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NEW YORK | Sven (29-37 41st Ave) | 751 FT | 63 FLOORS
In at $8M, out at $46M — just three years later
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PMG files plans for 70-story Long Island City tower
Mixed-use building will hold more than 900 units March 11, 2015 11:30AM By Rich Bockmann Quote:
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Mods, can you change title to 70 floors and 772 ft.?
That's now at least three Queens towers planned above 700 ft. LIC is developing a real skyline, and from afar is basically merging with the Midtown East skyline. For this tower, it would be nice to get a crown and see this pushed above 800 ft. Also, this tower won't just be tall, it will be huge. 1.1 million square feet of space per the building permits. At nearly 800 ft. tall, and over a million square feet of floor area, you are talking a tower that will be noticed. |
70 story LIC tower - Yeah!
Designed by SLCE - Ugh! |
Wow this a nice suprise. From 30 floors to 70. Funny thing is I predicted something like this yesterday when we had a height reduction on 75 Nassau Street.
:haha: NEW YORK | 29-37 41st Street | 772 FT | 70 FLOORS |
It seems it's 41st Avenue, not 41st Street
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It's all happening so fast. Now even LIC is getting its first ~800 footer, incredible. :cheers:
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A little bit bigger image
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I was standing on the Ditmars bound platform at 36 Ave yesterday afternoon heading home from Kauffman studios and l noticed the nice cluster of skyscrapers forming around "downtown" LIC / Queens Plaza.
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Permit and location for potential new tallest of Queens (height may be higher than shown)...
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Proposed LIC tower 4 times bigger than it should be
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So it's not really a problem is it then?
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Note that when they say "height", they actually mean size, an important distinction. You can see the sites below... http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/159414713/original.jpg But in any case, the developers could always seek an increase through the city's approval process like every other developer that needs it. And lets not forget, with all of this development knocking on the door to Sunnyside Yards, there's still the planning of what will be built there. |
I would love to see Queens pick up a few more tall ones. Five separate skylines (Midtown, downtown, Jersey City, Brooklyn and Queens) would be pretty cool.
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This would be the first building over 700 ft in Queens, or even the other boroughs if it tops out before the planned Brooklyn towers. But with everything going on in LIC, it wouldn't surprise me to see more.
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this is a good placement spot for something borough record tall & large like that.
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A little bit more details
Developers seek $56M worth of MTA air rights and land JOE ANUTA MARCH 20, 2015 Quote:
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Looking forward to this fast moving development. http://www.timesledger.com/stories/2...5_03_20_q.html Clock Tower in danger as owner plans huge tower next door http://www.timesledger.com/assets/ph..._03_20_q_z.jpg By Bill Parry March 20, 2015 Quote:
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Landmarks Preservation Commission Decides to Calendar the LIC Clock Tower!
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It would definitely be a travesty if that old gem would be demolished to make way for a glassy box filled with affordable housing or luxury apartments. LIC isn't exactly the most architecturally appealing place. I sometimes wonder about preservationists. Do they forget about certain buildings until they hear about development news around them and then think, "oh shit"?
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Well, PMG is doing wonders with another classic. I wouldn't jump into that river of "despair" so often associated, until we know exactly what's being planned. Or just go into hysterics on schedule as planned.
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queens is blowing up!
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I love it when things move quickly...
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.2162400 MTA will sell $56M Long Island City property to developer eyeing new 77-story residential tower http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopo...a26n-1-web.jpg BY KATHERINE CLARKE , PETE DONOHUE March 25, 2015 Quote:
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Clock Tower closer to landmark status http://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townn...size=760%2C506 March 26, 2015 by Cristina Schreil Quote:
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An article in the Times today has a crude rendering of the bldg. Seeing it against the clock tower is eye-popping.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/31/ny...ies-below&_r=1 New Queens Plaza Skyscraper Gets Help From Historic Clock Tower Next Door MARCH 30, 2015 By MATT A.V. CHABAN The hands have not moved in decades, and the lights behind them went dark a year ago. But the gargoyles still glower atop the Long Island City clock tower, alongside its castellated turret, copper windows and granite shields. Fourteen stories is nothing in today’s booming neighborhood, but until 1990, the brown-brick structure at 29-27 Queens Plaza North was the tallest building in Queens. Even still, it transfixes residents of this low-slung borough. “Since I was a boy, I’ve probably passed by that building thousands of times in my life, like so many people in Queens,” said Jimmy Van Bramer, the local city councilman. “It was a landmark from the very beginning.” It was hard to miss, standing virtually alone at the mouth of the Queensboro Bridge and the bend in the elevated Flushing and Astoria subway lines. Even as it was hemmed in by larger buildings, the clock tower still stood out. Now it will be truly overshadowed. A 915-foot skyscraper — the city’s tallest outside Manhattan — is about to sprout on its doorstep. Yet the connection is no coincidence: The clock tower is helping make this 77-story glassy giant possible. A rendering of the proposed apartment building behind the Long Island City clock tower. Credit SLCE Architects, via The Metropolitan Transportation Authority The new 930-unit apartment building, designed by SLCE Architects and described as “Manhattan caliber” by its developers, is relying on land and air rights from the clock tower, as well as another, unexpected source: the Metropolitan Transportation Authority — this despite the reservations of some of its board members. When a consortium of developers bought the clock tower and two neighboring plots in November, they hit upon a novel idea to create their Queens colossus. With tight budgets and a mandate to capitalize on its real estate holdings, the transportation authority was happy to oblige. Last week, the authority’s board approved the transfer of approximately 477,000 square feet of air rights to the developers for just under $56 million. The rights came from an adjacent lot where the agency has dug a hole nearly as deep as the clock tower is tall. Through it runs a tunnel that will bring the Long Island Rail Road into Grand Central Terminal. “The clock tower once marked Queens as a borough on the rise, and with our new project, we want to give the building the prominence it deserves,” the developers, Property Markets Group and the Hakim Organization, said in a statement. These were indeed the aspirations driving the Bank of Manhattan when it opened the building 88 years ago. With the arrival of the bridge in 1909 and the expansion of the subways across the East River a decade later, the blocks around Queens Plaza became ripe for development. It became a hub of business, with concrete factories and limestone banks radiating out from the plaza. Most of them are now gone, having been replaced with soaring glass spires. Local preservationists had worried time was up for the historic building, but the city’s Landmarks Preservation Commission stepped in. Last week, the commission began a public review of a proposal to make the clock tower an official landmark, which would protect it from destruction but still allow construction around it. The proposal, which is supported by the developers and Councilman Van Bramer, is likely to be approved. Continue reading the main storyContinue reading the main storyContinue reading the main story The developers plan to keep it as an office building for tech firms, and have also promised to pay for a park of up to 1.25 acres on the land controlled by the transportation authority. Yet some at the authority thought the developers should have been providing public benefits within their new tower: affordable housing. The Long Island City clock tower, which has loomed over Queens Plaza since 1927, was the tallest building in Queens until 1990. Credit Uli Seit for The New York Times The developers are in a race to begin construction by summer so they can qualify for tax breaks without having to include affordable housing. If state lawmakers continue the 421a tax-break program beyond June, builders and housing advocates expect projects within high-demand neighborhoods like Long Island City will be exempted unless affordable units are included. This put the transportation authority board in the unusual position of wrestling with housing policy. “Myopia is no excuse,” Charles G. Moerdler, a Manhattan lawyer and appointee of the governor to the board, said at a board meeting last week. “Our fiduciary responsibility is to all people of the state, and that includes those who support our governor’s program to provide affordable housing so that New York State remains a state fit for people and fit for living.” Another worry was that the authority might be worsening its position, rather than strengthening it. “I think we have to be concerned with the crowded subway lines and how all these people are going to be able to get on the subway,” Ira R. Greenberg, head of the Long Island Rail Road Commuters Council, said before the vote. The agency had actually wrestled with this very issue during the negotiations. The developers had initially wanted to buy 750,000 square feet, so they could build a tower higher than 90 stories. The challenge for the authority is that if the board insists on affordable housing, most developers will pay less for the air rights, hurting the authority’s bottom line. Some suburban board members were especially frustrated by what they saw as hypocrisy, since two projects outside the city on agency property were recently obligated to include affordable housing. Regardless, most of the board, including the chairman and chief executive, Thomas F. Prendergast, felt their responsibility was to riders, not residents, and they approved the air rights sale. Mr. Prendergast did agree, however, to form a committee to explore the issue so the agency would not have to continue addressing affordable housing on a project-by-project basis. “There are many who want to tag onto our ship and have us carry their mantra forward,” Mr. Prendergast said at the board meeting last week. “But when we have an issue with respect to finances, they’re not there with us.” While Councilman Van Bramer and many in Long Island City wish the transportation authority had decided differently, they have now turned their focus to the appropriate marriage of the bank building and its 915-foot neighbor. “The new tallest building will be next door to the old tallest building,” said Christian Emanuel, a recent college graduate who grew up going to his father’s office in the clock tower building and led the landmarking campaign. “They couldn’t be more different, but they will still go together. That’s Queens. We’re diversity.” |
That's wonderful news.
A classic win-win: the clock tower stays and keeps the area balanced from being too glassy and characterless while at the same time, we get a tall new tower. |
Great news! Another 900 footer for the city. Makes up for the massive height cut at 420 Albee Square ...
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915'! And to think they actually wanted to go higher!
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I like the massing, and of course the height. And the clock tower crowd can relax a bit.
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Seems like the trend where one day we get a big cut, but another tower grows incredibly in size and height. Great News! :cheers:
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The inclusion of the clock tower will make for some wonderful photography folks!
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I really love how they incorporate the old building. At 77 floors, it seems like this should easily be a supertall. Are there height limits here or is that a possibility?
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looks like the site is ready to go :)
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The race is in high gear on who can get the tallest outside Manhattan. Will it be JC, Queens, or Brooklyn...
Looks like DoBro will win. I'm just waiting for the Bronx to get into the skyscraper action. With rising land prices, and gentrification occuring full steam, only a matter of time. We just need the Bronx, and on the Jersey Side, Newark, and then we can say we have like 5 unique skylines growing all at once to complement that main NYC Manhattan Skyline. Region is turning into N.America's Guangdong in terms of the highrise/skyscraper nodes. Region is on track to eclipse 6700 + highrises/skyscrapers by the time this boom see's most of its proposals complete. By region, I'm talking about the metro. |
^ At this point, it seems it will be Brooklyn, but we have yet to see details on that. All three are seeing big leaps in height to the tallest.
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Jersey City has the only approved supertall outside of Manhattan. SHoP is working on a Brooklyn project, but who knows when we'll get the details? Anyway, back to the topic. It's great to hear about a height boost for this tower. LIC will no longer be a haphazard collection of highrises and Citigroup Building in a few years.
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I get the impression that Brooklyn and Queens will battle for tallest eventually. And there's another LIC tower to contend with, though how tall it will be is anybody's guess. http://blog.archpaper.com/wp-content...tower-site.jpg http://blog.archpaper.com/2015/03/to...her-high-rise/ |
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Now I'm kind of bummed knowing they wanted to go for over 90 floors, but the MTA would only give them the air rights for 77 floors.
Oh, well. 915 ft. is certainly a major tower, especially with that kind of bulk. It would have been amazing to have an 1,100-1,200 ft. tower, though. This tower will really extend the city's skyline east. It will be a huge game-changer for LIC, and probably means that Western Queens will eventually see supertalls. |
It's a game changer for sure. But there are development rights left over for another tower, so who knows.
Meanwhile, as development closes in, the push to develop Sunnyside Yards will get stronger. http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/159596935/original.jpg PMG, working with JDS, did a nice job of integrating the Steinway building with the new SHoP designed tower. It looks like the same thing happening here, although whether or not the clocktower is designated a landmark will impact just how much they can alter it. But you can see from the diagram it's almost enveloped by the new tower. http://www.pbase.com/nyguy/image/159595645/original.jpg |
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Newark wont be in that race.
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