, 2015 8:25 PM

Scull and Crossbones warn drivers of blind curve on Cahuenga Pass, 1937.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/540/2BoB9y.jpg
eBay

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...540/c6ARic.jpg

Tourmaline Jun 11, 2015 8:27 PM

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[M]ore than 60,000 Angelenos marched in downtown on June 14, 1916. The Preparedness Day Parade was to protest President Wilson’s policy to not prepare for WW1. The Preparedness Movement was a national campaign led by Leonard Wood and Theodore Roosevelt, who wanted to strengthen the U.S. military after the outbreak of WWI.

Cities around the country held preparedness parades showing their opposition to Wilson’s policies. Wilson changed his mind after the Lusitania was sunk by German U-boats (May 7, 1915) and Pancho Villa launched a raid into New Mexico (March 9, 1916). President Wilson himself led the parade in Washington, D.C., held the same day as the Los Angeles parade.

In Los Angeles, the parade was restricted to marchers, no automobiles, and people from all walks of life from “haberdashers and hatters” to physicians, surgeons and public accountants were encouraged to participate.

Mrs. Josephine Galbraith marshaled a “mighty host” of women marchers, “It was a glorious sight, one never witnessed before in Southern California.” (LA Times, 1916) “They came from Pasadena, from Long Beach, from far-off Lancaster, Santa Monica, Venice, Glendora, Covina, Whittier, to lend their presence to this great event…Smiles light their faces; song at times burst from their lips.”

Perhaps best known Preparedness Parade was in San Francisco on July 22 as a bomb exploded during the parade, killing 10 and injuring many more (footage on YouTube)





June 14, 1916 - Los Angeles Preparedness Parade.
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ethereal_reality Jun 11, 2015 9:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chuckaluck (Post 6285028)
Aug '36 - Wilshire looking west from Vermont. Looks like the moorish Texaco on the north side of Wilshire near New Hampshire.
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00104/00104334.jpg
http://jpg1.lapl.org/00104/00104334.jpg

Here's a closer look at the Carpenter's that is visible in ChuckaLuck's photograph.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/538/07IFLx.jpg
http://collections.nhm.org/seaver-ce...&refirn=551717

ethereal_reality Jun 11, 2015 10:06 PM

"Downtown & Bunker Hill ca. 1880" (I don't recall seeing this photograph before)
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/673/lsl7bQ.jpg
http://collections.nhm.org/seaver-ce...esultsList.php

"This is a view of the front gardens of two small homes, and in distance Bunker Hill which has no construction on it.
This is possibly taken from 9th and Main."


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Martin Pal Jun 11, 2015 10:20 PM

Graybeard hinted at this link before, here, but I thought I'd do it again.

A Visit to Old Los Angeles and Environs

...and the first sentence tells you what it's about:

The author would like to thank California State University, Long Beach, for generously supporting this awarded heritage project—evidently the most complete pictorial survey ever published of downtown Los Angeles of the era 1900-1920.

It then has thirty lengthy pictorial links for a tour of the city and vicinity.

http://web.csulb.edu/~odinthor/socal10a.html

Martin Pal Jun 11, 2015 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality (Post 7058493)
We've had several mentions of the 'Brass Rail' at 334 S. Hill St.
photo here:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=23849

...but have we seen Perry's Brass Rail in Hollywood?

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...538/SmD7jO.jpg
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info: 1933
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...540/ce0Nkz.jpg
reverse of photo.

below: I found this in the 1936 directory; but I'm not sure if this is Perry's.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/640...540/VBcPtg.jpg
http://rescarta.lapl.org/ResCarta-We...00003/00000002

Soooooo....what building, near Hollywood and Vine, housed Perry's Brass Rail?

We haven't seen it, but...

NoirCityDame did a post trying to figure out some conflicting information she had: claiming Sardi’s was where Henry’s used to be; but that couldn’t be right. 6321 where Henry’s was, opened as the new location of Perry’s Brass Rail in March 1934.

Your press photo above, E_R, is dated 1933 and we see Perry's Brass Rail as well as the blade sign of Henry's. Perry's "address" unfortuantely isn't on the press information, but, apparently, if these dates are correct, Perry's Brass Rail moved from the location in your photograph to where Henry's was located, at 6321 Hollywood Blvd.

The L.A.T. ad in NoirCityDame's post would indicate this: It moved three doors east!
http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/k...t3-13-34-1.jpg

Here is a 1933 Bruce Torrence photo dated 1933 that shows Henry's. On the very left, it's hard to tell if Perry's Brass Rail is there, but the design of the storefront to the right of it matches the design to the right of the Perry's sign in your photo. (Sardi's is under construction.)

http://hollywoodphotographs.com/photos/lrg/RN-068-3.jpg

Perry's didn't last long at either address. NoirCityDame indicates that by 1936 it was the Weiss Cafe.

By 1940, that 6321 address was completely rebuilt by Charles Lee into the Admiral Theater, currently the Vine Theater.

Check out NoirCityDame's post about Perry's Brass Rail, Henry's Restaurant, Weiss Cafe, the Admiral, Sardi's and Chi Chi's HERE!

For some perspective of this location, here is an undated LAPL photo of this corner, at Hollywood and Vine. I'd say c.1930. Henry's is there, the Chinese Garden is to the right. Where the first Perry's location will be looks to have a two-word sign, the words beginning with J and S. The Pantages is in the distance to the right.

http://jpg1.lapl.org/pics39/00039172.jpgLAPL

ethereal_reality Jun 11, 2015 11:02 PM

:previous: Excellent information Martin_Pal! Thanks so much.

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HossC Jun 11, 2015 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal (Post 7059741)

Here is a 1933 Bruce Torrence photo dated 1933 that shows Henry's. On the very left, it's hard to tell if Perry's Brass Rail is there, but the design of the storefront to the right of it matches the design to the right of the Perry's sign in your photo. (Sardi's is under construction.)

http://hollywoodphotographs.com/photos/lrg/RN-068-3.jpg

Here's an undated opposite view of Hollywood Boulevard showing the building next to Henry's as Western Auto Supply.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...y.jpg~original
USC Digital Library

ethereal_reality Jun 12, 2015 12:32 AM

"Pacific Electric inbound no.735 at Rose Station, September 1951."

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...540/WrBwwD.jpg
http://www.pacificelectric.org/wp-co...-Sept-1951.jpg

:previous: Woody & Eddy's was a longtime favorite of San Gabriel Valley residents.



http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...661/ztsZwT.jpg
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...and now for the Noir connection.


In 1957, Woody & Eddy's was the scene of a robbery gone bad. (ending up with two dead)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...661/N7fXz5.jpg
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/thed...-of-watch.html


Robber Thomas Barrington lying dead in the entryway to Woody & Eddy's.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...537/buDHgW.jpg
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...537/rG995w.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/re...oll44/id/66834



http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/800...905/6rrDG3.jpg
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/thed...-of-watch.html




Waitress Georgia freaking out.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...538/93hkj6.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/re...oll44/id/66834




Mr. Barrington again, but someone has repositioned his body.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...537/q1RU43.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/re...oll44/id/66834



Wounded deputy Charles Covington
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...661/11JC6H.jpg



Mrs. Charles Covington, wife of wounded deputy sheriff, at St. Luke Hospital.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...911/iqhtcN.png




Bartender Andy Gillian identifying the second robber, Harry Hancock.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...905/Hw72Gn.jpg




To the Clink.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/102...909/lXjaBZ.jpg
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/re...oll44/id/66834


Woody & Eddy's location is now a strip mall that included a Starbucks and Howe's Market.


For further reading go here:
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/thed...-of-watch.html

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ethereal_reality Jun 12, 2015 1:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire (Post 5085425)
http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics13/00026128.jpg
LAPL http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics13/00026128.jpg

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_zXN_GwdMYMo/TM...14258%20PM.jpgGoogle Street View
Casa de Rosas, 950 W. Adams

"Casa de Rosas, also known as the Froebel Institute and the Sunshine Mission, is a historic building in the West Adams district of Los Angeles. The building was designed by Sumner P. Hunt and built in 1893. It was originally an experimental kindergarten and has also been used over the years as a prestigious college preparatory school for girls, an inn and restaurant, a military barracks in World War II, the headquarters of L. Ron Hubbard's Dianetics Foundation, and a shelter for homeless women."

Quite a history.

GW also had a follow up post here, with a fine photograph from USC:
http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/show...ostcount=18090





I just came across two additional photographs of the Froebel Institute that haven't been seen on NLA. (probably because it's misspelled as 'Frobel' at nhm.org)

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/912/PUNQH4.jpg
http://collections.nhm.org/seaver-ce...esultsList.php




And this is my favorite....a look inside the Froebel courtyard.

http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/xq90/901/NPW198.jpg
http://collections.nhm.org/seaver-ce...esultsList.php



The fancy chimney appears to be missing today.
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/128...540/nauhnM.jpg
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*I just noticed the tall twin flues are missing from the chimney in GW's lapl photograph.

CityBoyDoug Jun 12, 2015 1:18 AM

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Originally Posted by HossC (Post 7059785)
Here's an undated opposite view of Hollywood Boulevard showing the building next to Henry's as Western Auto Supply.

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/z...y.jpg~original
USC Digital Library

Hoss.....this is an ad hoc political parade for Arthur Alber....1926 or 1927. [Note the sign on car at the far right.]

Alber was a candidate in 1926 for the 63rd Assembly District seat being vacated by Sidney T. Graves. Alber had the Times endorsement, but came in second to Clare Woolwine. The other candidates were Ernest E. Noon and Voltaire Perkins.

Alber was elected to the Los Angeles City Council District 2 in the May 1927 primary election, ousting six-year incumbent Robert M. Allan by a vote of 4,980 to 2,399. It was said that Alber's victory was partly due to the voters' making a "clean sweep at the City Hall" of the council members allied with political boss Kent Kane Parrot.

The district at that time covered Hollywood south of Franklin Avenue or Hollywood Boulevard and north of Santa Monica Boulevard, including the Los Feliz district.

In his council activity, he was known for introducing a resolution in July 1929 that would have prohibited the rolling down of the shirts of men's bathing suits to the waist line. Only he voted in favor, all the other councilmen being opposed.
[Men's bare chests were considered by some prudes as not to be seen in public.]

For the Christmas season, 1927, Alber presided over a council meeting wearing a silk hat from Paris, presented to him by Councilman Isaac F. Hughes, The Times explained:
The "high-hat" presentation was the result of the recent discussion over whether the members of the City Council should wear two-gallon hats, cutaway coats, striped trousers and spats as they take part in the Tournament of Roses parade at Pasadena on New Year's Day. During the debate Councilman Alber remarked that he did not have a tall hat, so yesterday he was presented with the silk hat by Councilman Hughes... Alber was hailed as the Mayor of Hollywood."


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