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toxteth o'grady Aug 12, 2014 3:29 AM

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Originally Posted by toxteth o'grady (Post 6687320)
Does anyone know anything about the Hanover River Oaks? Its existence is heralded by this sign, which is shown on Swamplot.

The Chronicle is reporting it's a highrise, but no other details.

Hanover planning Upper Kirby project

Urbannizer just posted this on HAIF, so who knows?

http://ww3.hdnux.com/photos/31/47/14...3/784x2048.jpg

Urbannizer Aug 12, 2014 3:51 AM

http://ww3.hdnux.com/photos/31/47/14...3/784x2048.jpg

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Originally Posted by Houston Chronicle
Developer plans Upper Kirby high-rise project

A locally based developer that builds upscale apartment towers in urban locations around Houston and across the country is planning its newest project in the Upper Kirby area, potentially adding more than 300 units to a site along Kirby Drive.

Details are still being completed, but the project is expected to rise more than 30 stories and have restaurants on the ground floor, David Ott, development partner of the Houston-based Hanover Co., said late Monday.


The company is seeking approval from the city to develop the project with reduced building lines along Kirby and Kipling streets in order to allow the building to sit back farther than required along Steel Street, which is lined by a canopy of decades-old live oak trees.

The company's intention, Ott said, is to do "everything possible to save the trees."

"We're going to set back further than is required on Steel to give the existing tree canopy as much room as possible to survive," he said.

The high-rise is being planned for land that houses two retail buildings and an older apartment complex. A portion of the apartment complex is not part of Hanover's project.

The tower will sit just off Kirby on the western side of the property, with a retail building fronting Kirby and creating a pedestrian plaza between the two structures. Ground-floor retail will be in both buildings.

Hanover, which is under contract on the 1.65-acre property, is scheduled to close early next year and begin construction in the summer of 2015, Ott said.

Full Article: http://www.houstonchronicle.com/busi...ct-5682548.php


cloud713 Aug 12, 2014 4:23 AM

more renderings from the article.. i count ~38 stories.

http://ww1.hdnux.com/photos/31/47/14...5/333x2048.jpg

http://ww4.hdnux.com/photos/31/47/14...5/333x2048.jpg

Monarch Aug 12, 2014 5:02 AM


TexasPlaya Aug 12, 2014 6:45 AM

Wow, love the project but with the remaining monetary incentives for downtown residential, I'm surprised this type of project went on Kirby Dr. I realize there is a highrise a few blocks down, but still....

toxteth o'grady Aug 12, 2014 5:37 PM

Prosperity Hospitality Group is hinting to BisNow that they plan to build a hotel at Beltway 8 at I-10 on the site of a former PetSmart. No word on how tall or when:

https://ci6.googleusercontent.com/pr...Fwy-medium.jpg

There is also mention in BisNow of Building 9 at Research Forest Lakeside, which is currently under design up in the Woodlands. No word on why they skipped Buildings 6 through 8, but 9 will be 136,000 sf, which sounds like a 6-level building.

Urbannizer Aug 12, 2014 5:42 PM

Larger renderings of Hanover River Oaks

http://swamplot.com/wp-content/uploa...-render-se.jpg

http://swamplot.com/wp-content/uploa...-render-ne.jpg

http://swamplot.com/wp-content/uploa...-render-sw.jpg

classic2eb Aug 12, 2014 6:30 PM

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Originally Posted by toxteth o'grady (Post 6688463)
Prosperity Hospitality Group is hinting to BisNow that they plan to build a hotel at Beltway 8 at I-10 on the site of a former PetSmart. No word on how tall or when:

https://ci6.googleusercontent.com/pr...Fwy-medium.jpg

There is also mention in BisNow of Building 9 at Research Forest Lakeside, which is currently under design up in the Woodlands. No word on why they skipped Buildings 6 through 8, but 9 will be 136,000 sf, which sounds like a 6-level building.

Toxeth - The picture you show (south of Katy Fwy) went with the news blurb under that picture in their newsletter...

"Maple Multi Family Land TX purchased 25k SF of land at 10615 Katy Fwy. Coldwell Banker’s David Hummel and Vince Elder repped the seller."

The land that Prosperity Hospitality Group bought is just across that property on the north side of Katy Freeway.

Former Petsmart site location

classic2eb Aug 12, 2014 7:09 PM

Oops...I had the name wrong. It's Prospera Hospitality Group.

HoustonHorns Aug 12, 2014 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TexasPlaya (Post 6688000)
Wow, love the project but with the remaining monetary incentives for downtown residential, I'm surprised this type of project went on Kirby Dr. I realize there is a highrise a few blocks down, but still....

I know, it doesn't really make much sense to me either, but apparently Houstonians like high-rise amenities without the urban environment. Hopefully that mentality changes so we can start seeing some condo towers downtown.

cloud713 Aug 12, 2014 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by HoustonHorns (Post 6688893)
I know, it doesn't really make much sense to me either, but apparently Houstonians like high-rise amenities without the urban environment. Hopefully that mentality changes so we can start seeing some condo towers downtown.

Upper Kirby isn't urban enough for you?

HoustonHorns Aug 12, 2014 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by cloud713 (Post 6688944)
Upper Kirby isn't urban enough for you?

No

https://www.google.com/maps/@29.7404...qiKvP0TQsg!2e0

AustinTay Aug 13, 2014 1:19 AM

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Originally Posted by HoustonHorns (Post 6688970)

Yeah, that's Houston. You'll find that pretty much everywhere. Downtown is still lacking some essentials for many people and it's not really that urban despite the skyscrapers.

Urbannizer Aug 13, 2014 3:04 AM

http://ww1.hdnux.com/photos/31/50/20...3/784x2048.jpg

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Originally Posted by Houston Chronicle
Plan calls for hotel to perch atop new building

One of the organizations charged with bringing visitors to Houston would like to have some of them really close. Like, upstairs.

Houston First Corp. on Tuesday announced it would begin taking proposals from developers for a hotel to be built atop its planned new headquarters in the building it will share with other Houston-focused organizations.


Exact plans will be left to whoever gets the contract, but a conceptual rendering released Tuesday shows a sleek glass-and-steel addition that would place about 400 hotel rooms above the recently announced office building that will be home base for Houston First, the Greater Houston Partnership, the Greater Houston Convention & Visitors Bureau and the Center for Houston's Future.

The 15-story hotel would sit on top of the planned Greater Houston Partnership Building and 1,900-space parking garage directly behind it and be directly north of the George R. Brown Convention Center.

Full Article: http://www.houstonchronicle.com/busi...er-5684968.php


HoustonHorns Aug 13, 2014 3:08 AM

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Originally Posted by AustinTay (Post 6689052)
Yeah, that's Houston. You'll find that pretty much everywhere. Downtown is still lacking some essentials for many people and it's not really that urban despite the skyscrapers.

You're right! Downtown isn't very urban, but Downtown/Midtown are still by far the most urban areas in Houston.

toxteth o'grady Aug 13, 2014 3:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Urbannizer (Post 6689145)

Well, after a quite few weeks, some significant projects have popped out of the woodwork.

And with the base for the tower crane having shown up at the site of the Marriott Marquis, we have yet another project going up.:tup:

Clev Aug 13, 2014 3:18 AM

I really like this design. The area around Minute Maid Park should be filling up nicely in the next couple of years.

TexasBoi Aug 13, 2014 3:24 AM

Will this new hotel have a brand and if so, any idea on which brand will operate this hotel?

Also, any updates on Hotel Alessandra?

Monarch Aug 13, 2014 4:24 AM

although, it is only a conceptual rendering.. this news is indeed splendid!

Urbannizer Aug 13, 2014 4:26 AM

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Originally Posted by toxteth o'grady (Post 6689152)
Well, after a quite few weeks, some significant projects have popped out of the woodwork.

And with the base for the tower crane having shown up at the site of the Marriott Marquis, we have yet another project going up.:tup:

Yes, things are heating up! Here's another new project!

The Cosmopolitan of Houston

http://www.realtexdevelopment.com/po...an-of-houston/
  • Under Development
  • Block 166
  • 204 Units

http://www.realtexdevelopment.com/wp...66-480x300.png

Clev Aug 13, 2014 5:19 AM

It's good seeing downtown getting more residential.

HoustonHorns Aug 13, 2014 6:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Urbannizer (Post 6689145)

Wow. I like the design. I also wonder what hotel brand this will be.

AustinTay Aug 13, 2014 3:39 PM

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Originally Posted by HoustonHorns (Post 6689149)
You're right! Downtown isn't very urban, but Downtown/Midtown are still by far the most urban areas in Houston.

By far? That's reaching a bit considering downtown is still pretty desolate and Midtown is still too underdeveloped in many areas. In a few years it will be the most urban area by far though; the foundation is already set with skyscrapers, mid and low-rise mf buildings. The area just needs to fill out more but one has to wonder why developers have not been building high-rises in Midtown. I'm sure there is a logistical reason.

Either way it's not hard to understand why someone would choose to live in a high-rise in River Oaks over Midtown/downtown. Personally, I would want to be in the core of the city but not everyone in this suburban city is pro-urban.

toxteth o'grady Aug 14, 2014 2:59 PM

Today's BisNow was a rundown on projects happening Downtown. They have been mentioned as the developer of a 39-story apartment tower near the convention center that was previously posted. There is another Trammell Crow project going in south of the Ballpark:

"...Trammell Crow Residential (3) is also hoping to break ground this quarter on a six-story, 267-unit multifamily community. It will deliver in Q1 ’17..."

https://ci6.googleusercontent.com/pr...een-medium.jpg

This project is south of the Marquette, so I'm not sure it's associated with the other midrise that's supposed to be to the east.

toxteth o'grady Aug 14, 2014 7:22 PM

So is the New Woodlands too expensive?

Did Howard Hughes pay too much for its new master-planned community?

toxteth o'grady Aug 15, 2014 3:03 AM

Reality - what a concept! The theory behind a Chinese developer's plans for a $300 million Pearland development called the Ivy District.

Pearland mixed-use development awaits city approval

http://ww3.hdnux.com/photos/31/52/42...5/784x2048.jpg

http://blog.chron.com/primeproperty/...ster-plan1.jpg

Shasta Aug 15, 2014 6:19 AM

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Originally Posted by AustinTay (Post 6689609)
By far? That's reaching a bit considering downtown is still pretty desolate and Midtown is still too underdeveloped in many areas. In a few years it will be the most urban area by far though; the foundation is already set with skyscrapers, mid and low-rise mf buildings. The area just needs to fill out more but one has to wonder why developers have not been building high-rises in Midtown. I'm sure there is a logistical reason.

Either way it's not hard to understand why someone would choose to live in a high-rise in River Oaks over Midtown/downtown. Personally, I would want to be in the core of the city but not everyone in this suburban city is pro-urban.

Because developers are in it to make money.

Downtown Austin works because of the Lake, proximity to UT and there are no other places to put up a true high rise in Austin.

In Houston, there are PROVEN areas for a residential high rise to work; mainly Uptown, River Oaks, Allen Parkway, Greenway Plaza/Upper Kirby, Hermann Park/Med Center. Downtown was an unknown until Finger Cos. opened One Park Place and it has proven to be highly successful. Sky House just opened. There's a race to get out of the ground by 4 other proposed residential high rises downtown. There's one rumored high rise for midtown but it'll be the first and therefore a risky proposition. It's hard to get lending with risk.

toxteth o'grady Aug 15, 2014 3:39 PM

Is anyone familiar with the Hamilton Apartments? HBJ has a building permit listed for 1800 St. Joseph Parkway, which puts it right at the NW corner of I-45 and I-69 downtown. This is apartments on top of a garage structure. Permit is almost $15 million.

Urbannizer Aug 15, 2014 11:02 PM

2100 Taft: New 6-story mid-rise.

http://www.miradorgroup.com/2100-taft-gallery/

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5567/...e1cd197c_b.jpg

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3890/...51a577ef_b.jpg

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3901/...5aecdbc8_b.jpg

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5561/...f276ee31_b.jpg

2110 Mason

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5572/...2fb4824e_b.jpg

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5588/...464ac4e2_b.jpg

Urbannizer Aug 15, 2014 11:11 PM

New design for 3615 Montrose; Spring 2015 start date.

http://blog.chron.com/primeproperty/...8/MONTROSE.jpg

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Originally Posted by Chron
Condos Planned for Montrose Site

A developer planning an 8-story condominium building on what longtime Houstonians may remember as the River Cafe site on Montrose requested a variance from the city so it can build the structure closer to the street.

This is at least the third such request made this week from a developer planning a large-scale residential project in the area. Read about the first here and the second here.

The Montrose project is proposed for the northeast corner of Montrose and Marshall across from the Parc IV & V condominium towers. The developer is listed as Montrose & Marshall LLC on the variance, which apparently isn’t the first that’s been submitted to the city for the project.

Groundbreaking is planned for the spring of 2015.

http://blog.chron.com/primeproperty/...montrose-site/


toxteth o'grady Aug 18, 2014 1:07 PM

New design? I don't even remember the old design.

Okay, this is the Taft...

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3901/...5aecdbc8_b.jpg

And this is the Mason...

https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5572/...2fb4824e_b.jpg

What's the difference?

(Actually, since they're right around the corner from each other, it makes a little bit of sense...)

toxteth o'grady Aug 18, 2014 7:31 PM

The Southmore, re-rendered (from Swamplot):

http://swamplot.com/wp-content/uploa...endering-2.jpg

http://swamplot.com/wp-content/uploa...endering-1.jpg

Demolition is almost done on the block where this is going up.

Monarch Aug 18, 2014 8:50 PM

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Originally Posted by toxteth o'grady (Post 6695925)
The Southmore, re-rendered (from Swamplot):

http://swamplot.com/wp-content/uploa...endering-2.jpg

http://swamplot.com/wp-content/uploa...endering-1.jpg

Demolition is almost done on the block where this is going up.

simply gorgeous! well done.

toxteth o'grady Aug 20, 2014 1:19 PM

The Houston office market, by the numbers:

Avison Young report

It should be noted that much like the county-by-county depiction of the vote in presidential elections, looks can be deceiving, as the biggest tracts have some of the smallest inventories of office space. But 6 million square feet of office space absorption in two quarters is phenomenal:

http://htmlimg2.scribdassets.com/6z4...522e13234f.png

http://htmlimg1.scribdassets.com/6z4...167220812b.png

toxteth o'grady Aug 20, 2014 4:21 PM

Where the demand for office space downtown is coming from...

San Francisco energy company about to open Houston office and La Porte site

toxteth o'grady Aug 20, 2014 7:27 PM

This could be a big deal. UT is going to open an engineering college in Houston. I'm not sure about the size or scope, other than they might graduate 2,000 engineers a year once they hit their stride. For an undegraduate campus, that would be 8,000 students, and that does not include grad students.

UT plans Houston energy engineering institute

TexasCreed Aug 20, 2014 9:00 PM

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Originally Posted by toxteth o'grady (Post 6698945)
This could be a big deal. UT is going to open an engineering college in Houston. I'm not sure about the size or scope, other than they might graduate 2,000 engineers a year once they hit their stride. For an undegraduate campus, that would be 8,000 students, and that does not include grad students.

UT plans Houston energy engineering institute

It's highly doubtful that their goal of graduating 2,000 more students a year in engineering would all come from a new Houston branch. More likely most UT system schools will continue their expansion of engineering departments. It's also strange that this would be an expansion of UT and not a new sister school in the University of Texas system. I would really like some clarification on that.

Good engineering schools are the toughest to build. Although partnerships with local businesses are great I still feel like University of Houston and Rice would have a large edge for a very long time in the local market. It's most likely that we will see modest effort by the UT system to move into the Houston market.

toxteth o'grady Aug 20, 2014 11:37 PM

That said, UT Dallas started from nothing in the mid-'80s and quickly ramped up to have one of the largest student enrollments in the state. Houston has a desperate need for engineers to serve the oil and gas industry, so a lot of those UT engineers will find they're in demand.

And for reference, St. Thomas has an entire student body population of 2,000.

Shasta Aug 21, 2014 2:20 AM

Sorry, but UT's plan is stupid. If they have that much money sitting around, then they need to spend it on making other system schools better.

Rice, UH, and A&M are not going to like this one bit. The reason there's an engineering glut isn't due to higher education, but rather our high schools aren't producing enough qualified students in the first place.

ATM likes to consider itself a Houston-area school. It would be easier for folks in Bridgeland to commute to ATM than UH these days.

Also, Schlumberger recently gave UH its old headquarters. UH turned it in to an Energy Research Park. It started new engineering programs and has landed tons of corporate money. This smells like UT is chasing the money rather than doing what is in the best interest of the State.

toxteth o'grady Aug 22, 2014 2:38 AM

I'm not sure why HBJ is a week behind the Chron with the news about the Ivy District, but it goes to Pearland City Council on August 25.

Details revealed for mixed-use project in Pearland

They're also just now waking up to the news about the Micro Center development, also known as the Shoppes at Uptown:

Wal-Mart, another hotel to come to the Galleria area

toxteth o'grady Aug 22, 2014 4:13 AM

Meanwhile, an indication that the party is not winding down anytime soon...

Houston energy hiring far exceeds past two years

toxteth o'grady Aug 22, 2014 6:47 PM

The Texas Medical Center is planning to open a business accelerator in the old Nabisco plant. The building was previously refurbished, so I'm not sure if any additional work will be done on it.

Texas Medical Center to open 'country's largest' life-sciences accelerator

Meanwhile, Dynegy, which is downtown, is expanding its business

Dynegy acquires Duke assets, others for $6.25 billion

toxteth o'grady Aug 22, 2014 7:36 PM

This week's HBJ has a quick summary of projects in Fort Bend County. Memorial Hermann's expansion is mentioned, as is Methodist's $131 million capital improvement program and Nalco Champion's new offices. Also mentioned is a new campus for Fluor (I believe the project was mentioned in this thread as long as a year ago, but there are only sketchy details). It's still early days, but a campus with as much as 1 million sf of space will be built on 50 acres at 59 and University Boulevard, so this is a biggie.

toxteth o'grady Aug 23, 2014 4:04 AM

Can Houston build 21,000 apartments a year?

Demand for Houston apartments is at an all-time high

toxteth o'grady Aug 25, 2014 5:41 PM

They can, but it's getting more expensive, as demand and costs for construction workers goes up.

In building boom, construction workers gain the upper hand

toxteth o'grady Aug 28, 2014 12:08 AM

A parcel changes hands at Lakes on Post Oak, presumably for a highrise residential building. Buyer is rumored to be Trammell Crow.

New multifamily project to rise in Galleria area

toxteth o'grady Aug 28, 2014 12:10 AM

Yet another office development out west.

West Belt submarket continues to grow with another groundbreaking

http://blog.chron.com/primeproperty/...ng-236x236.jpg

xbryanisbeastx Aug 28, 2014 1:31 AM

http://www.onlykaty.com/the-grand-ne...-open-in-2012/

Weird and it right next to katy mills

shakman Aug 28, 2014 1:37 AM

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Originally Posted by xbryanisbeastx (Post 6708405)
http://www.onlykaty.com/the-grand-ne...-open-in-2012/

Weird and it right next to katy mills

The article is from 2009. Any recent info on this development? I am hoping something which has a similar retail concept, with less asphalt, will replace this proposal.

toxteth o'grady Aug 28, 2014 3:19 AM

Houston has caught the attention of Al Jazeera.

Immigrants reshape Houston, America’s most diverse metropolis


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