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plinko May 24, 2011 9:03 AM

One of you guys has to go photograph this:

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&sour...00871&t=h&z=21

WTF?

Don B. May 24, 2011 12:11 PM

Looks like the front end to an aircraft. That's very close to me, I may be able to photograph it.

--don

Vicelord John May 24, 2011 3:38 PM

I now know of three of those. There is one just off the 17th green of the Links course at Biltmore that would be easier to photograph and there is one at 32nd street and Air Lane. Im not sure why the one is at Air Lane but the one you posted and the one at Biltmore both appear to be in backyards and used as children's playgrounds.

Edit: I wen't on bing maps to take advantage of their "bird's eye view" and the cockpit isn't there. Now the question is which one is older, Google or Bing?

http://www.bing.com/maps/?v=2&cp=pkw...=b&form=LMLTCC

Here are the other two:

Apparently Google is older on this one as the bing map shows this lot completely graded and ready to build with the airplane gone, poor kids!
http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=3...01526&t=h&z=20

whoops, the other doesn't show up on any maps!

DrumCorpsAlum May 25, 2011 6:22 PM

I "live" in South Carolina, but only go back home for about a day a month. I'm a flight attendant based here, and stay in a crashpad when I'm not flying.

SunDevil May 25, 2011 11:42 PM

cool, welcome to the forum!

Vicelord John May 25, 2011 11:58 PM

I know a few others have talked about cycling in the past, well I rode up south mountain the other day all the way up to the TV towers. Holy shit! That was more work than I expected.

jefe May 26, 2011 3:13 AM

The one off of Airlane is is used by the Airport Fire Dept. for training.

HooverDam May 27, 2011 6:51 PM

Check out this cool thing Cleveland is doing:

http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2011...iative_ki.html

They're trying to attract 100K new people to Cleveland over the next 10 years, especially those from foreign lands. Its early in the idea stages but I like that they're thinking big. In a lot of ways I think Phoenix needs to learn from rust belt Cities like Detroit and Cleveland that are having to get creative and think outside the box to redefine themselves. Phoenix certainly needs to redefine
itself as it continues to grow up.

I would hope our next Mayor would do something similar to this. While Arizona has certainly taken a beating reputation wise in the immigration area maybe there's ways to make Phoenix stand out as a beacon amidst that muck. I'd love an influx of 100K new immigrants to PHX over 10 years, especially if they were all to move between the I-17, SR51, Sunnyslope Mountain and the Riverbed. That would do wonders for our Central city, making it a more diverse and interesting place.

PHX31 May 27, 2011 7:26 PM

/\Not sure how this would work... you get 100,000 people to come here and do what? Seems like you need to focus on attracting companies and jobs and diversify your economy first, then if need be, try to attract a bunch of immigrants that could fill various positions.

We don't need a ton of extra people (potentially unemployed) using public services (roads, emergency rooms, etc. etc.) that can't contribute. If there were jobs for everyone first, then the services would be able to be kept up with the influx of people.

HooverDam May 27, 2011 7:36 PM

^ Oh I agree and like I said Cleveland's program is in the super early stages, so I'm not sure how it'll all work out. I'd just like to see Phoenix continue to grow in a more diverse way so its not just all either white folks or Mexicans, thats a bit boring culturally. In the last census Asian growth in AZ was way up, and thats a good thing, though they're still only a small sliver of the population.

When I lived in StL for college they had a big Bosnian population that was displaced there during the wars in their homeland in the 90's. Most of them lived in one area and there were ton of great Bosnian eateries, shops, etc (I highly recommend Bosnian food if you ever get the chance) it was sort of a "Little Sarajevo." Phoenix did end up with quite a few of the "Lost Boy" refugee's from the Sudan but sadly they're so impoverished and completely unaware of modernity that its not like they'll come here, settle into a neighborhood and begin opening their own business and restaurants.

PhxDowntowner May 29, 2011 7:34 PM

Critical Mass
 
I did my first Critical Mass this past Friday. It was really fun. Any of y'all participate in that?

Vicelord John May 29, 2011 7:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhxDowntowner (Post 5296531)
I did my first Critical Mass this past Friday. It was really fun. Any of y'all participate in that?

what is that?

PhxDowntowner May 29, 2011 8:22 PM

It's actually a worldwide event that started in SF back in '92:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_Mass

But here's the fb page specifically for the Phoenix ride:
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Criti...323217?sk=info

There were almost 100 riders there this month :)

exit2lef May 30, 2011 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhxDowntowner (Post 5296531)
I did my first Critical Mass this past Friday. It was really fun. Any of y'all participate in that?

I participated accidentally a few months ago when a bicyclist riding in Critical Mass struck me as I was walking in Midtown, fortunately with no injury to either of us.

Vicelord John May 30, 2011 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhxDowntowner (Post 5296568)
It's actually a worldwide event that started in SF back in '92:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_Mass

But here's the fb page specifically for the Phoenix ride:
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Criti...323217?sk=info

There were almost 100 riders there this month :)

Interesting that I've never heard of this. I'm assuming with that many riders, they would split into groups of varying speeds? If so, I'd be easily convinced to go to one.

I've been on a couple of these "raise awareness" rides in the past few years and they moved at snails paces, though they were small enough groups that there was only one group. I want to say the pace was like 12/14mph.

PhxDowntowner May 30, 2011 4:12 AM

It's all one group. Moving about as one massive blob is part of the point. I found it fast enough b/c i'm a casual rider. But to appease some of the ppl that want to go faster, they're made "blockers" (or "corkers" as described in the Wiki). They basically ride at the front then block lighted intersections so the entire group can cycle through as a contiguous blob. This obviously puts them at the end of the group, so they then sprint back up to the front to block the next intersection.

SunDevil May 30, 2011 7:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhxDowntowner (Post 5296873)
It's all one group. Moving about as one massive blob is part of the point. I found it fast enough b/c i'm a casual rider. But to appease some of the ppl that want to go faster, they're made "blockers" (or "corkers" as described in the Wiki). They basically ride at the front then block lighted intersections so the entire group can cycle through as a contiguous blob. This obviously puts them at the end of the group, so they then sprint back up to the front to block the next intersection.

So, they try to raise awareness and get people to leave their cars and start biking by pissing off the people they are trying to reach out to, drivers?

Vicelord John May 31, 2011 1:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhxDowntowner (Post 5296873)
It's all one group. Moving about as one massive blob is part of the point. I found it fast enough b/c i'm a casual rider. But to appease some of the ppl that want to go faster, they're made "blockers" (or "corkers" as described in the Wiki). They basically ride at the front then block lighted intersections so the entire group can cycle through as a contiguous blob. This obviously puts them at the end of the group, so they then sprint back up to the front to block the next intersection.

I have no interest in stopping, so it's probably not the ride for me.

On that note I have to agree with sun devil about the irony of blocking an intersection. If some fuck tried to do that to me when I am driving my car, they would end up with a broken face.

PhxDowntowner May 31, 2011 3:21 AM

you guys must always be rushing to the hospital with birthing women in your backseat or something...

Phxguy May 31, 2011 5:43 AM

Well I'm off to Germany. Possibly post pictures later.


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