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Speaking of Bankers Hill, I was literally just admiring that building yesterday as I rode through the brand new protected bike lake system on 5th and 4th since it's now mostly open... and WOW. I used to live on 5th in that general area, and it was so easy to see the missed potential of the neighborhood. Now I feel like it's taken huge strides forward very quickly as 5th has taken on a road diet that makes it much safer for pedestrians and cyclists/scooters. The whole system removes the drag-strip nature of that stretch as cars are encouraged to move slower since there is a lot more restriction and visible crossing guidance. They've done a fantastic job, and now downtown feels much better connected to Bankers Hill and the park... not to mention it instantly feels like a much more vibrant and inviting neighborhood.

Finally we have a safe bike system that connects downtown to Hillcrest, but holy f**k is University one of the most insanely dangerous and incomplete bikeways.

I snapped a few pics while I was at the USS Midway museum yesterday. I don't know how to upload the photos though.

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Originally Posted by NoTrippin (Post 9527738)

You need to upload them to a host site like flickr or imgur, then copy the URL and paste it here

^ Links still aren't working.

Those work, very nice pics! Can't wait to see that block fully built.

Over the weekend I went to a rooftop restaurant (Seneca, 19th floor of the InterContinental Hotel, very nice btw), and it had a great view of downtown and the waterfront, as well as the RaDD/IQHQ/Manchester Gateway project site. I took a few shots for posterity:

Looking south toward the RaDD/Manchester hotel construction:

https://i.imgur.com/IoHGZGl.jpg?1

Looking east down Broadway:

https://i.imgur.com/vbXDxXz.jpg?1

Looking north toward the Grande towers/Springhill Suites:

https://i.imgur.com/3AK1A5N.jpg?1

Really nice pics! Thanks guys for posting them!

Great shots! That lot with the Office Depot has to be the next target for redevelopment in that area of downtown.

SANDAG wants to build a Blue Line rush hour Express from San Ysidro to 12th Imperial by triple tracking the line.

I've a better idea. Speed up the Blue Line through Downtown. That would benefit everyone riding the Blue Line, not just people traveling between San Ysidro to Downtown. Outside of Downtown, the Blue Line is fast. It's Downtown where the Blue Line is very slow.

Ideally, we should build a Downtown tunnel for the Blue Line. But money is limited. So build a track connection between the Blue and Green Lines at 12th and Imperial. Through downtown, have the Blue Line share tracks with the current Green Line. The Blue Line will run nonstop (express) between 12th/Imperial and Santa Fe. The Green Line will continue to operate local, stopping at Convention Center, Seaport Village, and Gaslamp. To make transfers easy, increase all trolley frequencies from 15 min to 7.5 min.

The Blue Line will no longer serve City College. But if we increase Orange Line frequencies from 15 min. to 7.5 min. and give trolleys full signal priority the transfer from Blue to Orange Line will be pretty painless.

Between SDSU Mission Valley and Riverwalk, Mission Valley is building $7 billion in TOD. The community plan calls for up to 50,000 new residents by 2050. University City still has tons of parking craters that UCSD will develop aggressively. It is therefore crucial that Mid Coast and Green Line frequencies be upgraded from 15 to 7.5 minute frequencies.

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Originally Posted by Streamliner (Post 9536511)

Sweet shots!

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Originally Posted by colemonkee (Post 9537168)

Great shots! That lot with the Office Depot has to be the next target for redevelopment in that area of downtown.

100%... That parcel is already owned by Bosa Development. My assumption is they're just waiting for the Office Depot lease to run out to redevelop it. Will make a big difference in the skyline.

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Originally Posted by Andy-4-SD (Post 9537979)

100%... That parcel is already owned by Bosa Development. My assumption is they're just waiting for the Office Depot lease to run out to redevelop it. Will make a big difference in the skyline.

Any density is better than no density, but I really wish Downtown San Diego built even more offices than it's building now and became a far bigger employment center. In US metro areas, the CBD share of metro area employment as a % is even more instrumental to boosting transit usage than overall population density is.

Also, 1 million sq ft of office space will hold much more people than 1 mil sq ft residential space, and therefore generate more transit trips.

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Originally Posted by IrvineNative (Post 9538060)

With the Horton Plaza redo and the RaDD development, we should have a huge boost in downtown office space. Both of those developments appear to be further south and west of where most of the office core is today too, so hopefully that spurs more development in the coming years. I really hope these are successful

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Originally Posted by Streamliner (Post 9538938)

Also Tailgate Park, but seems like the Padres are back to square one with that project as it's past the 1/31 deadline for negotiations with the city and no news yet.

Just hoping Tailgate Park's redesign includes at least as much office space as the previous design and doesn't get turned into more high rise condos filled with teleworkers and rich retirees who don't generate much transit trips.

The lots at Broadway and Park, 13th where the Salvation Army was bought by Kilroy have been cleared

https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/c...g?format=1000w

Speaking of office space, the U-T has an article today about the new tower replacing the old county courthouse. It will be a mixed use of office and commercial:

Downtown San Diego’s next big skyscraper is on the rise at former county courthouse site
BY JENNIFER VAN GROVE
Feb 17, 2022
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...ourthouse-site

https://archive.is/Sw7xM/a44d9ab69cd...8d3b3f398.webp

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Downtown San Diego’s skyline will soon include West, a 37-story luxury apartment and office complex that is being erected in place of the former county courthouse at 1011 Union Street.

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When completed in early 2024, the $400 million project previously known as Courthouse Commons will feature dining and retail options on the ground floor, seven stories of tech-friendly office space, and a ninth-floor amenity deck offering city and ocean views. The higher floors will be home to 431 apartments, including a chunk that will be rent restricted.

Holland has hired commercial brokerage Jones Lang LaSalle to market the tower’s 270,000 square feet of office space, which is spread across open and expansive floors, each offering outside access.

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Bounded by Broadway, Union, Front and C street, West takes up one of three blocks that Holland and NASH acquired from the county in June 2019 after winning a bid to redevelop the former San Diego County Courthouse property.
The county traded 3.9 acres of land to the developers in exchange for a $5 million upfront payment, and an underground tunnel that connects the San Diego Central Courthouse to the County Central Jail. The tunnel project is expected to be completed in a few months at a cost of $80 million, Schertzer said. Holland must also pay for the abatement and demolition of the former courthouse structures, per the terms of the deal. That work is anticipated to cost as much as $40 million when finished, the developer said.

West, which will stand 445 feet tall, will make its presence known in the coming months as construction workers continue to pour new floors — currently at a rate of one floor every two weeks. Holland, which is also the general contractor for the project, anticipates topping off the contemporary building designed by Carrier Johnson + CULTURE in April of next year. The project’s signature, ground-level feature — concrete V-shaped columns that prop up the cantilevered portion of the building — will also soon be visible, the developer said.

“It’s what San Diego deserves architecturally,” said Todd Majcher, an executive with Los Angeles-based developer Lowe. Lowe, a project consultant, is overseeing West’s commercial components. “While other cities around the West are moving forward with really great, experiential architecture — Vancouver, Seattle, San Francisco, Los Angeles — San Diego, particularly in the downtown market, has been a little slower. Now that we’re seeing this revitalization of downtown, having this inspiring architectural tower sets the stage for a new skyline.

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Downtown is currently home to 12.7 million square feet of office space, although nearly 22 percent of all inventory is vacant, according to the most recent industry data from JLL’s research arm. With another 1.6 million square feet of downtown office space under construction, West will compete head-to-head for office tenants in a market that’s soon to be overflowing with space. Located alongside downtown’s C Street, West offers direct trolley access — although its proximity to a troubled transit corridor could also be seen as a deterrent.

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"Downtown is currently home to 12.7 million square feet of office space, although nearly 22 percent of all inventory is vacant, according to the most recent industry data from JLL’s research arm. With another 1.6 million square feet of downtown office space under construction, West will compete head-to-head for office tenants in a market that’s soon to be overflowing with space. Located alongside downtown’s C Street, West offers direct trolley access — although its proximity to a troubled transit corridor could also be seen as a deterrent."

Seems like a good development, but I had no idea Downtown San Diego's commercial vacancy rate was that high. Great to see builders adding to the commercial stock even with the high vacancy, but confused by the last sentence.

What about the trolley access / transit corridor makes it "troubled"?

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