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thenoflyzone Sep 1, 2022 8:59 PM

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Originally Posted by YYCguys (Post 9718496)
Light, bright, and so cute!

Did/will the old terminal get demo’d?

Which airlines fly there?

Only Air Creebec has scheduled passenger service. You can see one of their Dash-8s in the bottom pic.

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Originally Posted by Djeffery (Post 9719024)
Swoop just announced YXU-CUN this week, did they announce those other cities as well, by chance? I wonder if that Cancun website just mixed up the airline, maybe not realizing there are other airlines not named Air Canada here lol.

That's probably what happened. I doubt AC would be interested in serving YXU-CUN. AC mainline doesn't serve YXU, so they would need to reposition a plane there from YYZ to start the service, or add mainline service somewhere else and then use that plane for the CUN run (similar to what they are doing at YQB with Rouge). It all adds to the overall costs, and is probably not worth it for a market so close to YYZ.

Coldrsx Sep 2, 2022 12:47 AM

https://cdn.skyrisecities.com/forum/...06-png.424538/

'The entire development, covering 2,000 acres with 60 million square feet of e-commerce logistics and fulfillment centers at full build-out, has a price tag of $2.7 billion to $3.9 billion, Keehn said. Preliminary consultations and surveying are underway and the airport authority plans to start exploring design concepts and timelines in the coming months. Once roadway access is in place, site development can begin, with a goal of leasing lots to developers in two years. When an initial section will open for occupancy is yet to be determined, as is a date for final build-out.

Construction began in recent weeks on a new highway interchange, a piece of supporting infrastructure funded by the government of Alberta, to improve access to the airport.


EIA is enhancing the existing cargo zone even before the new development plan gets underway. Construction crews this month began pouring concrete for six additional widebody freighter positions, which will allow the facility to accommodate 11 widebody cargo jets at one time.

In addition to the expanded cargo apron, the CA$36 million project ($28 million), half funded by the federal government, includes a new connection to the runway, installation of a new hydrant fueling system dedicated for cargo aircraft and tripling of cold-storage space.

The completed hydrant system ties into two large Shell Aviation Fuel tanks, eliminating the constant procession of trucks from the fuel farm and making refueling faster, more efficient, cleaner and safer. "

https://www.freightwaves.com/news/ca...-us-e-commerce

J81 Sep 2, 2022 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Djeffery (Post 9719024)
Swoop just announced YXU-CUN this week, did they announce those other cities as well, by chance? I wonder if that Cancun website just mixed up the airline, maybe not realizing there are other airlines not named Air Canada here lol.

I thought the same thing lol

davidivivid Sep 2, 2022 12:05 PM

Rouyn-Noranda's new airport (sorry for the size of the pics... too lazy this morning):


https://scontent.fymy1-2.fna.fbcdn.n...Hg&oe=6316866D



https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...Tw&oe=6316D743


https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...Wg&oe=6317DC3C


https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...UA&oe=6317906B


https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...uw&oe=6316809F


https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...IQ&oe=63174FCF


https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...YQ&oe=63164759


https://scontent.fymy1-2.fna.fbcdn.n...CQ&oe=6317BCFE


https://www.facebook.com/villederouy...=page_internal

MonctonRad Sep 2, 2022 12:12 PM

Are all of the mid-northern Quebec airports this nice?

YYCguys Sep 2, 2022 6:06 PM

I really love that huge art installation! So dramatic and beautiful!

Dominion301 Sep 2, 2022 6:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YYCguys (Post 9718496)
Light, bright, and so cute!

Did/will the old terminal get demo’d?

Which airlines fly there?

Air Creebec

Zmonkey Sep 2, 2022 7:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MonctonRad (Post 9719565)
Are all of the mid-northern Quebec airports this nice?

Definitely not. This airport is probably also overkill for what is needed.
Its going to be a lot of hydro charters going back and forth, plus a bit of AC express to Montreal.

whatnext Sep 2, 2022 7:39 PM

Some interesting context re: delays etc at Air Canada from Business Insider:

I worked at Air Canada for over 7 years. Here's why this summer drove me to quit.
Hannah Towey Sep 1, 2022

-This summer's chaos drove an Air Canada ramp agent who's worked at the airline for years to quit.
-He described a workplace plagued by understaffing, poor management, and frustrated workers.
-Here's why he's decided to leave the tumultuous industry, as told by the reporter Hannah Towey.

If I could describe my seven years at Air Canada, it was like a pot of boiling water that was just getting hotter and hotter until it started to overflow. That's where we're at this summer.

I was a supervisor-level ramp agent. I oversaw the crew in charge of the weight balance of the aircraft, so making sure the aircraft can take off and the weight's not too heavy on one side — as well as doing the basic inspections around the aircraft and loading and offloading cargo and passenger baggage. I was also responsible for safety issues.

I think a lot of the frustration ramp agents are feeling comes down to when you come into work and see 10 to 15 flights stacked back-to-back. Then throughout the day, there are delays, maintenance issues, and crew shortages, so flights get moved around. It's just madness. The only thing you know is it's either gonna be a really rough day or it's gonna be a rough day — and you're lucky if it's just a rough day...

....It's not the fault of the employees, but many are not qualified, so oftentimes you're basically working the entire flight yourself. They don't know how to load an aircraft because they haven't been trained, so you essentially have one man or one woman loading an aircraft that carries 450 people alone.

We're slammed. Some days, we're out there for five to six hours with no breaks. A couple of weeks ago I worked a shift and didn't get a single break — no lunch or anything — for nine hours....


https://www.businessinsider.com/air-...7-years-2022-9

Coldrsx Sep 2, 2022 8:00 PM

A broken industry/system?

Poor training? retention? Renumeration?

All of the above?

casper Sep 2, 2022 8:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MonctonRad (Post 9719565)
Are all of the mid-northern Quebec airports this nice?

I was expected the building to be either in the "classic ATCO trailer" architecture style or a modified ATCO style where they add some cosmetics elements to make it look more permanent.

Those terminals are exceptionally nice and modern looking. I can't think of another small airport of that size that has anything like that.

In the 90s I use to take PemAir in out of Pembroke Airport (which is in Petawawa) fairly regularly and thought they had a nice terminal. Nothing like those Quebec airports.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ke_Airport.JPG Source: Wikipedia

casper Sep 2, 2022 8:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Coldrsx (Post 9720204)
A broken industry/system?

Poor training? retention? Renumeration?

All of the above?

Since I have started flying again after COVID I have found things are just slowed. It looks like the gate agents have a lot of new hires shadowing or being coached by more senior people. Both Air Canada and WestJet.

Not certain it is exclusive to the airlines. See the same thing happening in other industries. There just been a lot of people moving around between industries.

Djeffery Sep 2, 2022 9:46 PM

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Originally Posted by casper (Post 9720208)

In the 90s I use to take PemAir in out of Pembroke Airport (which is in Petawawa) fairly regularly and thought they had a nice terminal. Nothing like those Quebec airports.

I think PemAir was the only airline to regularly serve St Thomas Ontario. I want to say about 30 years ago, and not for a long time, and I can't even remember where they flew to. Terminal is a little less modern than Pembroke lol.

https://www.airport-data.com/images/...001/001133.jpg

whatnext Sep 4, 2022 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by casper (Post 9720216)
Since I have started flying again after COVID I have found things are just slowed. It looks like the gate agents have a lot of new hires shadowing or being coached by more senior people. Both Air Canada and WestJet.

Not certain it is exclusive to the airlines. See the same thing happening in other industries. There just been a lot of people moving around between industries.

I find it a bit concerning if newbies are responsible for stuff like weight and balance.:runaway:

casper Sep 5, 2022 3:41 AM

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Originally Posted by whatnext (Post 9721639)
I find it a bit concerning if newbies are responsible for stuff like weight and balance.:runaway:

Yes, that is concerning.

I would assume the software does the math, but still you want it loaded correctly and to match what is in the calculation.

Hali87 Sep 5, 2022 4:19 AM

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Originally Posted by davidivivid (Post 9719563)
Rouyn-Noranda's new airport

Very cool :tup:

Dominion301 Sep 6, 2022 12:56 PM

St. Thomas briefly had air service. Wow, never knew that. Probably was to YYZ as Pem Air had an interline agreement with Air Canada.

hollywoodcory Sep 8, 2022 5:36 AM

WS has quietly re-loaded YYC-AMS 3x weekly effective November 14.

Currently not showing on WS.com but is searchable on google flights/the GDS.

WS20 YYC 20:15 - 12:40+1 AMS 789 135
WS21 AMS 14:40 - 15:39 YYC 789 246

casper Sep 8, 2022 5:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dominion301 (Post 9722375)
St. Thomas briefly had air service. Wow, never knew that. Probably was to YYZ as Pem Air had an interline agreement with Air Canada.

Pem-Air partnered closely with Canadian Airlines. They were flying into Terminal 3 with Canadian handling the gate and checkin counter. When Canadian merged with Air Canada, Pem-Air switch to partnering primarily with American Airlines.

I think they did have an interline with Air Canada.

ninjakafi_81 Sep 8, 2022 7:33 AM

https://simpleflying.com/emirates-ai...ondary-cities/

I wonder how much more access Emirates will get in Canada.

Quote:

In particular, he emphasized Air Canada's advantage by using Emirates' significant presence in the Indian subcontinent. Rousseau added,

"India is a key market for us to access. Emirates allows us to access that market that will enhance our ability to bring people to Canada and Emirates will get a little more access to Canada. We will develop a codeshare in due course that will make the travel journey for our customers much more seamless."


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