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gramsjdg Jun 1, 2012 12:44 AM

That tapering section in the middle looks awful... I'm glad they didn't choose this one. :yuck:

JACKinBeantown Jun 1, 2012 12:58 AM

I like it. The only flaw is the x-bracing blocking the views of EVERY window. Looks cool on the outside but would be very annoying from the inside.

uaarkson Jun 1, 2012 1:29 AM


Originally Posted by Observer
Blind item: Which architecture firm displayed a mind-boggling model for a skyscraper that may well never be built, at least in this lovely form, on the corner of Broadway and 57th Street for Gary Barnett?

Now just what exactly does this mean?

NYguy Jun 1, 2012 3:07 AM


Originally Posted by uaarkson (Post 5719355)
Now just what exactly does this mean?

It means they aren't revealing the firm that designed that tower, while also pointing out that it's a design that won't be built as shown. Anybody's guess as to why it was displayed though - is somebody pushing Barnett's hand? Anyway, I woud have loved to see all of the proposals.

Duck From NY Jun 1, 2012 3:21 AM


Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 5718697)

Was this a proposal for South Street?

Eidolon Jun 1, 2012 3:33 AM


Originally Posted by Duck From NY (Post 5719432)
Was this a proposal for South Street?

South Street Seaport Redevelopment Actually Happening

Yes, for the sea port. Don't know if the tower is still a part of it because the article I posted is over a year old.

Duck From NY Jun 1, 2012 3:34 AM


Originally Posted by NYguy (Post 5718578)
One of the designs that didn't make it...

I would have been really satisfied with the design. I can't wait to be standing in Central Park, looking at the classic 59th street buildings being loomed over by these 1000+ trophy skyscrapers. The guy who designed the Birds Nest stadium in Beijing is the architect that was selected for this job. I've looked at his work, and the man can make a parking garage look awesome, but I didn't see that he had designed skyscrapers before. If he hasn't, then I hope his skill transitions well to the vertical.

Man oh man, this is exactly what Midtown needed. I remember picking up a friend (a former Chicago resident who had never been to NYC) from JFK and then driving him to an event we were both attending. Once we got on the BQE and headed North he was certainly impressed, and immediately admitted that Midtown was bigger and more grandiose than the loop, but he noted that all of the buildings seem to be around the same height (the plateau that is oft-mentioned here). I totally agreed with him, and have always been of the opinion that Midtown needed a few super-talls rising above the rest of the pack.

Eidolon Jun 1, 2012 3:46 AM


Originally Posted by Duck From NY (Post 5719441)
Midtown needed a few super-talls rising above the rest of the pack.

There will be no shortage of supertalls for midtown in the coming years, we may actually end up with so many 1,000 footers in that area that they will form another plateau, with a few standouts like this and 432 Park. Not that I'm complaining :cool:

sbarn Jun 1, 2012 4:13 AM

I'm not a huge fan of this design, but I like their trajectory. Seems like something iconic should rise on this site (or at least I hope).

jbermingham123 Jun 2, 2012 9:20 PM

Whatever they decide to build here I think it needs some kind of setback, curve, or spire close to the top... something interesting... so that its not another 432 park ave. Not that I have anything against 432, but one flat-topped super tall per street please.:tup:

Hudson11 Jun 2, 2012 9:25 PM

i just hope it's something that blends well with the central park skyline.
this looks like there's 1250ft of twisting steel jutting out of it

NYguy Jun 4, 2012 6:17 PM

JUNE 3, 2012

1Boston Jun 4, 2012 9:55 PM

To be honest, i really don't like that design. Like NYguy said, it reminds me of the old design of the freedom tower, or at least the top of the old design, which i thought was really ugly. I just hope the design that is picked doesn't have an all glass facade, since it seems like theres tons of those going up right now, but i'm sure if it is it will still be amazing.

gramsjdg Jun 4, 2012 10:42 PM

All I ask is that its bulkier than 432 Park and has a roof height taller than Sears... that's all. My needs are modest. ;)

NYguy Jun 23, 2012 8:15 PM


Originally Posted by gramsjdg (Post 5722891)
All I ask is that its bulkier than 432 Park and has a roof height taller than Sears... that's all. My needs are modest. ;)

It's possible that they may want to top 432 Park for the highest apartment in the City, but I don't think they would be looking at Sears (Willis). If it were in Manhattan, perhaps.

Eidolon Jun 26, 2012 10:00 PM

Nordstrom Rumored To Be In Talks For 225 West 57th Street
By Daniel Geiger


Sources say Nordstrom is in talks to anchor a development project that Gary Barnett would build at 225 West 57th Street.

Rumors have swirled for months that Mr. Barnett, one of the city’s most prolific and successful builders of residential and commercial real estate, is trying to arrange a transaction with the department store, which has been cruising around Manhattan for a site for years.

There was buzz that Mr. Barnett had also brought Nordstrom to One57, the soaring residential tower he’s already in the process of building nearby, but he floors there are too small to accommodate the sprawling footprint of a department store sources say.
Very exciting. :yes:

NYguy Jun 26, 2012 10:09 PM

Yeah, One57 was rumored to be the last location Nordstrom was looking at.

Nordstorm landing at 57th and Broadway

June 26, 2012


A big Seattle retail chain is coming to Manhattan — and it won’t be selling coffee. Nordstrom — the upscale department store which, along with Starbucks and Amazon, has risen beyond its Pacific Northwest roots to become a US retail titan — is finally near a deal to open a flagship store in Midtown, The Post has learned.

The family-run clothier plans to anchor a future skyscraper on West 57th Street between Broadway and Seventh Avenue that will be built by New York real-estate mogul Gary Barnett, according to sources close to the talks. “This is going to be a major store — they want to make a statement,” according to one insider briefed on the plans, adding that the shop is expected to occupy several stories in addition to the ground floor.

While the main storefront will stretch along the north side of West 57th, the developers are also angling for an entrance at 1780 Broadway, whose façade will likely be preserved as an historic landmark. The side that faces West 58th will likely be used for loading docks, as well as additional access and parking for offices and tenants of high-rise condos, sources said.

“This is going to make the West Side a true shopping mecca that’s competitive with the East Side,” said Faith Hope Consolo, chairman of retail leasing at Prudential Douglas Elliman. The Time Warner Center, two blocks to the north on Columbus Circle, has surprised real-estate insiders with its success as a retail destination, she noted.

Over the past decade, Nordstrom execs have scoured Manhattan’s shopping corridors for a suitable flagship site, ultimately ruling that most locations were either too small or too out of the way. Candidates have included the former Drake Hotel on Park Avenue and the Hudson Yards on the West Side. More recently, rumors have pegged 3 Columbus Circle, a building across the street from the parcel that’s slated for development, and even One 57, the 1,000-foot-high hotel complex that Barnett is building one block to the east.
That helps get this tower moving along sooner rather than later.

NYguy Jun 27, 2012 12:58 PM

Nordstrom Said to Sign Deal for Site in Manhattan

June 26, 2012


After spending the past two decades scouring Manhattan for the right location and the right deal, Nordstrom, the upscale department store, has finally found a home. The chain, based in Seattle, signed a binding agreement with Extell Development this week to open New York City’s first new full-scale department store in recent memory, a 7-story, 300,000-square-foot behemoth in the base of a planned skyscraper on the north side of 57th Street, east of Broadway, according to real estate executives who have been briefed on the deal.

The location on 57th Street is about 20 blocks north of Macy’s and well west of Saks Fifth Avenue and the luxury stores on Madison Avenue. But Nordstrom may be trying to capitalize on the success of the multilevel retailing at Time Warner Center in nearby Columbus Circle, where the sales volume at its shops reportedly runs to about $1,600 per square foot.

Brooke White, a spokeswoman for Nordstrom, declined to comment, as did Gary Barnett, chief executive of Extell Development. But the real estate executives, who spoke only on the condition of anonymity as they were not authorized to discuss it, said that Nordstrom planned to make an announcement about the store on Thursday with Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg.

Extell plans to erect a one-million-square-foot tower, with a hotel and apartments, on the site of what was once a Hard Rock Cafe. There is currently a supermarket on the parcel and a small store on the 58th Street edge of the property. About a block to the east of the site, Extell is building One 57th Street, a 90-story residential tower and hotel.

Nordstrom has agreed to buy its portion of the building in a deal valued at more than $300 million. But if the company spent two decades looking for the right site, it will have to wait until 2018 to move in, the executives said.

Another win for Barnett....:tup:

yankeesfan1000 Jun 27, 2012 1:14 PM

That's certainly good news, and I'd have to imagine if Nordstrom signed this deal then this tower can't be more than 4-5 years away.

Onn Jun 27, 2012 3:09 PM


Originally Posted by yankeesfan1000 (Post 5748231)
That's certainly good news, and I'd have to imagine if Nordstrom signed this deal then this tower can't be more than 4-5 years away.

More like probably not more than one or two years. Great news, that's exactly the kind of store that area needs!

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