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Bailey Jul 6, 2013 2:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinFromTexas (Post 6188910)
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y26...psfc4a0b55.jpg

What's that one behind the Texaco Heritage Plaza? Is that the Centerpoint Energy Plaza? The angle seems a bit funky for it to be.

Do we have anymore renderings/info on the building on the far left?

Brijonmang Jul 6, 2013 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bailey (Post 6189150)
Do we have anymore renderings/info on the building on the far left?

Lockmat on HAIF was able to get a small brochure on the building including a rendering but was told that if the rendering were to find it's way to the masses there could/would be legal ramifications. We had a meet up a little over a month ago and he brought the rendering for those in attendance to see it. It's a sleek glass building about 47 stories if I remember correctly.

TexasPlaya Jul 7, 2013 9:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oscarinhouston (Post 6188791)
Houston needs more ATTRACTIONS!!!! I feel like this is a great place to work, but there's not much to do besides bars and restaurants... COME ON, Houston needs it and waits it.

Like what?

I can think of 2 things: theme park or casino.

Urbannizer Jul 7, 2013 2:02 PM

Richmonds Landing - 7/6 by Jax on HAIF

http://www.houstonarchitecture.com/h...attach_id=3634

http://www.houstonarchitecture.com/h...attach_id=3633

Skyhouse by Jax HAIF

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/7158/mx16.jpg

oscarinhouston Jul 7, 2013 9:15 PM

Well for example: Chicago - Millennium Park/Downtown, Miami - The Scene, Las Vegas - The Strip, Dallas, Six Flags, NOLA - French Quater, San Antonio - The River, Austin 6th St./Downtown/Rivers (I've visited all these cities)... I've been to all this cities and they all have something that the other city doesn't have, I'm very disappointed with what the owners of the Astrodome and their plans to turn it into another convention center. Houston (politicians) keep talking about how this city is turning into a World Class city but I feel like it need an Extra Push to really turn it into a World Class City and not a Regional...

toxteth o'grady Jul 8, 2013 4:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oscarinhouston (Post 6188791)
Houston needs more ATTRACTIONS!!!!


Here you go. Six Flags over Whatever...

Developers close on land for New Caney theme park


http://blog.chron.com/primeproperty/.../622x350-1.jpg

toxteth o'grady Jul 8, 2013 6:16 PM

The Next Great American City?

Smithsonian Magazine asks 'What Makes Houston the Next Great American City?'

cole world11 Jul 8, 2013 8:59 PM

I see you, Houston! :cool:

I was in town a few weeks ago for a concert. WOW. All the development happening around our hotel (we stayed in the Greenway) and around town was crazy. Houston is seriously a city I don't mind getting lost in because you find so many new things that you had no idea were even there. I really enjoy visiting y'alls fine city but really appreciate coming back home where I'm not in stop-and-go traffic for an hour ha. I'm excited for my next trip to the city on the 19th!

Von Jul 8, 2013 9:09 PM

Houston's next great skyscraper? Hines to Texas size new Main Street office tower
 
BY RALPH BIVINS 7.8.13 | 3:13 pm Culture Map Houston

http://houston.culturemap.com/news/r...p-development/

Quote:

“We are moving full speed ahead on design and expect to break ground first quarter of 2014."

photoLith Jul 8, 2013 9:16 PM

Freaking sweet!

chris08876 Jul 8, 2013 10:47 PM

WOW 609 Main Street came as a surprise. This tower is super nice. Does anyone know the estimated height?

shakman Jul 8, 2013 11:16 PM

:previous: I second your WOW. Great times for Downtown!!! :multibow:

KevinFromTexas Jul 8, 2013 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris08876 (Post 6191298)
WOW 609 Main Street came as a surprise. This tower is super nice. Does anyone know the estimated height?

Well the renderings for the 46-story version of it seem to show it at about 630 feet tall. That link that Von posted shows a rendering, and I counted 51 floors. I don't think that is the larger version, though, because they said the design wouldn't be finalized until the end of the year. The current design calls for 815,000 square feet.

1600 Louisiana that Chevron will occupy is planned to have 1.7 million square feet. That tower seems to be around 750 feet tall. It's planned to have 50 floors. 609 Main seems to have a larger footprint than 1600 Louisiana does. So let's say they doubled the size of 609 Main to that of 1600 Louisiana and added 50 percent of the height of 1600 Louisiana. That would be 25 more floors for a total of 71 floors. Adding half the height of 1600 Louisiana in feet would be another 375 feet for a total of 1,005 feet. Of course these are just estimates based on the renderings.

houston19514 Jul 9, 2013 1:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oscarinhouston (Post 6188791)
Houston needs more ATTRACTIONS!!!! I feel like this is a great place to work, but there's not much to do besides bars and restaurants... COME ON, Houston needs it and waits it.

With respect, if you are having trouble finding something to do in Houston, it says more about you than it does about Houston. ;-)

houston19514 Jul 9, 2013 1:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oscarinhouston (Post 6190107)
Well for example: Chicago - Millennium Park/Downtown, Miami - The Scene, Las Vegas - The Strip, Dallas, Six Flags, NOLA - French Quater, San Antonio - The River, Austin 6th St./Downtown/Rivers (I've visited all these cities)... I've been to all this cities and they all have something that the other city doesn't have, I'm very disappointed with what the owners of the Astrodome and their plans to turn it into another convention center. Houston (politicians) keep talking about how this city is turning into a World Class city but I feel like it need an Extra Push to really turn it into a World Class City and not a Regional...

Houston -- Discovery Green, Market Square Park, Kemah Boardwalk, San Jacinto Monument and Battleground Park, Pleasure Pier, Moody Gardens, Memorial Park, I could go on. You should explore Houston some time.

oscarinhouston Jul 9, 2013 1:31 AM

I think Houston's Commercial Real-state can handle the "Tallest Building in the South" or one of the "Tallest" in the Country. Those are exciting news and a building that size will help to attract more International Companies.

shakman Jul 9, 2013 1:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oscarinhouston (Post 6190107)
Well for example: Chicago - Millennium Park/Downtown, Miami - The Scene, Las Vegas - The Strip, Dallas, Six Flags, NOLA - French Quater, San Antonio - The River, Austin 6th St./Downtown/Rivers (I've visited all these cities)... I've been to all this cities and they all have something that the other city doesn't have, I'm very disappointed with what the owners of the Astrodome and their plans to turn it into another convention center. Houston (politicians) keep talking about how this city is turning into a World Class city but I feel like it need an Extra Push to really turn it into a World Class City and not a Regional...

I use to live in Houston during the mid-80's and still found plenty to do and see.

The next time I come out to Houston, I will give you a personal tour. :tup:

oscarinhouston Jul 9, 2013 1:39 AM

Deal!!

toxteth o'grady Jul 9, 2013 1:24 PM

The render for the Hines skyscraper.

http://media.culturemap.com/crop/48/...n_Downtown.jpg

toxteth o'grady Jul 9, 2013 1:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris08876 (Post 6191298)
WOW 609 Main Street came as a surprise. This tower is super nice. Does anyone know the estimated height?

Well, it's been on the radar. I am surprised at the size increase and the plan to go ahead without a tenant signed beforehand.

chris08876 Jul 9, 2013 1:59 PM

Looking through the development list, I have a feeling a super-tall is coming soon. Just seems like a prime time for one.

Urbannizer Jul 10, 2013 6:45 PM

Some news on Five Allen Center..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bisnow
Downtown has a serious pull: It's what got Brookfield local head Paul Frazier into real estate. He worked as mail clerk at Vinson & Elkins the summer before he entered college—intending to become a lawyer like his father—and as he walked the area delivering packages, he was fascinated by the construction boom under way.

Now Paul manages 8.4M SF in the submarket—it's a mailbags to riches story. After graduating from Baylor in 1981, Paul joined The Office Network (an affiliation of companies started by The Horne Co) as a marketer. Two years later, he moved to The Horne Co as an office leasing rep, which has remained his focus. He tells us his two all-time favorite deals were Chevron's lease in 1400 Smith in '06 (it was the largest transaction in the country at the time) and KBR's renewal and expansion Downtown in 2010. The latter was particularly meaningful because KBR planned to build a West Houston campus and his team convinced it to stay Downtown, a major coup for both Brookfield and the submarket.

On his professional bucket list: redeveloping Allen Center and developing Five Allen Center. (That's better than our bucket list which is just: "Meet Cher.") Paul tells us he's never done a significant repositioning of an existing property, so he's looking forward to that process. (Look for more info in a few months.) And Five Allen Center isn't far off; Brookfield plans to build the 1.1M SF 50-story skyscraper on a site it owns. It won't go spec, but based on today's market, Paul imagines he could negotiate a pre-lease in the next year or so and be in the ground in a few years.

Article: http://www.bisnow.com/commercial-rea...-paul-frazier/


Urbannizer Jul 10, 2013 11:17 PM

Project Alpha - 34 Story office tower that may be a part of BLVD Place. If so, it's for the Apache Corporation. They plan to build a tower there.

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2860/9...739b393e_b.jpg

http://issuu.com/swrmarketing/docs/s...nal_electronic

photoLith Jul 10, 2013 11:57 PM

Man, Houston is going crazy right now, or is about to. All that big oil money is good for one thing only in my eye, more awesome skyscrapers.

KevinFromTexas Jul 11, 2013 2:16 AM

I haven't seen this rendering yet for the Marriott Marquis. It looks like they redesigned the top a little. I still think this will be about 400 feet.

http://www.hvs.com/StaticContent/ima...%20MARQUIS.png

Double L Jul 11, 2013 2:24 AM

Not to be a damper on anything but there is a logo on that Marriott Marquis. Logos on skyscrapers are illegal in Houston unless city council approves it.

photoLith Jul 11, 2013 2:45 AM

I thought they were going to break ground on the Marriott like now pretty much.

Shasta Jul 11, 2013 3:46 AM

City Council will let Marriott put whatever lighting they want on top as long as they deliver 1,000 rooms. See the Hilton Americas for an example of how that works...

The Marriott wont break ground until quarter 1 of 2014. It isn't due to open until 2016. The Hyatt Place and Hampton Inn/Homewood Suites will open first.

guess Jul 11, 2013 4:00 AM

Even the awful Embassy Suites has a logo.

atlantaguy Jul 11, 2013 4:21 AM

Wow at 609 Main! And I trust Pickard Chilton to come up with a beautiful design, I love their work.

You guys are most definitely on fire!

treblelino Jul 11, 2013 3:03 PM

Embassy Suites may not be classified as a skyscraper. Even if it is, there is no letter E at the top of the hotel in those empty spaces.

toxteth o'grady Jul 11, 2013 6:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinFromTexas (Post 6194051)
I haven't seen this rendering yet for the Marriott Marquis. It looks like they redesigned the top a little. I still think this will be about 400 feet.

http://www.hvs.com/StaticContent/ima...%20MARQUIS.png

They got rid of the pompadour?

toxteth o'grady Jul 11, 2013 6:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urbannizer (Post 6193537)
Some news on Five Allen Center..

They say they're still looking at a pre-lease - sometime next year. So ground breaking could still be a way's off.

toxteth o'grady Jul 11, 2013 7:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by photoLith (Post 6194076)
I thought they were going to break ground on the Marriott like now pretty much.

I thought groundbreaking was going to be the beginning of next year.

That 34-story project looks to be for a tenant other than Apache, which is supposed to build its 30-story home near Four Oaks Place and the Astoria. Either its for a different tenant or it's wishful thinking.

Urbannizer Jul 11, 2013 7:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toxteth o'grady (Post 6194760)
I thought groundbreaking was going to be the beginning of next year.

That 34-story project looks to be for a tenant other than Apache, which is supposed to build its 30-story home near Four Oaks Place and the Astoria. Either its for a different tenant or it's wishful thinking.

Several HAIFers have confirmed that the 34-story tower is indeed for Apache. They bought some land that's part of BLVD Place and plan to build their new HQ there. The 30-Story tower planned to go up near Four Oaks Place is for BHP Billiton.

The tower is also similar to the largest building seen here in the latest plan for BLVD Place:
http://www.blvdplace.com/Images/Gall...gs/Large/6.jpg

texboy Jul 11, 2013 7:42 PM

Wow, Houston is going to be loaded with tower cranes come this time next year! Not that it already isn't. Exciting times to be living in this city for sure!

KJ

houston19514 Jul 11, 2013 7:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toxteth o'grady (Post 6194760)
I thought groundbreaking was going to be the beginning of next year.

That 34-story project looks to be for a tenant other than Apache, which is supposed to build its 30-story home near Four Oaks Place and the Astoria. Either its for a different tenant or it's wishful thinking.

This one is clearly Apache. You are confusing it with BHP Billiton. BHP Billiton plans the 30-story tower that is in the Four Oaks Place complex (and rumor has it some preliminary site work has started).

Reverberation Jul 11, 2013 10:27 PM

I just received this email alert this afternoon;

http://houston.culturemap.com/news/r...o-be-emerging/

Quote:

Houston high school to be turned into a luxury mixed-use development? Bidding war winner emerging

By Whitney Radley
7.10.13 | 12:56 pm

he bidding war is coming to a close for the Houston Independent School District's High School for Law Enforcement & Criminal Justice campus, which went on the market earlier this summer.

Will HISD select the $42 million bid from St. Thomas High School, the adjacent all-boys Catholic school looking to increase the footprint of its 17-acre campus? Perhaps not, The Leader speculates, since St. Thomas officials aim to charge HISD $225,000 each month over the next five years while the high school finds a new home.

Although the $41,121,411.11 offer from AV Dickson Street, LLC appears to be less on the front end, the investment firm promised to lease back the school to HISD for just $100,000 per month — which could mean a savings of $7.5 million for HISD in the long run.

Plus, as The Leader notes, the sale of the property to a non-educational entity would put the prime 10.9-acre plot back on the tax rolls to funnel an additional $450,000 per year (or more) into the district's coffers.

The group behind AV Dickson Street, which closed on the nearby Bayou Park apartment complex at 4400 Memorial Drive in April, is looking to "create a 26-acre mixed-use luxury retail-office-residential development on the combined properties" over the next decade, according to The Leader.

This site wraps around St. Thomas High School from Memorial Drive to Shepherd.

AustinTay Jul 11, 2013 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reverberation (Post 6195017)
I just received this email alert this afternoon;

http://houston.culturemap.com/news/r...o-be-emerging/



This site wraps around St. Thomas High School from Memorial Drive to Shepherd.

That's my old high school, heard about this a couple months ago. It used to be a good school.

Urbannizer Jul 11, 2013 11:43 PM

Energy Corridor construction update thanks to Bisnow:

Energy Tower III

http://www.bisnow.com/testzz/writer/...r-I-II-III.jpg

Woodbranch Campus Expansion

http://www.bisnow.com/testzz/writer/...Woodbranch.jpg

Energy Center Three

http://www.bisnow.com/testzz/writer/...Center-III.jpg

Office buildings by Transwestern

http://www.bisnow.com/testzz/writer/...7/Westgate.jpg

6-Story Texas Medical Center West Expansion

http://www.bisnow.com/testzz/writer/.../Methodist.jpg

http://www.bisnow.com/commercial-rea...-paul-frazier/

Urbannizer Jul 12, 2013 12:06 AM

More Energy Corridor stuff, Energy Tower IV breaks ground next month.

http://media.bizj.us/view/img/680101...rgytoweriv.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by HBJ
Mac Haik Realty to move forward on next Energy Corridor Tower

Mac Haik Realty said Thursday it is moving forward with the development of the Energy Tower IV, a speculative, Class A office building in the Energy Corridor.

The 17-story, 450,000-square-foot tower will be identical to the Energy Towers II and III at Kirkwood and Interstate 10.

Energy Tower IV is scheduled to break ground in August with occupancy slated for late 2014.

Energy Tower III topped out last week, and Houston-based Technip USA Inc. — which leased the entire tower in April — is expected to move in by the end of January, said Steve Bryant, director of leasing. Energy Towers I, II and III are all 100 percent leased.

Full Article: http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/b...orward-on.html


shakman Jul 12, 2013 2:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toxteth o'grady (Post 6194756)
They got rid of the pompadour?

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! I like the pompadour look. Hopefully that is an older rendering?

JoninATX Jul 12, 2013 3:28 AM

Now Houston just needs to build a 1,200ft.+ mixed use tower. :D

treblelino Jul 12, 2013 4:20 AM

Child, yes! They got rid of the pompadour.

toxteth o'grady Jul 12, 2013 4:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urbannizer (Post 6195125)
More Energy Corridor stuff, Energy Tower IV breaks ground next month.

http://media.bizj.us/view/img/680101...rgytoweriv.jpg

This sounds like a re-announcement, since IV has been speculated about for a while. This picture from the Chron should look familiar.

Houston developer to add new tower to Energy Corridor

http://blog.chron.com/primeproperty/...ng-600x273.jpg

Urbannizer Jul 13, 2013 8:52 PM

Updates taken today

BLVD Place by Skylineview

http://i1241.photobucket.com/albums/...ps36ac9d64.jpg

Astoria site by Skylineview, trailer now gone. Construction said to begin at the end of this month.

http://i1241.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1ec90c70.jpg

Another rendering of Capitol Tower, time of day has changed:
http://texas.construction.com/texas_...as/0617a/5.jpg

A fence is now in place to demolish the current building on the site, but the rent-a-bike rack has to stay due to a 30-day notice requirement.

By Nate99 on HAIF
http://i42.tinypic.com/de71jd.jpg

cloud713 Jul 13, 2013 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KevinFromTexas (Post 6191379)
Well the renderings for the 46-story version of it seem to show it at about 630 feet tall. That link that Von posted shows a rendering, and I counted 51 floors. I don't think that is the larger version, though, because they said the design wouldn't be finalized until the end of the year. The current design calls for 815,000 square feet.

1600 Louisiana that Chevron will occupy is planned to have 1.7 million square feet. That tower seems to be around 750 feet tall. It's planned to have 50 floors. 609 Main seems to have a larger footprint than 1600 Louisiana does. So let's say they doubled the size of 609 Main to that of 1600 Louisiana and added 50 percent of the height of 1600 Louisiana. That would be 25 more floors for a total of 71 floors. Adding half the height of 1600 Louisiana in feet would be another 375 feet for a total of 1,005 feet. Of course these are just estimates based on the renderings.

i didnt realize there were renderings for a 46 story version. there was a diagram of the Hines tower somewhere showing the side view of the 41 story tower, with a 9 story crown, so your count of 51 floors was pretty close. agreed they havent released the larger version yet and wont until the end of the year.
1600 Louisiana has all of that square footage because they have a huge 4 story podium at the base, which is being included in that amount. im not sure the 815,000 ft includes the podium of the Hines tower. i dont see them doubling the size of Hines but even if they "only" bump it up 25%, thats a 51-52 story tower, with a 12 story crown (assuming they keep the proportions of the tower, and bump the 9 story crown up 25%). so we would have a 64 story building. that would mean its a contender for being 900'.
as for Chevron only being 50 stories, if you look at the large rendering the tower itself is 50 floors, with the top and bottom stories being 2 floors high, and then the podium which is 3 floors underneath the tower, each floor being double height too, giving you a 58 story building. i think Chevron could easily be an 800+ footer.. or maybe im just hoping since i think downtown needs some 8-900 footers to fill in the void between 800' and 1000'. id love to get another supertall though.

edit. here is the Hines rendering showing the 9 story crown.
http://www.colvilloffice.com/colvill...ns/hr_plan.png

Urbannizer Jul 14, 2013 10:25 PM

609 Main at Texas said to be 52 Stories now, from HAIF:

Quote:

Originally Posted by cfewell22
I spoke with a guy who is a structural engineer on this project, he did not disclose the height but did tell me the building will be 52 stories.

Signs up for 3737 Buffalo Speedway

By LarryDierker on HAIF
http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/...9/IMG_0659.jpg

http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/...9/IMG_0660.jpg

Tom In Chicago Jul 15, 2013 2:43 AM

Drove by this site earlier today, are they demolishing anything on that block to build this new office building? Looks like they're keeping the trees. . .

. . .

Tom In Chicago Jul 15, 2013 2:47 AM

Looks like the existing office building will remain. . .

http://3737buffalospeedway.com/

. . .


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