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Drcastro Oct 8, 2021 4:26 PM

That appears to be much too low to be the 129th floor. Or are they numbered even weirder than I thought?

pianowizard Oct 8, 2021 6:38 PM

^ I totally agree. This so-called "129th floor" looks to be only around 350 meters high, using 432 Park Ave as a reference.

NYguy Oct 9, 2021 6:35 PM

The 129th would be somewhere close to the top.



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NYguy Oct 9, 2021 6:58 PM

https://www.instagram.com/p/CU0CEA1AAuw/

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pianowizard Oct 11, 2021 5:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pianowizard (Post 9416363)
IMO the photo below shows one of the better perspectives. From many of the other angles, this building looks either too bland or a bit awkward/weird. If it looked this good from all angles, I suspect fewer people would be criticizing it.

https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/c...g?format=1200w

I wrote the above on Oct 5, without providing an explanation because I couldn't articulate why I liked this view. But now I can, after seeing harryc's recent post in the One Chicago thread: CPT somewhat resembles One Chicago from this angle. Here's his post: https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...postcount=3235

NYguy Oct 14, 2021 1:26 AM

https://www.instagram.com/p/CU9HU65MNo-/



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Reeder113 Oct 14, 2021 9:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TREPYE (Post 9416975)
Aesthetic???

This tower categorically has NO aesthetics. Its is a massing exercise that is 1500+ feet tall; the shape is synonymous with building a tower that is 1500 feet tall as cheaply as possible.

A testament to how some developers like Extell should absolutely have no bearing on "contributing" to the NYC skyline as they tastelessly besmirch it with visual trash like this that emanates out of it. As far as Smith and Gill goes, they seem to have really needed to money from this atrocious commission; not a shred of architectural dignity is reflected on this, with the exception that is tall; a towering showcase of indifference to aesthetics or embellishment of any kind.

I suppose you can split hairs by comparing it with 432 Park, but they are both different variations of the same exercise, built it tall and cheap, even if its ugly.

Meh, I think this tower looks great. To each their own, I guess.

Boerumer Oct 14, 2021 10:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reeder113 (Post 9424111)
Meh, I think this tower looks great. To each their own, I guess.

Agreed. As slivers go this one is successful, and frankly I think a spire wouldn't add anything and might in fact have been awkward. I direct my hate mail to 432 Park.

NYguy Oct 20, 2021 7:27 PM

Screen grabs from the Dronalist...


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MAC123 Oct 20, 2021 7:31 PM

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Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 9429222)
Screen grabs from the Dronalist...


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Can't believe in a couple of years this building won't be the tallest any more. Just right now we have 3 proposals that will be taller (1 one of them is gonna have to walk a tightrope to pass). And I'm sure there will be more soon.

NYguy Oct 20, 2021 7:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MAC123 (Post 9429230)
Can't believe in a couple of years this building won't be the tallest any more. Just right now we have 3 proposals that will be taller (1 one of them is gonna have to walk a tightrope to pass). And I'm sure there will be more soon.


I was thinking about that, we could be seeing 2 or 3 (at least) taller towers going up in Midtown alone. I'm fine with it. I'm ecstatic at the thought actually. Just keep climbing that ladder.



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Drcastro Oct 21, 2021 4:58 AM

Does the top only have lighting on the east and south faces? I don’t think I’ve seen the other two sides lit up.

mrnyc Oct 21, 2021 5:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drcastro (Post 9429802)
Does the top only have lighting on the east and south faces? I don’t think I’ve seen the other two sides lit up.

sorry, i haven't noticed, but south too maybe? :shrug:

https://newyorkyimby.com/wp-content/...wn-777x527.jpg

NYguy Oct 21, 2021 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drcastro (Post 9429802)
Does the top only have lighting on the east and south faces? I don’t think I’ve seen the other two sides lit up.

There will be lighting all around, they’ve just been doing a side at a time.



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eXodius Oct 22, 2021 4:48 AM

Taken this evening from Summit:

http://i.imgur.com/UskB88tl.jpg

Drcastro Oct 22, 2021 6:15 AM

Is Summit what they call the top of 1 Vanderbilt?

streetscaper Oct 22, 2021 8:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eXodius (Post 9430925)
Taken this evening from Summit:

http://i.imgur.com/UskB88tl.jpg

Ha! awe were there at the same time!

eXodius Oct 22, 2021 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by streetscaper (Post 9430981)
Ha! awe were there at the same time!

Was hoping to run into some people from this and other skyscraper forums! Guess we should've set up a meeting page! I tried getting up earlier but there was a big line so I missed sunset by a few minutes :(

NYguy Oct 23, 2021 2:29 AM

https://www.instagram.com/p/CVTL7jXLk8P/

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Drcastro Oct 23, 2021 3:38 AM

Is that plane landing at Teeterboro or in the Hudson?

NYguy Oct 24, 2021 11:57 PM

^ LaGuardia.



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NYguy Oct 27, 2021 12:13 AM

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TREPYE Oct 27, 2021 3:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TREPYE (Post 9416975)
Aesthetic???

This tower categorically has NO aesthetics. Its is a massing exercise that is 1500+ feet tall; the shape is synonymous with building a tower that is 1500 feet tall as cheaply as possible.

A testament to how some developers like Extell should absolutely have no bearing on "contributing" to the NYC skyline as they tastelessly besmirch it with visual trash like this that emanates out of it. As far as Smith and Gill goes, they seem to have really needed to money from this atrocious commission; not a shred of architectural dignity is reflected on this, with the exception that is tall; a towering showcase of indifference to aesthetics or embellishment of any kind.

I suppose you can split hairs by comparing it with 432 Park, but they are both different variations of the same exercise, built it tall and cheap, even if its ugly.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chicago103 (Post 9417766)
What observation deck levels are you referring to?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crawford (Post 9417781)
This is like a toddler-level understanding of architecture, design and real estate.

Glass towers aren't "cheaper" than masonry. You may not like the aesthetics, but developers don't go with glass bc they want to save money. Their glass/masonry decisionmaking is based on their perception of target market preferences, not whether they can get a deal on masonry at Home Depot or something. Geez.

And 432 Park and CPT are among the most expensive residential towers ever erected, anywhere on the planet. They're the antithesis of "cheap". Quality glass is incredibly expensive, generally more expensive than masonry, and labor costs are extremely high.

Yeah cuz when people are looking at a NYC supertall skyscraper they are assessing the price and quality of the windows and masonry.... please.

Fact of the matter is that regardless of what materials were overpaid for to sheath these 2 towers (432 Park and this CPT) they are dismal aesthetically from a form standpoint. The only form they project is to fill space as cheaply as possible. Cheaply being with rectilinear materials that are easy to manufacture; CPT doesn't even have any decent symmetrical setbacks. Just rectilinear glass that, notches and culminates in a flatline.

You folks (Chicago103, Crawford) come off as indignant project managers; if you were involved in the planning and costing of this tower (CPT) and paid $3 Billion dollars to build this atrocious construct, which is even more expensive than 1 WTC/Freedom Tower (even adjusted for inflation), you ought to reconsider your procurement practices as you have been fleeced into blatant overpayment.

UrbanImpact Oct 27, 2021 4:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TREPYE (Post 9435197)
Yeah cuz when people are looking at a NYC supertall skyscraper they are assessing the price and quality of the windows and masonry.... please.

Fact of the matter is that regardless of what materials were overpaid for to sheath these 2 towers (432 Park and this CPT) they are dismal aesthetically from a form standpoint. The only form they project is to fill space as cheaply as possible. Cheaply being with rectilinear materials that are easy to manufacture; CPT doesn't even have any decent symmetrical setbacks. Just rectilinear glass that, notches and culminates in a flatline.

You folks (Chicago103, Crawford) come off as indignant project managers; if you were involved in the planning and costing of this tower (CPT) and paid $3 Billion dollars to build this atrocious construct, which is even more expensive than 1 WTC/Freedom Tower (even adjusted for inflation), you ought to reconsider your procurement practices as you have been fleeced into blatant overpayment.

Opinions are funny :yes:

gttx Oct 27, 2021 5:09 PM

We get it, you don't like modernist boxes. Maybe you shouldn't buy a unit in this building.

MAC123 Oct 27, 2021 5:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TREPYE (Post 9435197)
Yeah cuz when people are looking at a NYC supertall skyscraper they are assessing the price and quality of the windows and masonry.... please.

Fact of the matter is that regardless of what materials were overpaid for to sheath these 2 towers (432 Park and this CPT) they are dismal aesthetically from a form standpoint. The only form they project is to fill space as cheaply as possible. Cheaply being with rectilinear materials that are easy to manufacture; CPT doesn't even have any decent symmetrical setbacks. Just rectilinear glass that, notches and culminates in a flatline.

You folks (Chicago103, Crawford) come off as indignant project managers; if you were involved in the planning and costing of this tower (CPT) and paid $3 Billion dollars to build this atrocious construct, which is even more expensive than 1 WTC/Freedom Tower (even adjusted for inflation), you ought to reconsider your procurement practices as you have been fleeced into blatant overpayment.

"Yeah cuz when people are looking at a NYC supertall skyscraper they are assessing the price and quality of the windows and masonry.... please"
No, the general public looks up, admires the height and then moves on. Unless the building is especially disgusting the general public doesn't care what they look like, and neither CPT or 432 are especially disgusting (though 432 isn't eyecandy either)

"Fact of the matter is that regardless of what materials were overpaid for to sheath these 2 towers (432 Park and this CPT) they are dismal aesthetically from a form standpoint. The only form they project is to fill space as cheaply as possible" 1) You starting off by saying "fact" doesn't make what you say a fact, it's still an opinion 2) First off, neither of these buildings is cheap. 3) Yes of course they overpaid for the materials because you don't like them. 4) Uhh, duh. All buildings have the goal to fill the space as cheaply as possible unless they're just a project like the Burj Khalifa. But once again neither of these buildings was cheap or value engineered. (besides the actual building of 432 which apparently wasn't done right).

"Cheaply being with rectilinear materials that are easy to manufacture; CPT doesn't even have any decent symmetrical setbacks. Just rectilinear glass that, notches and culminates in a flatline"
1) Again you calling them cheap doesn't make them cheap. 2) The word cheap isn't a synonym for bad. 3) And? Why do symmetrical setbacks matter? 4) Yep, that is the ending to that building. Congrats.

"You folks (Chicago103, Crawford) come off as indignant project managers; if you were involved in the planning and costing of this tower (CPT) and paid $3 Billion dollars to build this atrocious construct, which is even more expensive than 1 WTC/Freedom Tower (even adjusted for inflation), you ought to reconsider your procurement practices as you have been fleeced into blatant overpayment" 1) If you were involved in the planning and costing of this tower, you'd go bankrupt because you have no idea what you're talking about.

CPT is not some marvel and I'd say is outclassed in style by the closeby Steinway tower, but it's also not some eyesore, it looks perfectly fine.

mrnyc Oct 27, 2021 5:52 PM

^ exactly. it looks great actually. i like the cantilevering and you can see the quality up close.

i dont like the abrupt flat top as much as any h8r, but the crown, such as it is, resolved really well with the classier than i expected styling and lighting.

jbermingham123 Oct 27, 2021 6:02 PM

I've grown to love 432. It looks like a plain modernist POS at first, but the subtle beauty becomes obvious if you try to picture this building anywhere outside of Manhattan.

It fits NYC and only NYC

NYguy Oct 29, 2021 2:17 AM

Daniel Krieger Photography


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eXodius Oct 29, 2021 4:46 AM

Looks like it was taken from the same angle as the sightseeing tour I was on :D

http://i.imgur.com/k1WhYOIl.jpg

I posted others here:

https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=248852

chris08876 Oct 30, 2021 2:22 AM

https://newyorkyimby.com/wp-content/...unnamed-10.jpg
Credit: NYY

NYguy Oct 30, 2021 11:21 PM

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N830MH Nov 6, 2021 1:11 AM

It is complete? When they open it up?

NYguy Nov 6, 2021 2:20 AM

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Originally Posted by N830MH (Post 9443785)
It is complete? When they open it up?

It's been open.

Drcastro Nov 6, 2021 2:49 AM

Usually, buildings like these tend to “open” before they’re “complete”.

NYguy Nov 9, 2021 2:04 AM

NOVEMBER 4, 2021



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eXodius Nov 9, 2021 2:38 AM

I couldn't tell when I was out there a few weeks ago, but are the LEDs only fully visible at certain angles? Or are the south-facing lights just not fully lit? This just makes me more excited for Steinway and having a whole new Billionaire's Row at night! :notacrook:

MAC123 Nov 9, 2021 3:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eXodius (Post 9445698)
I couldn't tell when I was out there a few weeks ago, but are the LEDs only fully visible at certain angles? Or are the south-facing lights just not fully lit? This just makes me more excited for Steinway and having a whole new Billionaire's Row at night! :notacrook:

Pretty sure the south facing lights aren't lit. No idea when they're going to be, but it should be soon.

NYguy Nov 9, 2021 3:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eXodius (Post 9445698)
I couldn't tell when I was out there a few weeks ago, but are the LEDs only fully visible at certain angles? Or are the south-facing lights just not fully lit? This just makes me more excited for Steinway and having a whole new Billionaire's Row at night! :notacrook:


Southside isn't lit yet.



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NYguy Nov 10, 2021 2:58 AM

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NYguy Nov 12, 2021 4:08 AM

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NYguy Nov 15, 2021 1:31 AM

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NYguy Nov 15, 2021 8:22 PM

Good news for Barnett…


https://www.mansionglobal.com/amp/ar...ek-01636999105

Manhattan Luxury-Home Market Inked a Half-Billion in Deals Last Week
It was the best week of the year for homes asking $4 million or more in terms of total volume and number of sales



BY LIZ LUCKING
NOVEMBER 15, 2021


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Last week was the most prosperous seven-day stretch of the year for Manhattan’s high-end home market, according to Olshan Realty’s weekly market roundup on Monday.

There were a whopping 60 contracts signed on homes asking $4 million or more in the New York City borough during the week ending Sunday, the most this year.

… Collectively, those deals were worth more than a half-billion dollars—roughly $553.9 million—eclipsing this year’s previous high of $483.6 million, set in October, and marking the sector’s strongest performance since the end of 2013.

“In the last six weeks, the luxury market has shifted into high gear,” wrote Donna Olshan, author of the report and president of Olshan Realty.

Though condos remained the most popular home type, accounting for 65% of deals, the 16 co-ops that found buyers was the most the report has recorded in a single week since 2010, when “we started breaking down contracts between co-ops, condos and townhouses,” Ms. Olshan said.
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The pricest contract signed last week was for a four-bedroom spread at the Robert A.M. Stern-designed 15 Central Park West, which came with an asking price of $35 million. Spanning 4,565 square feet, the apartment has views of Central Park from the living room, library and main bedroom.

The second-most expensive deal made was on the penthouse at 1010 Park Ave. on the Upper East Side, asking $34.9 million. The 6,745-square-foot duplex has four bedrooms and a 479-square-foot terrace.

JMKeynes Nov 15, 2021 10:06 PM

Hopefully, this will prompt him to build a 1,400' hotel/condo at 46th and 5th.

NYguy Nov 16, 2021 1:57 AM

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chris08876 Nov 17, 2021 4:20 AM

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NYguy Nov 23, 2021 3:30 AM

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