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^^Ah......Thanks, I thought it was too soon to have an entire concept complete with renderings of this. Glad you pointed that out! :D
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Creating an Entertainment District - maybe good
Using Cordish to implement it - maybe not so good The Rose Garden and convention center could provide customers for the district, and an analysis of what sports fans (and their families) and conventioneers want in their entertainment would be appropriate before making major decisions for the project. Intuition tells me that these demographics won't mind the more commercial/corporate/chain/mainstream types of entertainment, and we shouldn't ignore or criticize that. This seems like the kind of target market that the Cordish approach might lend itself to. But these aren't the types of entertainment that we readers of design and urban planning information on these websites here in Portland, as well as other locals in general, are typically fond of. We like our beer, coffee, and entertainment locally crafted, served with character and imagination, and commuted to without cars. For the 24-7 entertainment district to succeed it will have to take this more provincial (in a good way) perspective into account as well because games and conventions will only provide part of the district's customer base. It would seem that we have enough local talent (architecture and construction) and resources (urban planning) to design, manage, and integrate this project into the larger metro picture, instead of letting Cordish be the lead. At the least, like the sustainability center project, we should open this up to competition with other firms, partnerships, and philosophies. Cordish already has the Centennial Mills proposal to implement. We might be putting too many eggs in the Cordish basket by giving them the entertainment district too. And finally, beginning this project may be locally stimulative and be ready when the economy turns around. |
If anyone remembers the Cordish proposal for Centennial Mills... be afraid!
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Well it looks like we will find out the fate of the MC tomorrow.
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I hope this ball park gets designed so that it could easily flip to MLB status someday in the future. Maybe the Beavers could be moved somewhere else in the metro...like Lents! I'm not trying to be nasty to the Beavs, I just want MLB more.
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Err, what. LAB won, remember? At least Cordish's proposal, however, was heavily built out with pretty good mixed-use utilization of the site. I forget who their architect was, tho. Oh wait, they chose GBD and Design Collective, Inc. |
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City of Portland actually owns MC. So... I doubt its going to be torn down. I don't think our current City Council would let them, considering the hard bargaining they are doing to Paulson on the MLS deal. |
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Out of curiosity, what exactly do those who propose keeping the MC say we should do to create a 24/7 entertainment district?
What would you put there? I assume it wouldn't be a Hard Rock Cafe... what would it be? I've read through this thread and all I see is a lot of bitching with no constructive ideas. |
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We already have several funky, Portland style entertainment districts including Old Town. Making one out of thin air will age horribly, be 'anywhere-USA', and will not build on an existing environment. Nothing much has happened to the Rose Quarter since we razed the historic neighborhood there. Any mass 'entertainment district' will just be a focus on suburban/ tourist economies anyway further removing local money from local businesses. What should we do to the Rose Quarter? Perhaps reintroduce the old or new street grid, try to cap I-5, build a ballpark at the PPS site, leave MC alone for future reuse, and/or publicly build a new HSR station. All I know is Vulcan does not have the same Portland sensibilities as Hoyt Street, Williams & Dame, Gerdling Edlin, Beam, Randy Rapaport, etc... |
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